Immediately after his speech I posted that he'll get a few days as the 'new Winston Churchill' .........the saviour of the nation !
Then the campaigning and in-fighting within the Tory party will start in a week or two
Basically all he's done is fired the starting gun................at the moment all the Tory MPs cheer him, but they're cheering him for firing the starting gun not because they want him to win the race
I think the wider public are not really going to buy this from Cameron either. I remember the public's scepticism in 2001 when the Tories tried to capitalise on the fuel duty blockades and promised a 6p reduction in fuel duty if they won the 2001 election, actually they didn't seem to believe it and I think they will be of the same view again. Especially if Ed Miliband/Labour start reminding people of Cameron's "cast iron guarantee" of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Something he said in the run up to the last General election but failed to deliver on. :rolleyes:
Cameron has basically done the same stupid thing that Blair did on Europe and promised a referendum on Europe that he almost certainly cannot do if it means him losing or us leaving The EU etc.
I think the wider public are not really going to buy this from Cameron either. I remember the public's scepticism in 2001 when the Tories tried to capitalise on the fuel duty blockades and promised a 6p reduction in fuel duty if they won the 2001 election, actually they didn't seem to believe it and I think they will be of the same view again. Especially if Ed Miliband/Labour start reminding people of Cameron's "cast iron guarantee" of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Something he said in the run up to the last General election but failed to deliver on. :rolleyes:
Cameron has basically done the same stupid thing that Blair did on Europe and promised a referendum on Europe that he almost certainly cannot do if it means him losing or us leaving The EU etc.
Whats the civil service got to do with Tory back benchers pressing Cameron on what powers he's going to try and get back from The EU?
Because they will be needed to explore and review the Treaty and advise on what changes are possible. That is why there is a timetable. If Cameron wins in 2015 the ground work will be done and then the referendum will be held.
Because they will be needed to explore and review the Treaty and advise on what changes are possible. That is why there is a timetable. If Cameron wins in 2015 the ground work will be done and then the referendum will be held.
And you think that will stop Tory MP's pressing Cameron about this in parliament? Never has done before.
And you think that will stop Tory MP's pressing Cameron about this in parliament? Never has done before.
He has explained the timetable and the conditions. Everyone knows about them at least those that took the trouble to listen to Cameron's speech do. Presumably you didn't. Otherwise you wouldn't be asking pointless questions.
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The civil service can only work on government business and it is a coalition government.
I think the wider public are not really going to buy this from Cameron either. I remember the public's scepticism in 2001 when the Tories tried to capitalise on the fuel duty blockades and promised a 6p reduction in fuel duty if they won the 2001 election, actually they didn't seem to believe it and I think they will be of the same view again. Especially if Ed Miliband/Labour start reminding people of Cameron's "cast iron guarantee" of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Something he said in the run up to the last General election but failed to deliver on. :rolleyes:
Cameron has basically done the same stupid thing that Blair did on Europe and promised a referendum on Europe that he almost certainly cannot do if it means him losing or us leaving The EU etc.
And I don't. May is in one of the most senior cabinet posts, Home Secretary.
Whats the civil service got to do with Tory back benchers pressing Cameron on what powers he's going to try and get back from The EU?
Cameron will campaign for and expects a Yes vote.
Because they will be needed to explore and review the Treaty and advise on what changes are possible. That is why there is a timetable. If Cameron wins in 2015 the ground work will be done and then the referendum will be held.
But May is in Government for the first time, where Thatcher had already been in Government at an earlier age before becoming PM.
I still don't agree with you.
And you think that will stop Tory MP's pressing Cameron about this in parliament? Never has done before.
Then he can't expect to gain the votes he needs and wants then?
Possibly. There's also the question of whether May would want it.
He has explained the timetable and the conditions. Everyone knows about them at least those that took the trouble to listen to Cameron's speech do. Presumably you didn't. Otherwise you wouldn't be asking pointless questions.