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What are the UK's immigration limits???
Dannyboy1978uk
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With Europe getting bigger and other countries joining the free movement in europe I was wondering what limit the lefties think the UK should accept. Plenty of lefties are pro Bulgaria and Romania joining and alowing as many or little to leave for countries like the UK.
At what point do we say enough!!!!
At what point do we say enough!!!!
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What's a leftie?
Somebody old like Dennis Skinner.
Hold on!!!!! What will happen when all the new lot get old and retire !!
I've got it!! Get more immigrants !
It's worked for the United States for the past 200 years.
Has it worked? Have you not seen the amount of poverty and debt the US have??
The USA is economically and militarily the #1 nation on the planet. We used to occupy that spot, once. So yes, I'd say it has worked. Yes, there are downsides but that is true of any country and the USA does things differently to us (and individual states do some things differently to one another, so it doesn't pay to generalise too far).
Left-handed people?
"We"? Never. We are not a gestalt entity with one unified mind. People will always have different opinions - some will think (and say) that enough is enough already, others will simply not care or not consider the situation to be a significant problem, or indeed a problem at all.
Ok Mithy73. What is your personal opinion on the imigration limit that will benifit this country and for future generations!!!
It is only economically and militarily number 1 because it spends so much money on the military and if you look it is not going to be the number 1 economy for much longer. Also it does not have many of the public services we have such as the NHS and they still have the largest debt in the world.
thats a shock, the lefties can only say we need immigration but fail to give a limit or acknowledge the downsides
See below.
I've already given you a hint. Allow me to put it more plainly.
The answer is that the question is ridiculous: there is no nice, neat, simple figure that one can pluck out of the air and say "this is the maximum population this island shall have".
There are many factors that influence both population capacity and a desirable population density, and it's not the same answer for everyone or in all times. Some people love the urban life, so population densities in the mid-hundreds per square kilometer are right up their alley. Some people love the quiet rural life, so population densities in single or double digits per square kilometer are more their cup of tea. And capacity has grown with technological advancement. A century ago this island could probably not have sustained today's population levels.
The UK and France spend similar proportions of their GDP on defence, as I recall.
Nothing lasts forever.
The NHS? That would be "the sixty-year mistake" as that darling of the rabid Right put it?
So? People with bigger incomes have bigger mortgages...
That's a shock, another judgemental generalisation, written a whole six minutes after the preceding post on a quiet Saturday morning before anyone else had a chance to respond.
Are countries being physically added to the continent of Europe or are some European countries growing in geographical size ? Or something else ?
What is the difference between a country which is 'larger' than another and a country which is 'massively larger' than another ?
Look, ADD boy, you don't need to bump a thread that's only ten minutes old.
And Mithy73 I asked your personal opinion!!!!
I was sarcastically saying no one can give an answer, or at least a personal point of view. Of coarse people will have different opinions, what is yours !!!!
I've given it. My personal opinion is that there isn't a figure you can pluck out of thin air and declare to be a hard limit. Population capacity isn't a fixed value. Nor is demand. There's also not a one-size-fits-all answer; different cities, counties and regions have different degrees of pressure on them. What might work for London may not do so for Bristol or Edinburgh or Leeds.
Mithy73 I'll make it easy for you!
Do you think 200 million is to many for the UK ????
No you won't. You'll try to make it easier for yourself by framing the debate on your own terms. Sorry, but I am not obliged to play that game.
It's a meaningless question. Like I said, population capacity is not a fixed value, and is dependent on a large number of variables. Roughly a third of the UK's population is concentrated in London and the South East, if memory serves. And the population is not going to increase to 200 million overnight, or very probably at all.