Number 23 Cromwell Terrace was demolished along with number 25. The act of demolishing properties where notorius murders have taken place is actually a recent thing.
I think that was also demolished because the house was excavated quite extensively and it was owned by the killerrs. Who was going to repair it?
It would not bother me to know that a previous owner of my house committed dreadful crimes in the rooms I now live in. The walls are simply bricks and mortar. They didn't kill anybody, the person that once lived there did. But now he is gone and I can redecorate and make that place a happy house.
What would annoy me would be the gawkers who come to look through the windows, or the deranged individuals who would look upon the property as some sort of "shrine."
It is one of the more perverse aspects of human nature that some people like to attach all sorts of bizarre personal meaning to places where bad deeds took place, as if they feel some sort of connection to it all. Why would they do that..?
It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that some awful crime may have been committed on the ground where my house now stands. A hundred years ago, perhaps....? Two hundred....? three....? It doesn't make the place "evil" and because there is no record or living knowledge of whatever may (or may not as the case may be) have taken place there, all that is seen now is a little semi detached property on a gentle hill that leads down to the sea.
It would not bother me to know that a previous owner of my house committed dreadful crimes in the rooms I now live in. The walls are simply bricks and mortar. They didn't kill anybody, the person that once lived there did. But now he is gone and I can redecorate and make that place a happy house.
What would annoy me would be the gawkers who come to look through the windows, or the deranged individuals who would look upon the property as some sort of "shrine."
It is one of the more perverse aspects of human nature that some people like to attach all sorts of bizarre personal meaning to places where bad deeds took place, as if they feel some sort of connection to it all. Why would they do that..?
It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that some awful crime may have been committed on the ground where my house now stands. A hundred years ago, perhaps....? Two hundred....? three....? It doesn't make the place "evil" and because there is no record or living knowledge of whatever may (or may not as the case may be) have taken place there, all that is seen now is a little semi detached property on a gentle hill that leads down to the sea.
What's not to like about that..?
I agree look at all these former Workhouses that have been converted into luxury appartments. We know that life in a Workhouse was tough but no doubt other horrors took place in those buildings. However it's not put people off buying flats in them.
No I wouldn't fancy it. All those men garrotted, dismembered. Heads boiled on his cooker etc.
Although he did murder the majority of his victims at his address in Melrose Avenue, Cricklewood. I think he killed three or four at Cranley Gardens, and possibly another ten or twelve at Melrose Avenue.
It's not quite serial killer but the person who used to live in my flat hung himself in what is now my bedroom cupboard. It wasn't mentioned when I was offered the flat but I knew anyway as I previously lived across the road. It didn't really bother me though. I felt sorry for the guy obviously but someone was going to have to move in so it might as well have been me.
No I wouldn't fancy it. All those men garrotted, dismembered. Heads boiled on his cooker etc.
Although he did murder the majority of his victims at his address in Melrose Avenue, Cricklewood. I think he killed three or four at Cranley Gardens, and possibly another ten or twelve at Melrose Avenue.
Yeah, the majority where at Melrose Avenue. My mate sold the flat after his arrest etc. IIRC, it was bought by a developer, refurbed and then put back on market, think it took an absolute age to sell as the address was very well known at the time.
Very nice bit of Muswell Hill, always liked Cranley Gardens, and not a bad price at all.
We looked round a house in Belper a couple of years back. It was a bargain, the cheapest detached we could find and so it was in our budget - which made me wonder why.
Anyway right at the end the estate agent asked if we knew the history of it...we didn't.
Turns out a guy was murdered by his own step son in the lounge - then dragged through to the dining room, chopped up, stuffed into a suitcase and then disposed off in a river the next day.
This was quite a few years ago now. There was a hole in the fence still where the suitcase was hidden over night.
Hey maybe some wouldn't be bothered - but we made a quick exit!!
As has already been mentioned, it's not the actual house it's the idiots it would attract. There's a house near me in Swansea where a girl was murdered, and for years it was constantly vandalised by idiots, even though the new owners had nothing to do with the murder. I think it's taken 15-20 years for it to be forgotten.
As has already been mentioned, it's not the actual house it's the idiots it would attract. There's a house near me in Swansea where a girl was murdered, and for years it was constantly vandalised by idiots, even though the new owners had nothing to do with the murder. I think it's taken 15-20 years for it to be forgotten.
Yeah I wonder how many time wasters the estate agents get. Just ghouls who get a kick out of being shown around a building that is linked to a crime like that.
I don't think I'd have an issue with it if the price was a bargain - which certainly seems the case here! It's a lovely flat and has been mentioned it has been completely refurbished etc. If I had the money for a deposit I would seriously consider it because of the price.
I find it a bit odd that people would avoid a property like this because of murders which happened in the 70s/80s - I would understand if the killings were recent but that is enough time passed for me to not be bothered. I would be mildly put off by the prospect of gawkers though, that is something I couldn't tolerate as I hate people loitering outside my house at the moment, and they aren't trying to see in!
As a few posters have mentioned. It's the idiots it would attract that would put me off.
Serial killers attract strange 'fans' and I can just imagine the never ending stream of weirdos wanting to visit the place their 'hero' lived. In the same way people trek off to grace land (only way more morbid).
Obviously I'm not saying thousands of people would rock up daily but I bet you'd get the odd creep or two knocking and wanting to have a look inside. And the very fact that they're a 'fan' of a serial killer would freak me out.
As previously mentioned, the house itself would not put me off. It'd be like any other house to me.
The attention it could attract would put me right off though. I live in terraced with no front garden currently, and I hate people walking passed and staring in. I had a wee ginseng ficus in my window, had to move it because people would literally come up to the window, hands up against it so they could get a right good look at it.
I would not be able to cope with extra attention a notorious house would bring.
What if Nilsen himself was to somehow escape, and head back to his old flat for one last killing spree?
As in a horror movie monster or as in the reality of the pensioner who had to immobilise people with drink and drugs before attacking them even when younger?
If it's movie Neilsin - run.
If it's real Neilson - jog
I'm not squeamish, superstitious or believe in ghosts in the slightest, so wouldn't bother me at all. It's jut a house after all and the killings were some time ago. The price tag is also
very appealing.
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I think that was also demolished because the house was excavated quite extensively and it was owned by the killerrs. Who was going to repair it?
What would annoy me would be the gawkers who come to look through the windows, or the deranged individuals who would look upon the property as some sort of "shrine."
It is one of the more perverse aspects of human nature that some people like to attach all sorts of bizarre personal meaning to places where bad deeds took place, as if they feel some sort of connection to it all. Why would they do that..?
It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that some awful crime may have been committed on the ground where my house now stands. A hundred years ago, perhaps....? Two hundred....? three....? It doesn't make the place "evil" and because there is no record or living knowledge of whatever may (or may not as the case may be) have taken place there, all that is seen now is a little semi detached property on a gentle hill that leads down to the sea.
What's not to like about that..?
I am not sure I would even like to go into that house, let alone live there.
Its a brilliant price for Muswell Hill!
Had that house still existed it would fetch a small fortune. It was in Notting Hill.
I agree look at all these former Workhouses that have been converted into luxury appartments. We know that life in a Workhouse was tough but no doubt other horrors took place in those buildings. However it's not put people off buying flats in them.
I suppose that all depends on if you believe in spirits.
Although he did murder the majority of his victims at his address in Melrose Avenue, Cricklewood. I think he killed three or four at Cranley Gardens, and possibly another ten or twelve at Melrose Avenue.
Yeah, the majority where at Melrose Avenue. My mate sold the flat after his arrest etc. IIRC, it was bought by a developer, refurbed and then put back on market, think it took an absolute age to sell as the address was very well known at the time.
Very nice bit of Muswell Hill, always liked Cranley Gardens, and not a bad price at all.
Anyway right at the end the estate agent asked if we knew the history of it...we didn't.
Turns out a guy was murdered by his own step son in the lounge - then dragged through to the dining room, chopped up, stuffed into a suitcase and then disposed off in a river the next day.
This was quite a few years ago now. There was a hole in the fence still where the suitcase was hidden over night.
Hey maybe some wouldn't be bothered - but we made a quick exit!!
Yeah I wonder how many time wasters the estate agents get. Just ghouls who get a kick out of being shown around a building that is linked to a crime like that.
I find it a bit odd that people would avoid a property like this because of murders which happened in the 70s/80s - I would understand if the killings were recent but that is enough time passed for me to not be bothered. I would be mildly put off by the prospect of gawkers though, that is something I couldn't tolerate as I hate people loitering outside my house at the moment, and they aren't trying to see in!
Serial killers attract strange 'fans' and I can just imagine the never ending stream of weirdos wanting to visit the place their 'hero' lived. In the same way people trek off to grace land (only way more morbid).
Obviously I'm not saying thousands of people would rock up daily but I bet you'd get the odd creep or two knocking and wanting to have a look inside. And the very fact that they're a 'fan' of a serial killer would freak me out.
The attention it could attract would put me right off though. I live in terraced with no front garden currently, and I hate people walking passed and staring in. I had a wee ginseng ficus in my window, had to move it because people would literally come up to the window, hands up against it so they could get a right good look at it.
I would not be able to cope with extra attention a notorious house would bring.
He would have to hire the male prostitutes first to take back there.
As in a horror movie monster or as in the reality of the pensioner who had to immobilise people with drink and drugs before attacking them even when younger?
If it's movie Neilsin - run.
If it's real Neilson - jog
very appealing.