Weren't the onboard laps normally included in the DVD version? Does this mean that the DVD version actually has no extras?
2011 Review: DVD had no extras at all, but the full review, the Blu-Ray had the full review plus all the extras.
2012 Review: The DVD had all the extras but cut out parts of the review. The Blu-ray had all the extras plus the entire review, including the bits cut out of the DVD editon
2013 Review: Looks like the DVD will have the complete review, but misses out SOME of the extras (onboard laps & driver profiles). The Blu-Ray should have everything.
It's all to do with space reasons, as there's only so much a DVD will hold compared to the Blu-Ray.
I suspect FOM are tinkering with finding a balance with the DVD release. IMO the onboards & driver profles are the least "exclusive" of the extras, so I don't mind them being blu-ray only. DVDs are 15years old anyway, so I always get the blu-ray.
Regarding Jake's comments about F1 needing to go to BT to 'innovate', surly there is only so much that can be done pre and post race. Basically what the BBC and Sky are doing is not much different from what ITV did in its latter years. Ok, different people etc but how much more could you squeeze out of the coverage?
I think there's very little that could be done innovation-wise on a linear platform. Indeed, with just two sports channels, and no red button service, BT would quite likely offer less than we get with Sky at the moment.
What BT could do (and may yet do in years to come) is to take advantage of the fact that the majority of their audience are BT Broadband customers, and offer enhanced coverage over IP (kinda like a Red Button on steroids, or that Zume app). But for F1 or whoever to take notice, they'll need to demonstrate this kind of a service with the sports they have at the moment.
I think there's very little that could be done innovation-wise on a linear platform. Indeed, with just two sports channels, and no red button service, BT would quite likely offer less than we get with Sky at the moment.
What BT could do (and may yet do in years to come) is to take advantage of the fact that the majority of their audience are BT Broadband customers, and offer enhanced coverage over IP (kinda like a Red Button on steroids, or that Zume app). But for F1 or whoever to take notice, they'll need to demonstrate this kind of a service with the sports they have at the moment.
BT actually have 3 channels; BTS1, BTS2 & ESPN.
In reality there is little else that can be improved on, as everything that can be shown is, and the extra features are available.
Sure they have no red button, but personally I don't like using the extra features this way, I prefer to use them on a secondary device so I can have the main coverage on the TV.
They have an online player already, so that could be used for the extra streams, just as Sky do.
As for Jake's comments, he is just doing exactly what he did whilst he was at the beeb, "bigging them up".
Jake is a PR departments dream, he just does the online PR stuff so well.
Now we have the confirmed race calendar for 2014, when will we get confirmation of the live BBC races? As the season is 19 races, will the BBC have 9 or 10 live broadcasts?
I really hope they go for Brazil in their first 3 picks, then I guess Sky would gobble up Canada, Monaco and Austin. So don't be surprised to see the BBC getting Australia (for a change).
Not much to say on BBC's efforts, Gary is brilliant as usual, we love and hate EJ in equal measure as usual, DC is.. well, DC. James and Ben have been doing great work, but i would probably give it James in the end for having carry the commentary almost single handedly. Less said about Legard the better.
Suzi... erm, i dunno, yet to be convinced tbh.
Sky started as they ended last year, lads holiday. Once it was obvious to all that the championships was over, they seemed to give up on all that and suddenly things improved markedly.
Ted needs no further adulation, Pinks had a strong second half, but still short of Georgie's talents.
Production wise, FOM had a poor year. Dont know whats going on, maybe new people have come in and its taking time to get up to speed. Sky need to stop trialling VT's every 2mins and showing half of the feature in the process. BBC solid as ever, although ive watched little this year on the beeb and the picture quality seemed suffer once they got the Americas.
Improvements for next year. Chandhok in for Ant, rumour has it that he wont be around next year. and prise Buxton from his NBC contract. Better online facilitys, Race control is ok, but the online version is a poor imitation of the broadcast version and picture quality needs a bump.
Sky have removed access to USTV Now on their NowTV/Roku box which has upset my American friend who watches the sports including F1 there. But he has Plex, so he's ok until that gets blocked too..... he'll just have to buy a proper Roku if that happens.....
The BBC will never show Australia live for as long as Sky have coverage. The 1st race of the season for some reason always gets low viewing figures and being on at bonkers o'clock doesn't help.
I would expect, as an odd season in the Sky/BBC arrangement (so Sky selects 1st) that China would be a Sky exclusive, forcing the BBC to have Bahrain live for the 1st time in the arrangement. As suggested by someone elsewhere, Belgium might be a Sky exclusive for the 1st time.
Bahrain on BBC would make sense, it's a night race next year so starting time will be at around the same time as the brazilian GP usually starts I think.
BBC should leave all the early morning races to Sky. Highlights in the afternoon for those races, and just show most european and races in prime time live.
Bahrain on BBC would make sense, it's a night race next year so starting time will be at around the same time as the brazilian GP usually starts I think.
BBC should leave all the early morning races to Sky. Highlights in the afternoon for those races, and just show most european and races in prime time live.
It's not as simple as that though. Sky aren't stupid, they will gobble up a) the prime time races first then b) the European TZ races in between the BBC picks.
The BBC will never show Australia live for as long as Sky have coverage. The 1st race of the season for some reason always gets low viewing figures and being on at bonkers o'clock doesn't help.
I would expect, as an odd season in the Sky/BBC arrangement (so Sky selects 1st) that China would be a Sky exclusive, forcing the BBC to have Bahrain live for the 1st time in the arrangement. As suggested by someone elsewhere, Belgium might be a Sky exclusive for the 1st time.
Sky doesn't pick first.
BBC always gets first three picks. Sky gets picks 4-6, then they alternate.
Sky doesn't pick first.
BBC always gets first three picks. Sky gets picks 4-6, then they alternate.
Not true. Sky had 1st picks in 2012 and BBC had the 1st picks in 2013. Notionally that means Sky goes 1st for 2014 and therefore the BBC live races will be the boring non-classics.
Not true. Sky had 1st picks in 2012 and BBC had the 1st picks in 2013. Notionally that means Sky goes 1st for 2014 and therefore the BBC live races will be the boring non-classics.
Probably an unpopular viewpoint but I think if the BBC have a system in place whereby they only have half the races live then they've got a duty to work out ways to rotate things so that they show them all live over a cycle of a few seasons, unpopular race/time or not.
I can understand Britain's got to be pretty much a constant live but efforts should be made such that everything else should get its turn.
Yes Australia's a weird time but they shouldn't always be only joining in with live coverage at the third or fourth event etc.
Probably an unpopular viewpoint but I think if the BBC have a system in place whereby they only have half the races live then they've got a duty to work out ways to rotate things so that they show them all live over a cycle of a few seasons, unpopular race/time or not.
I can understand Britain's got to be pretty much a constant live but efforts should be made such that everything else should get its turn.
Yes Australia's a weird time but they shouldn't always be only joining in with live coverage at the third or fourth event etc.
I think they will rotate the lesser races but the first 6 picks are automatic. Also don't forget Sky or BBC can't have 3 in a row which starts to limit the choices quite quickly on both sides.
I'll go:
BBC: Britain, Abby Dhabi, Brazil
At this point Sky HAVE to have Austin, I'm not sure whether they would leave this to the end or not? If they are clever and able to they would.
Sky: Canada, Austin, Monaco
BBC: Spa
Sky: Russia
BBC: Singapore
Sky: Monza
BBC: Australia
Sky: Germany
BBC: Austria
Sky: Malaysia
BBC: Spain
Sky: Japan
BBC: China
Sky: Bahrain, Hungary
Or the BBC could pick Austin instead of Brazil, otherwise Sky can leave Austin until the end giving them a "head start" on the better picks.
Wouldn't Sky likely have picked Silverstone and Monaco if they'd had first picks in 2012? As it was the BBC had them live.
Before the dividing up the BBC expressed that they wanted Monaco and Britain to be live as they are F1 heritage races plus the final race of the season.
Then for 2013 they changed their minds about Monaco in favour of Italy.
It's practically guaranteed - 2014 BBC live F1 races will be "the rubbish ones".
Before the dividing up the BBC expressed that they wanted Monaco and Britain to be live as they are F1 heritage races plus the final race of the season.
Then for 2013 they changed their minds about Monaco in favour of Italy.
It's practically guaranteed - 2014 BBC live F1 races will be "the rubbish ones".
No, they specifically said the British GP and the final race, they didn't guarantee Monaco.
Before the dividing up the BBC expressed that they wanted Monaco and Britain to be live as they are F1 heritage races plus the final race of the season.
Then for 2013 they changed their minds about Monaco in favour of Italy.
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2011 Review: DVD had no extras at all, but the full review, the Blu-Ray had the full review plus all the extras.
2012 Review: The DVD had all the extras but cut out parts of the review. The Blu-ray had all the extras plus the entire review, including the bits cut out of the DVD editon
2013 Review: Looks like the DVD will have the complete review, but misses out SOME of the extras (onboard laps & driver profiles). The Blu-Ray should have everything.
It's all to do with space reasons, as there's only so much a DVD will hold compared to the Blu-Ray.
I suspect FOM are tinkering with finding a balance with the DVD release. IMO the onboards & driver profles are the least "exclusive" of the extras, so I don't mind them being blu-ray only. DVDs are 15years old anyway, so I always get the blu-ray.
I think there's very little that could be done innovation-wise on a linear platform. Indeed, with just two sports channels, and no red button service, BT would quite likely offer less than we get with Sky at the moment.
What BT could do (and may yet do in years to come) is to take advantage of the fact that the majority of their audience are BT Broadband customers, and offer enhanced coverage over IP (kinda like a Red Button on steroids, or that Zume app). But for F1 or whoever to take notice, they'll need to demonstrate this kind of a service with the sports they have at the moment.
In reality there is little else that can be improved on, as everything that can be shown is, and the extra features are available.
Sure they have no red button, but personally I don't like using the extra features this way, I prefer to use them on a secondary device so I can have the main coverage on the TV.
They have an online player already, so that could be used for the extra streams, just as Sky do.
As for Jake's comments, he is just doing exactly what he did whilst he was at the beeb, "bigging them up".
Jake is a PR departments dream, he just does the online PR stuff so well.
Its a bit better now they have tweaked the colours to better separate comment boxes visually.
Better or worse, it hasnt brought any new functionality, so dont see the point.
Not much to say on BBC's efforts, Gary is brilliant as usual, we love and hate EJ in equal measure as usual, DC is.. well, DC. James and Ben have been doing great work, but i would probably give it James in the end for having carry the commentary almost single handedly. Less said about Legard the better.
Suzi... erm, i dunno, yet to be convinced tbh.
Sky started as they ended last year, lads holiday. Once it was obvious to all that the championships was over, they seemed to give up on all that and suddenly things improved markedly.
Ted needs no further adulation, Pinks had a strong second half, but still short of Georgie's talents.
Production wise, FOM had a poor year. Dont know whats going on, maybe new people have come in and its taking time to get up to speed. Sky need to stop trialling VT's every 2mins and showing half of the feature in the process. BBC solid as ever, although ive watched little this year on the beeb and the picture quality seemed suffer once they got the Americas.
Improvements for next year. Chandhok in for Ant, rumour has it that he wont be around next year. and prise Buxton from his NBC contract. Better online facilitys, Race control is ok, but the online version is a poor imitation of the broadcast version and picture quality needs a bump.
I would expect, as an odd season in the Sky/BBC arrangement (so Sky selects 1st) that China would be a Sky exclusive, forcing the BBC to have Bahrain live for the 1st time in the arrangement. As suggested by someone elsewhere, Belgium might be a Sky exclusive for the 1st time.
BBC should leave all the early morning races to Sky. Highlights in the afternoon for those races, and just show most european and races in prime time live.
It's not as simple as that though. Sky aren't stupid, they will gobble up a) the prime time races first then b) the European TZ races in between the BBC picks.
Sky doesn't pick first.
BBC always gets first three picks. Sky gets picks 4-6, then they alternate.
Not true. Sky had 1st picks in 2012 and BBC had the 1st picks in 2013. Notionally that means Sky goes 1st for 2014 and therefore the BBC live races will be the boring non-classics.
Wouldn't Sky likely have picked Silverstone and Monaco if they'd had first picks in 2012? As it was the BBC had them live.
Incorrect, in all cases.
I can understand Britain's got to be pretty much a constant live but efforts should be made such that everything else should get its turn.
Yes Australia's a weird time but they shouldn't always be only joining in with live coverage at the third or fourth event etc.
I think they will rotate the lesser races but the first 6 picks are automatic. Also don't forget Sky or BBC can't have 3 in a row which starts to limit the choices quite quickly on both sides.
I'll go:
BBC: Britain, Abby Dhabi, Brazil
At this point Sky HAVE to have Austin, I'm not sure whether they would leave this to the end or not? If they are clever and able to they would.
Sky: Canada, Austin, Monaco
BBC: Spa
Sky: Russia
BBC: Singapore
Sky: Monza
BBC: Australia
Sky: Germany
BBC: Austria
Sky: Malaysia
BBC: Spain
Sky: Japan
BBC: China
Sky: Bahrain, Hungary
Or the BBC could pick Austin instead of Brazil, otherwise Sky can leave Austin until the end giving them a "head start" on the better picks.
Before the dividing up the BBC expressed that they wanted Monaco and Britain to be live as they are F1 heritage races plus the final race of the season.
Then for 2013 they changed their minds about Monaco in favour of Italy.
It's practically guaranteed - 2014 BBC live F1 races will be "the rubbish ones".
No, they specifically said the British GP and the final race, they didn't guarantee Monaco.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9550930.stm
Canada, surely?