your blind mate, yes I know people fast all the time, hey look at Muslims they fast all the time and all the ones I know are pretty fat.
if you're referring to Ramadan, then they don't necessarily reduce their calorie intake during the month, they just eat at different times of the day from "normal".
your blind mate, yes I know people fast all the time, hey look at Muslims they fast all the time and all the ones I know are pretty fat.
Made me laugh. All the Muslims I know are pretty slim!
I was actually referring to the practice of "fasting" on Fridays, which was prevalent in Christian circles; fasting here meaning reduced calorie intake. I don't think Ramadan would count, for the reasons given by Kenny T.
The fact that calorie reduction is a factor in longevity has been known for some time, this programme gave reasons why the scientists think it works, i.e. the growth hormone. Of course, they could be wrong - new things are being discovered all the time - but if it does work, that's all I need to try it out.
your blind mate, yes I know people fast all the time, hey look at Muslims they fast all the time and all the ones I know are pretty fat.
Mulims fast during the month of Ramadam not "all the time" and they do not abstain from food during that period they eat at different times of the day to normal
Well, I'm half-way through my first fasting day and I'm feeling a bit peckish (everyone has gone off to the canteen and they have some delicious-sounding puddings on the menu today!).
I decided to have my healthy snack in the evening (so I have something to look forward to) but perhaps it's better to have it in the mornings. I guess it will take a little trial and error to see what works best.
Well, I'm half-way through my first fasting day and I'm feeling a bit peckish (everyone has gone off to the canteen and they have some delicious-sounding puddings on the menu today!).
I decided to have my healthy snack in the evening (so I have something to look forward to) but perhaps it's better to have it in the mornings. I guess it will take a little trial and error to see what works best.
Good luck and stay strong! I'm going to try it as well
Well, I'm half-way through my first fasting day and I'm feeling a bit peckish (everyone has gone off to the canteen and they have some delicious-sounding puddings on the menu today!).
I decided to have my healthy snack in the evening (so I have something to look forward to) but perhaps it's better to have it in the mornings. I guess it will take a little trial and error to see what works best.
Me too and the hunger pains have finally just gone after being there all morning. The chap did say last night on the show that the hunger pains went in waves throughout the day... I think i'd rather have the calories in the evening though. I have a feeling i'd get very depressed after eating in the morning and thinking that's it for the day!:o
I think i'd rather have the calories in the evening though. I have a feeling i'd get very depressed after eating in the morning and thinking that's it for the day!:o
That was my thinking too. I think I've managed to overcome the tricky lunchtime period and I feel ok now.
To me your body is an amazing thing and if it is saying its hungry then its best to eat and not ignore that message.
I agree we should listen to our bodies, but I wonder what really triggers those 'feeling hungry' messages. Is it always due to a lack of calories or is it sometimes due to habit/routine? When they have programmes about morbidly obese people, they often comment that they feel hungry even though they have more than enough calories to last a week without eating.
That was my thinking too. I think I've managed to overcome the tricky lunchtime period and I feel ok now.
I agree we should listen to our bodies, but I wonder what really triggers those 'feeling hungry' messages. Is it always due to a lack of calories or is it sometimes due to habit/routine? When they have programmes about morbidly obese people, they often comment that they feel hungry even though they have more than enough calories to last a week without eating.
On the odd days when, for various reasons, I skip lunch, the hunger pangs last about an hour so, for me, it's often habit that determines when I eat.
That was my thinking too. I think I've managed to overcome the tricky lunchtime period and I feel ok now.
I agree we should listen to our bodies, but I wonder what really triggers those 'feeling hungry' messages. Is it always due to a lack of calories or is it sometimes due to habit/routine? When they have programmes about morbidly obese people, they often comment that they feel hungry even though they have more than enough calories to last a week without eating.
Think that is more to do with an addiction to sugar/crap food on the odd occasion I have fast food I often still feel hungary afterwards!
That was my thinking too. I think I've managed to overcome the tricky lunchtime period and I feel ok now.
I agree we should listen to our bodies, but I wonder what really triggers those 'feeling hungry' messages. Is it always due to a lack of calories or is it sometimes due to habit/routine? When they have programmes about morbidly obese people, they often comment that they feel hungry even though they have more than enough calories to last a week without eating.
You also have to consider Pavlovian conditioning exists in humans, not just dogs. If certain things happen when you eat every day over a period of weeks or months, eventually you will associate those things with eating and therefore feel hungry when they happen. Whether you actually need calories in a strict biological sense at that point is a separate issue.
Your body gets into habits, basically. Not conforming to them makes it 'panic', so you get signals you don't necessarily have to follow.
I find if I'm really busy doing something active I can get to late afternoon without even realising I've missed lunch and don't feel at all hungry.
If I'm bored, I'll be starving by 11:30 even after a late breakfast.
Anyway, we're trying the 2/7 fast.
I'm the same. I get hungry around my usual meal times, but if for some reason I can't eat at that time, the hunger goes away again without me eating anything. Like they said on the show, cavemen didn't eat three times a day, this is just a habit our bodies are programmed to accept.
It seems people are looking for a Silver Bullet rather than making proper lifestyle adjustments. Its a fad diet that will be discredited at some point or just ignored by the majority of sensible people who know how to cook, eat and exercise properly.
Enjoyed the programme and some of the arguments made sense but something did not feel right about the whole fasting thing.
To me your body is an amazing thing and if it is saying its hungry then its best to eat and not ignore that message.
Healthy regular eating and excersise keeps the motabolism working fast too which in turn will burn more calories.
You certainly don't feel like excersise if you have not eaten and it is not healthy to do so in those circumstances.
Didn't they say on the programme that stimulating the metabolism makes the body produce more of the baddie hormone?
I'll have to watch it again, I think.
In my case, eating is often habit - I eat lunch because i think it's "time" sometimes, not because I'm actually hungry. When I was young and whippet-thin I often used to forget to eat. Nowadays I tend to arrange my day round meals - just habit.
I suspect a period of fasting can help you to recognise the signals of real hunger again.
The reason the life expectancy rose in the great depression is because of an adjustment in averages, rich people got poorer and died a bit sooner - therefore raising the average age of life expectancy temporarily. Very little to with diet as such.
They did say at the end that to keep the levels down that it would have to be continued and have two fasting days every week .I am not sure that many would keep it up to be honest .
There were several ways of fasting trialled by the presenter, but the one he settled on, which seems to achieve the desired results was to fast 2 days a week. On those days he ate one meal only. (A normal meal - he chose breakfast).
Stanley Matthews used to do this, except he only fasted on on day per week, usually Monday as that didn't interfere with playing football. This was later in his career, and he said he felt much fitter afterwards, in fact able to play in the 1st division at the age of 50.
I thought Mosley had done this sort of thing a couple of times in the past. He's certainly featured a calorie restrictor on one of his programmes, but I have been meaning to try this, or go on a fruit only day, for a while too.
The reason the life expectancy rose in the great depression is because of an adjustment in averages, rich people got poorer and died a bit sooner - therefore raising the average age of life expectancy temporarily. Very little to with diet as such.
Just a bit of parity coming into effect.
Talk about smoke and mirrors.
Now this I do agree with. The statement that people lived longer during the depression means nothing. It all depends on how the statistics are collated.
The people who didn't die of starvation lived longer?
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Made me laugh. All the Muslims I know are pretty slim!
I was actually referring to the practice of "fasting" on Fridays, which was prevalent in Christian circles; fasting here meaning reduced calorie intake. I don't think Ramadan would count, for the reasons given by Kenny T.
The fact that calorie reduction is a factor in longevity has been known for some time, this programme gave reasons why the scientists think it works, i.e. the growth hormone. Of course, they could be wrong - new things are being discovered all the time - but if it does work, that's all I need to try it out.
If it's not your thing, fine!
Mulims fast during the month of Ramadam not "all the time" and they do not abstain from food during that period they eat at different times of the day to normal
I decided to have my healthy snack in the evening (so I have something to look forward to) but perhaps it's better to have it in the mornings. I guess it will take a little trial and error to see what works best.
Good luck and stay strong!
Me too and the hunger pains have finally just gone after being there all morning. The chap did say last night on the show that the hunger pains went in waves throughout the day... I think i'd rather have the calories in the evening though. I have a feeling i'd get very depressed after eating in the morning and thinking that's it for the day!:o
To me your body is an amazing thing and if it is saying its hungry then its best to eat and not ignore that message.
Healthy regular eating and excersise keeps the motabolism working fast too which in turn will burn more calories.
You certainly don't feel like excersise if you have not eaten and it is not healthy to do so in those circumstances.
I agree we should listen to our bodies, but I wonder what really triggers those 'feeling hungry' messages. Is it always due to a lack of calories or is it sometimes due to habit/routine? When they have programmes about morbidly obese people, they often comment that they feel hungry even though they have more than enough calories to last a week without eating.
K
Think that is more to do with an addiction to sugar/crap food on the odd occasion I have fast food I often still feel hungary afterwards!
Your body gets into habits, basically. Not conforming to them makes it 'panic', so you get signals you don't necessarily have to follow.
I find if I'm really busy doing something active I can get to late afternoon without even realising I've missed lunch and don't feel at all hungry.
If I'm bored, I'll be starving by 11:30 even after a late breakfast.
Anyway, we're trying the 2/7 fast.
I'm the same. I get hungry around my usual meal times, but if for some reason I can't eat at that time, the hunger goes away again without me eating anything. Like they said on the show, cavemen didn't eat three times a day, this is just a habit our bodies are programmed to accept.
Didn't they say on the programme that stimulating the metabolism makes the body produce more of the baddie hormone?
I'll have to watch it again, I think.
In my case, eating is often habit - I eat lunch because i think it's "time" sometimes, not because I'm actually hungry. When I was young and whippet-thin I often used to forget to eat. Nowadays I tend to arrange my day round meals - just habit.
I suspect a period of fasting can help you to recognise the signals of real hunger again.
Just a bit of parity coming into effect.
Talk about smoke and mirrors.
You're repeating yourself - an early symptom of dementia. Maybe you should try it
I thought Mosley had done this sort of thing a couple of times in the past. He's certainly featured a calorie restrictor on one of his programmes, but I have been meaning to try this, or go on a fruit only day, for a while too.
I'll have to watch this and see how it's done.
Now this I do agree with. The statement that people lived longer during the depression means nothing. It all depends on how the statistics are collated.
The people who didn't die of starvation lived longer?