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Will gay people have the full equality it has taken centuries to fight for next year?

Jon RossJon Ross Posts: 3,322
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When the gay marriages start next year, will gay people have full equality in the UK at long last, or is there still more work to be done?

What do you think?
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    I've no idea, but I dare say this forum will be awash with God knows how many threads about it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,396
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    I really hope so... It should have happened a long time ago. It never should have been something to debate.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,589
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    Jon Ross wrote: »
    When the gay marriages start next year, will gay people have full equality in the UK at long last, or is there still more work to be done?

    What do you think?

    It depends what is next on the LGBT agenda.
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    davidmcndavidmcn Posts: 12,111
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    It'll remove one of the last significant discrepancies in the law, but that's hardly the same as achieving actual equality in society.

    And it won't be full equality throughout the UK until they get round to it in Northern Ireland anyway (I'm assuming there'll be no problems getting same sex marriage voted through in Scotland later this year).
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    peroquilperoquil Posts: 1,526
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    slyfox51 wrote: »
    It depends what is next on the LGBT agenda.

    Same sex partners in mixed-doubles at Wimbledon.
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    Well, the bill prohibits marriages in Church of England churches, doesn't it, so it's not really full equality. I don't know what the position is on non-C of E places of worship. as opposed to registry offices. Do they have to permit marriage, or is it optional?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Considering it will be explicitly illegal in the Churches of England and Wales, there will be no equality next year.

    I won't even venture into the hypocrisy of those many times married, serial "bastards" etc under their belts.

    It's a step forward, as was Civil Pertnerships (how ****ing patronising) but it is not far enough!
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    dantealigieridantealigieri Posts: 56
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    Digital spy forum is all about gay people
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    TeddybleadsTeddybleads Posts: 6,814
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    slyfox51 wrote: »
    It depends what is next on the LGBT agenda.



    Preferential parking at supermarkets. The Gay Bay is coming.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Digital spy forum is all about gay people

    On benefits blad blah blah...
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    slyfox51 wrote: »
    It depends what is next on the LGBT agenda.


    A new queen on postage stamps.
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    FMKKFMKK Posts: 32,074
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    Equality in law is certainly coming closer but socially, it's still a pretty long way off.
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    jesayajesaya Posts: 35,597
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    slyfox51 wrote: »
    It depends what is next on the LGBT agenda.

    Well there is more work to be done here and elsewhere in the world because there are still those who seem to revel in causing misery to other human beings simply because they happen to be attracted to members of their own sex.
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    PootmatootPootmatoot Posts: 15,640
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    In 20 years, the majority of the anti-gay folk will be dead... so by then it'll just be like racism today: just the odd idiot and your grandma.
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    Pootmatoot wrote: »
    In 20 years, the majority of the anti-gay folk will be dead... so by then it'll just be like racism today: just the odd idiot and your grandma.

    People said exactly the same thing 20 years ago.

    I also seem to recall mention of flying cars.
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    PootmatootPootmatoot Posts: 15,640
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    Flat Matt wrote: »
    People said exactly the same thing 20 years ago.

    I also seem to recall mention of flying cars.


    It's not really the same. The majority of people under 35 have no issue with gay people outside the highly religious - who are few and far between. There are some, but no more than there are still the odd racist person.

    As that group ages and those above die, average opinions change.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,589
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    Preferential parking at supermarkets. The Gay Bay is coming.

    You would need the whole car park for Blackpool then.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    I was not aware that gay people had been fighting for centuries for equality. Untill 60 years ago almost all were keeping their head down and who can blame them.

    Rapid progress has been made in the past 60 years and I am certain that we will have full gay marriage very soon.
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    ishinaishina Posts: 4,255
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    Digital spy forum is all about gay people
    Except for the rest of the 1,828,300 threads that are not all about gay people.
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    designer84designer84 Posts: 12,087
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    Well it's a step forward but we are ahead in terms of equality compared to Russia or most African countries. I'd like to think something will be done about the anti gay bill in Russia and I hope that homosexuality will be decriminalised soon.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,589
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    ishina wrote: »
    Except for the rest of the 1,828,300 threads that are not all about gay people.

    Is this the first ever thread on DS about gays?
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    ishinaishina Posts: 4,255
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    slyfox51 wrote: »
    Is this the first ever thread on DS about gays?
    Yes... yes, this is the first ever thread on DS about gays.
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    Pootmatoot wrote: »
    It's not really the same. The majority of people under 35 have no issue with gay people outside the highly religious - who are few and far between. There are some, but no more than there are still the odd racist person.

    As that group ages and those above die, average opinions change.

    I admire your optimism, but I know plenty of people, particularly men, under the age of 35 who don't like gay people. The same can be said of people who are somewhat racist.

    Only yesterday a 20-year-old at work referred to going to the "p a k i shop" and several others I encountered in the evening were talking of voting for the BNP because they are "sick of Muslims" etc etc.

    The media like to portray us all as terribly PC, but the reality is quite different. Things have definitely changed over the past 20 years, but there's an awful long way to go.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,396
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    Flat Matt wrote: »
    I admire your optimism, but I know plenty of people, particularly men, under the age of 35 who don't like gay people. The same can be said of people who are somewhat racist.

    Only yesterday a 20-year-old at work referred to going to the "p a k i shop" and several others I encountered in the evening were talking of voting for the BNP because they are "sick of Muslims" etc etc.

    The media like to portray us all as terribly PC, but the reality is quite different. Things have definitely changed over the past 20 years, but there's an awful long way to go.

    Sadly this is true. It's not just the majority of the older generation.
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    Sadly this is true. It's not just the majority of the older generation.

    That's an extremely ageist remark, and I take grave offence at it.

    The 'majority of the older generation' are probably the least prejudiced group of people you could find. They know what the important things in life are (things like "how do I not die for another day?") and don't give a damn what other people get up to, so long as it doesn't affect their own lives.
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