EE Tina/Tosh: Trevor and Litlle MO Abuse storyline?
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I think Tina will be abuse by Tosh. similarly to Trevor and Little Mo.
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Domestic abuse in a same sex relationship seems pretty original to me, more so than the Shirley and Mick storyline.
I think that was the backstory (and why Shirley disliked her immediately when she came in) but I missed Tina's entrance.
After Tina made excuses for the cut on her head, Stan said: 'I've had enough experience of all that, to know the excuses, ashamed of myself for it, but, still..." - anyone know what he meant by that?
I took it to mean he used to abuse his partner/wife and so knew all the excuses she'd use
I think they will get together eventually.
Oh wow, I never thought of it like that, I always thought that she was the abusive one (well the psychically abusive one), not Stan!
Tina isn't anything like Lil Mo either. While Mo was naïve she wasn't some stupid simpleton. Mo just had a timid personality which made her the ideal case as an abuse victim.
I actually dislike Tosh a lot. I can handle Tina and I do think her and Sonia would be pretty good together so I hope this Tosh thing isn't going to dragged out forever.
Tosh bought it on herself with her controlling ways, she may as well pushed Tina into Sonia's arms last night, no sympathy at all.
Eventually would like Sonia to smack Tosh down and end up with Tina.
Yes I noticed that too, which annoyed me.
BIB That would be good.
The fact she is still essentially a child makes Tosh's manipulation and abuse even more sinister. That scene last night where Tina felt the urge to apologies for having been hurt sent chills down my spine. It's an obvious sign that an abuse story is about to begin. I also think pregnant Tosh being the abuser would be an interesting twist, and it's the first lesbian domestic abuse story that I can think of.
As for Stan, I think it's definitely being implied that he hit or abused Sylvie. My guess is that although he hit Sylvie when he was drunk, Sylvie took out her hurt and anger on Shirley, and that's why Shirley hates him so much. I don't think Stan is going to be an outright child abuser, but I think Sylvie may well be the ultimate villain - perhaps she was unable to have another child, so adopted Mick, but when Shirley tried to drown Mick (so as to prevent her abusing him), Sylvie left, and never came back.
The fact that Shirley was almost certainly abused, the implied horrors Mick went through in care, Dean's implied gang rapes in prison, and Lee's clear Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder mean that Tina is the last innocent of the adults, and she's finally going to have that innocence stripped from her. And when Ben returns, poor, pretty little Johnny is going to have his innocence taken as well.
Oh, and this story is already doing the impossible - making me like Sonia a little bit, and considering Nat Cassidy is staying indefinitely, that can only be a good thing!
I did have a lot of sympathy for Tosh last week - I thought they were doing a good job of building her up, and I thought when Tosh said 'she gives as good as she gets' that we might have seen a twist and it was just an extremely unhealthy, mutually violent relationship which would have been new, interesting and difficult to watch in its own way, but I think it's been set back and pretty clearly just a short-term plot device so I don't imagine it's going to really shock anyone how it shakes out.
What?!!
Are you sure that's not just DS talk? I remember Dean sharing a scene with Chelsea or Shirley where he said ''everything'' after being asked what happened in prison but I thought that was as far as the conversation went?
Don't get me started on that, while I'm pleased Sonia is back I wish they had come up with a better storyline to explain Martin's absence than this.
However I am able to remember all the crap Sonia put Martin through in the 00s. He was a saint for putting up with her as long as he did. So if he is out playing the field now its only what she did to him. That's how I view it.
I just don't understand why they didn't have them broken up before bringing her back instead of doing this character assassination on him. It doesn't make any sense. Again though - just another plot device in this stupid Sonia/Tina relationship that we're supposed to buy into.
I agree, I think this storyline is already taking an interesting route. I was getting bored of Tina/Tosh but now i'm intrigued.
Obviously Tosh manipulated Tina into believing it was her fault, but I was shocked when Tina actually apologised and Tosh offered her 'forgiveness'.
I was thinking, perhaps, Stan might have been alluding to the abuse Shirley suffered from Sylvie, maybe she tried to excuse her mothers behavior much the same as how Tina is excusing Tosh's? Also, I think Sylvie left prior to the bath incident. (I do hope that gets explained in more detail.)
Dean's implied gang rape? When did that happen? I know something went down when he was in prison but I figured that it was more physical violence, from what he had said?
I never thought I would see the day but, I too, am warming to Sonia.
I think the writing has been very good so far
Cant stand the character of tina/tosh.