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Helen tonight! "Dont give them any info"

brad_regbrad_reg Posts: 346
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Wtf?

Firstly, Christopher asks what he has missed... And what was said about the by the evicted HMs... Then Steven says "basically Chris it was between me and you.."- where did he get that from?

Then Helen rushes inside and begs the PHMs to not tell Christopher, Pav or Zoe anything?

Why the hell is this going down?

Now we have Pav sitting there upset wondering what the heck he has done wrong and Mark refusing to tell him... Imho Pav hasn't done any wrong to anyone in there but he is getting dissed by everyone and now ignored in the house simply because of Mark twisting things...

Matthew said on twitter "i cant be responsible for mark twisting my words"...

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  • muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    I thought she just asked them not to give details to Christopher, she didn't mention not telling Zoe or Pav did she?

    She didn't want Christopher going around telling everybody else, which I suppose effectively meant that she didn't want Pav and Zoe knowing lol

    Seems they still all think Christopher goes around repeating stuff, much as everybody has said throughout the show, cause Chris, Mark and Ashleigh all agreed with Helen.
  • FusionFuryFusionFury Posts: 14,121
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    Christopher seems a **** stirrer.
  • SegaGamerSegaGamer Posts: 29,074
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    The way they treated Christopher annoyed me most. Ever since Pauline started on him these HM's have never trusted him.

    Helen has always had problem with Christopher for some reason but Chris and Ashleigh shown us what disloyal people they are. A pair of backstabbers, i'm not surprised though, they have been doing it all series. The pair of them are gutless.
  • Jimbob91Jimbob91 Posts: 679
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    Most of the housemates would know anyway as Ashleigh and Chris already knew, and Mark told a load of people in the bedroom. Assuming they tell Pav and Zoe so that they can actually defend themselves, that just leaves Winston and Christopher. So are they worried about Christopher blabbing to Winston? Very strange thing to say...
  • trevor tigertrevor tiger Posts: 37,996
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    muggins14 wrote: »
    I thought she just asked them not to give details to Christopher, she didn't mention not telling Zoe or Pav did she?

    She didn't want Christopher going around telling everybody else, which I suppose effectively meant that she didn't want Pav and Zoe knowing lol

    Seems they still all think Christopher goes around repeating stuff, much as everybody has said throughout the show, cause Chris, Mark and Ashleigh all agreed with Helen.

    Well you've just said it. She didn't want Christopher telling Zoe and Pav but why :confused:

    I suppose isolating and alienating them is much better when they haven't a clue why. It just makes Christopher sound like the only decent grown up in there and makes ALL of the rest look like absolute shits >:(
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,525
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    Tell who? All 3 PHMs know. Mark told Helen, Ash and Steven.

    Ashleigh and Chris told Winston, Zoe, Pav and I'm sure Christopher was there too....a little bit of what was said.

    So Why? What does Helen think Christopher will do...makes no sense .... other than Helen once again is forcing her opinion and hms are following...why shouldn't they all know.:confused:
  • big brother 9big brother 9 Posts: 18,153
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    I took that because she was fearfully of her past coming up
  • muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    trevor tiger wrote: »
    Well you've just said it. She didn't want Christopher telling Zoe and Pav but why :confused:

    I suppose isolating and alienating them is much better when they haven't a clue why. It just makes Christopher sound like the only decent grown up in there and makes ALL of the rest look like absolute shits >:(
    I do wonder think Helen's reasons for not wanting Pav and Zoe to know (power) are different from the PHMs (at least Chris and Ashleigh), which I think it that they don't want to hurt their feelings.

    But I also said elsewhere
    I have to wonder whether there wasn't just an element of relief involved for Chris, Ashleigh and Mark, they probably thought Helen was going to go off on one and instead was quiet and calm, they were probably in a state of shock and just relieved she wasn't having a go at them :-D

    I also think that, as some people have said above, Chris and Ashleigh especially already showed their loyalty to Christopher by not nominating him, although not once did they seem to consider him for PHM either. It is possible to be friends with a person and still understand that there are aspects or two to their personality that may not be perfect. I can only imagine that Christopher doesn't like ALL aspects of Chris or Ashleigh's personalities either, but likes them overall.

    With regard to Mark, he's under some kind of spell unfortunately.
  • Oracles_eyeOracles_eye Posts: 2,696
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    FusionFury wrote: »
    Christopher seems a **** stirrer.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH,

    And the others don't?

    He just likes info he has a journalistic edge to him after all.
  • trevor tigertrevor tiger Posts: 37,996
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    big brother 9 wrote: »
    I took that because she was fearfully of her past coming up

    What :confused: Do you think she was ordering them never to speak at all ever again just in case :D

    I think I know what it was about. Steven said something a but mad and incorrect about it being between him and Christopher. Christopher was a bit taken aback with this as it didn't match what he'd been told and was probably a bit hurtful as Steven was nominated first. I think Helen did it so Christopher wouldn't be able to find out the truth. It would cover Steven's lie and unnerve Christopher and maybe cause a bit of a rift in the other 'gang' :cool:
  • brad_regbrad_reg Posts: 346
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    That's the bit i don't understand...
    Why did Steven say it was between him and Christopher?
    Then Christopher says well that doesn't match what they said to me...
    Then Helen runs off and tells the others to say nothing to Christopher...
  • RemmaRemma Posts: 4,132
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    trevor tiger wrote: »
    What :confused: Do you think she was ordering them never to speak at all ever again just in case :D

    I think I know what it was about. Steven said something a but mad and incorrect about it being between him and Christopher. Christopher was a bit taken aback with this as it didn't match what he'd been told and was probably a bit hurtful as Steven was nominated first. I think Helen did it so Christopher wouldn't be able to find out the truth. It would cover Steven's lie and unnerve Christopher and maybe cause a bit of a rift in the other 'gang' :cool:

    Good point. She still seems pissed that Christopher didn't invite her to his party when she was nice to him for a whole evening (forget being a bitch all the rest of the time.) She hates that he might get even a little bit of positive reinforcement, wanting to keep him as isolated from the rest of the HM's as possible.
  • Rikki65Rikki65 Posts: 8,449
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    brad_reg wrote: »
    Wtf?

    Firstly, Christopher asks what he has missed... And what was said about the by the evicted HMs... Then Steven says "basically Chris it was between me and you.."- where did he get that from?

    Then Helen rushes inside and begs the PHMs to not tell Christopher, Pav or Zoe anything?

    Why the hell is this going down?

    Now we have Pav sitting there upset wondering what the heck he has done wrong and Mark refusing to tell him... Imho Pav hasn't done any wrong to anyone in there but he is getting dissed by everyone and now ignored in the house simply because of Mark twisting things...

    Matthew said on twitter "i cant be responsible for mark twisting my words"...


    I said this yesterday.
  • icefallicefall Posts: 7,709
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    I don't know why she did that but I don't like it.
  • Dr.FeverDr.Fever Posts: 459
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    1. She is a bitch.
    2. She thinks she rules the house and loves to tell others what to do.
    3. She hates Christopher.
    4. same as '1'
  • zazayazazaya Posts: 627
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    Jimbob91 wrote: »
    Most of the housemates would know anyway as Ashleigh and Chris already knew, and Mark told a load of people in the bedroom. Assuming they tell Pav and Zoe so that they can actually defend themselves, that just leaves Winston and Christopher. So are they worried about Christopher blabbing to Winston? Very strange thing to say...

    But Helen knows too, she was told by Mark. Now she has persuaded them not to tell anyone else. What a cunning piece of work the honest Helen is turning out to be!
  • zelda fanzelda fan Posts: 6,330
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    That was horrible because basically he was left being the only one who knows nothing.>:(
  • What a shamblesWhat a shambles Posts: 3,045
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    She was merely re-asserting her dominance over her lapdogs.
  • What a shamblesWhat a shambles Posts: 3,045
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    ...they edited out the bit where she sprayed all over their bedding.
  • cahcah Posts: 24,689
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    They'd just been told by Matthew and Danielle ,that Pav and Zoe were snakes in the grass and not to trust them and for some reason the H/MS Believe all they were told

    So of course Helen didn't want them to know they were onto them ,and Chris agreed ,She said don't tell Christmas ,because from what a lot of them have said in there is Christopher seems to repeat/Blurt out what he's been told ,so they didn't want the news they were on to them so to speak getting back to Pav and Zoe
  • AlrightmateAlrightmate Posts: 73,120
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    brad_reg wrote: »
    Wtf?

    Firstly, Christopher asks what he has missed... And what was said about the by the evicted HMs... Then Steven says "basically Chris it was between me and you.."- where did he get that from?

    Then Helen rushes inside and begs the PHMs to not tell Christopher, Pav or Zoe anything?

    Why the hell is this going down?

    Now we have Pav sitting there upset wondering what the heck he has done wrong and Mark refusing to tell him... Imho Pav hasn't done any wrong to anyone in there but he is getting dissed by everyone and now ignored in the house simply because of Mark twisting things...

    Matthew said on twitter "i cant be responsible for mark twisting my words"...

    The bit I've highlighted in bold is possibly the key information.

    If Steven has told Christopher that it was between himself and Christopher who was going to be nominated, then that gives Helen ammunition to use later. Helen can leave it just like that hanging in the air. She can turn Christopher against his friends by reminding him of what Steven told him, that they were thinking of nominating Christopher.

    This is what it looks like to me if it was Steven telling Christopher that it was between himself and Christopher which was the moment where Helen immediately reacted.

    Edit: I've just noticed that trevor tiger posted along the same lines as me.
  • diesels hummindiesels hummin Posts: 7,589
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    trevor tiger wrote: »
    What :confused: Do you think she was ordering them never to speak at all ever again just in case :D

    I think I know what it was about. Steven said something a but mad and incorrect about it being between him and Christopher. Christopher was a bit taken aback with this as it didn't match what he'd been told and was probably a bit hurtful as Steven was nominated first. I think Helen did it so Christopher wouldn't be able to find out the truth. It would cover Steven's lie and unnerve Christopher and maybe cause a bit of a rift in the other 'gang' :cool:

    I think you could be right. What a scheming **** she is.
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