England goakeeping situation

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  [Deleted User] Posts: 2,470

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  30/08/11 - 12:02 #2

  How about a swinging brick? This has movement and just might confuse those foriegn players who don't understand the game like wot we duz. Then we can pay the other palyers even more money so when they reach the ripe old age of thirty five they can continue living in night clubs and having *** with actresses (other sexes are available) who just want to read about in those glossy mags (then comlpain about their private lives being on display). A perfect plan init?
  PS We may even be allowed to have more that one swinging brick or even a big tiger (wanting it's din din).

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  Tribec Posts: 9,331

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  30/08/11 - 12:05 #3

  davetherave1701 wrote: »

  Ok Joe Harts no 1 but after that we are in a very poor situation.
  Robert Green ...utter crap and playing in the championship
  Scott Carson ...playing in Turkey and seemingly out of favour for England.
  David Stockdale...cant get a game for Fulham & on loan in the championship.
  Frank Fielding ...:D
  David James ...completly out of favour
  Chris Kirkland:eek: i am a better keeper than him
  
  Dosent exactly look promising if Hart gets injured does it ?
  Is this the national team future ...picking players from the championship ?

  
  The goalkeeping situation is as hot a potato as the managers job really. Most people hark back to the days of the 60's/70's and 80's when we had Banks, Shilton and Clemance in goal. 3 wonderful keepers of the highest quality not only in the English game, but world game as well. Chris Woods followed, he wasn't exactly as good as these guys, but he was still comparable any top class European goalkeeper.
  
  Once Woods vaccated the gloves for England, the position has become something of a poisoned chaliace.
  
  Seaman was OK, top European keeper, but not the best in the world.
  Robinson the press mistreated him over a couple of mistakes and blew his confidence apart.
  James has constantly made mistakes comparable to someone like Foster, but the press built him up for some reason.
  Foster is prone to the odd lapse, but the press have hammered him unlike James.
  Kirkland landed the role with the media shining spotlights in his eyes, one mistake and he was the worse ever!
  
  Unlike any other role in the team a keeper has to play more with his own confidence than anywhere else. Any mistake tends to end up with a goal against them, and the media picking holes in him. Look at the situation with De Gea at United, 3 games into his career and he's being slaughtered. Would they treat say Tom Cleverley the same had he had 3 poor games? No.
  
  Whilst we can suggest the players don't read the press I'm sure they do, and try to ignore it, but we the fans don't we the fans see the opinions of the journo's and some how they tend to pursuade the fans that someone isn't good enough. Look at how the away fans are trying to get to De Gea at OT last week. Given the time the press will turn the United fans, and that's when the keepers career is over.
  
  When it comes to goalkeepers, the media and the fans can play a huge part in making or breaking them, more so than any other position on a pitch. Keepers need time to prove themselves,but of course in the extended campaign to rid England of Cappello none of the press will give anyone a break till he goes.

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  Norman Gorman Posts: 205

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  30/08/11 - 12:20 #4

  There is not much doubt that if Hart was to get injured we would be in serious trouble.
  
  I thought Ben Foster ruling himself out in those circumstances was ludicrous. Just because he doesn't think he's got what it takes to fight Joe Hart for his place.
  
  Regarding Kirkland above, injury put paid to him more than anything. Far more brittle than a keeper can afford to be.
  
  Woods was one of two or three keepers unlucky to be hampered by Shilton's longevity. By the time Shilton packed up Woods had perhaps passed his best.

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