I disagree fundamentally. He is an excellent actor - which is utterly irrelevant.
He has demonstrated himself to be a very intelligent man who has given this whole matter a lot of deep thought and has had the balls to stand up against the abuses of the Press.
He has also vocalised his views in a very impressive and competent way, better than many others on the scene.
I think he was treated far harsher than these pompous editors.
And by the way it is the Editors who have been demonstrated to have behaved in an appalling, illegal, abusive and exploitative way. It is their responsibilities that have been breached - not Grant's.
I believe he has done a fabulous job.
People like Grant thrive on publicity but when it turns from positive to negative because of their behaviour they blame the media who provide the publicity.
There is a market for celebrity tittle tattle and the newspapers exploit it. You can't really blame them if it helps to sell their newspapers.
Grant and his like have turned up at the Inquiry acting like outraged spinsters and have been given a respectful hearing. Editors are cross-examined as if they were on trial.
People like Grant thrive on publicity but when it turns from positive to negative because of their behaviour they blame the media who provide the publicity.
Evidence (not opinion) that Grant "thrives" on publicity, please...
Evidence (not opinion) that Grant "thrives" on publicity, please...
Oh, he's a shrinking violet is he? Shuns the first nights. Never appears in public on the arm of co-celebrities. Avoids interviews. Hates photo-ops. Refuses to look at celebrity mags in which he features.
Oh, he's a shrinking violet is he? Shuns the first nights. Never appears in public on the arm of co-celebrities. Avoids interviews. Hates photo-ops. Refuses to look at celebrity mags in which he features.
Helen Belcher, Trans Media Watch, pressure group for representation of trans- and inter-sex issues in the media.
Asked to provide definitions.
A Trans, or transgender, identifies as opposite sex to birth sex.
An Inter - physical biology has aspects of both genders.
Trans gender people added to list of who it's illegal to discriminate against by the Equalities Act 2010.
The PCC editors' code of practice committee changed its guidance on reporting of gender issues in May 2005.
She says trans people think it's a joke.
2hrs 9 mins in; Pam Surphlis (SAMM NI). Support After Murder & Manslaughter Northern Ireland, a support group.
Insensitive treatment of relatives by the press.
Journalists pretending to be relatives to get information.
This will be interesting. If she denies giving authorisation for Piers Morgan to listen to the recording then he will almost certainly be recalled. If she lies will it allow him to come clean about what happened? Morgan heavily implied he listened to a tape recording(and not a hacked voicemail) and had permission. Can someone finally nail him? But relying on Mills as your star witness is not very credible. Considering what the judge said about her in the divorce hearing
This will be interesting. If she denies giving authorisation for Piers Morgan to listen to the recording then he will almost certainly be recalled. If she lies will it allow him to come clean about what happened?
Trouble is she has absolutely no credibility. Who can possibly believe her ? even though I am 90% sure what she said on this is true.
Balancing Mills against Morgan ... mmmmmm talk about Hobson's choice ! :rolleyes:
Not sure if I my stomach could endure watching her testify and take the oath
Trouble is she has absolutely no credibility. Who can possibly believe her ? even though I am 90% sure what she said on this is true.
Balancing Mills against Morgan ... mmmmmm talk about Hobson's choice ! :rolleyes:
Not sure if I my stomach could endure watching her testify and take the oath
Hopefully Heather Mills has a friend somewhere who can tell her just to answer Jay's questions as honestly and succinctly as she can. She could reclaim a lot of lost ground if that's all she does.
Well said. A pretty decent guy who clearly doesn't court publicity outside his job.
Well I'm sorry but its impossible not to laugh. You make it sound as if Grant is a chapel going, nine to five, modest resident of suburbia.
OK, some people may like his films, and they might admire his stance against the media, but the fact is Grant is a celebrity and, as most celebrities do, has promoted that image of himself. You only have to read his witness statement to see the self-regard confirmed.
As you seem to admit, he wants the publicity surrounding his celebrity status but doesn't want to court publicity over his private activities. Unfortunately, the public who are interested in such things don't draw a line between the two, and the media, understandably, publishes both.
Well I'm sorry but its impossible not to laugh. You make it sound as if Grant is a chapel going, nine to five, modest resident of suburbia.
OK, some people may like his films, and they might admire his stance against the media, but the fact is Grant is a celebrity and, as most celebrities do, has promoted that image of himself. You only have to read his witness statement to see the self-regard confirmed.
As you seem to admit, he wants the publicity surrounding his celebrity status but doesn't want to court publicity over his private activities. Unfortunately, the public who are interested in such things don't draw a line between the two, and the media, understandably, publishes both.
Trouble is she has absolutely no credibility. Who can possibly believe her ? even though I am 90% sure what she said on this is true.
Balancing Mills against Morgan ... mmmmmm talk about Hobson's choice ! :rolleyes:
Not sure if I my stomach could endure watching her testify and take the oath
She said she didn't play the tape when Morgan listened to it, I think. The real question is did she authorise the ''leak'' in any way, shape or form(ie tell an aide to do it etc etc). It depends how forensic the questioning is of her. And if she tells the truth.(stop laughing!!):D:D
Sky News ticker says she is appearing tomorrow. Anyone have a timetable for tomorrows guests?
Hopefully Heather Mills has a friend somewhere who can tell her just to answer Jay's questions as honestly and succinctly as she can. She could reclaim a lot of lost ground if that's all she does.
I suspect I may be an optimist....
Do they have a ''Phone a friend'' option for those giving evidence?
Well I'm sorry but its impossible not to laugh. You make it sound as if Grant is a chapel going, nine to five, modest resident of suburbia.
OK, some people may like his films, and they might admire his stance against the media, but the fact is Grant is a celebrity and, as most celebrities do, has promoted that image of himself. You only have to read his witness statement to see the self-regard confirmed.
As you seem to admit, he wants the publicity surrounding his celebrity status but doesn't want to court publicity over his private activities. Unfortunately, the public who are interested in such things don't draw a line between the two, and the media, understandably, publishes both.
Thankfully that is the cynical and amoral attitude that Leveson is planning on lancing from our Press.
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People like Grant thrive on publicity but when it turns from positive to negative because of their behaviour they blame the media who provide the publicity.
There is a market for celebrity tittle tattle and the newspapers exploit it. You can't really blame them if it helps to sell their newspapers.
Grant and his like have turned up at the Inquiry acting like outraged spinsters and have been given a respectful hearing. Editors are cross-examined as if they were on trial.
Evidence (not opinion) that Grant "thrives" on publicity, please...
Apologies - may as well get it right (it is Full Fact after all)...
The session was with Willy Moy of Full Fact and Martin Moore of the Media Standards Trust.
Oh, he's a shrinking violet is he? Shuns the first nights. Never appears in public on the arm of co-celebrities. Avoids interviews. Hates photo-ops. Refuses to look at celebrity mags in which he features.
Yes I'm sure you're right.
I am right.
Witness statement of Hugh Grant to the Leveson inquiry. Myth #9.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/08/leveson-inquiry-guido-fawkes-keir-starmer
Mostly procedural stuff.
Asked to provide definitions.
A Trans, or transgender, identifies as opposite sex to birth sex.
An Inter - physical biology has aspects of both genders.
Trans gender people added to list of who it's illegal to discriminate against by the Equalities Act 2010.
The PCC editors' code of practice committee changed its guidance on reporting of gender issues in May 2005.
She says trans people think it's a joke.
Well he does seem rather pleased with himself as his witness statement confirms. A tedious rant full of self importance and self justification.
Insensitive treatment of relatives by the press.
Journalists pretending to be relatives to get information.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/heather-mills-to-give-evidence-to-leveson-inquiry-6661651.html
This will be interesting. If she denies giving authorisation for Piers Morgan to listen to the recording then he will almost certainly be recalled. If she lies will it allow him to come clean about what happened? Morgan heavily implied he listened to a tape recording(and not a hacked voicemail) and had permission. Can someone finally nail him? But relying on Mills as your star witness is not very credible. Considering what the judge said about her in the divorce hearing
PS
A reminder of what Morgan said at the enquiry about the tape recording:-
http://hackinginquiry.org/news/piers-morgan-admits-listening-to-tape-of-heather-mills-voicemail-messages/
7mins Martin Moore (Media Standards Trust), Will Moy (Full Fact).
I didn't know about the Full Fact web site - it's really good.
"the average person has one testicle, but that doesn't tell you much about people."
Well said. A pretty decent guy who clearly doesn't court publicity outside his job.
Trouble is she has absolutely no credibility. Who can possibly believe her ? even though I am 90% sure what she said on this is true.
Balancing Mills against Morgan ... mmmmmm talk about Hobson's choice ! :rolleyes:
Not sure if I my stomach could endure watching her testify and take the oath
Hopefully Heather Mills has a friend somewhere who can tell her just to answer Jay's questions as honestly and succinctly as she can. She could reclaim a lot of lost ground if that's all she does.
I suspect I may be an optimist....
Well I'm sorry but its impossible not to laugh. You make it sound as if Grant is a chapel going, nine to five, modest resident of suburbia.
OK, some people may like his films, and they might admire his stance against the media, but the fact is Grant is a celebrity and, as most celebrities do, has promoted that image of himself. You only have to read his witness statement to see the self-regard confirmed.
As you seem to admit, he wants the publicity surrounding his celebrity status but doesn't want to court publicity over his private activities. Unfortunately, the public who are interested in such things don't draw a line between the two, and the media, understandably, publishes both.
As you say, it's impossible not to laugh.
She said she didn't play the tape when Morgan listened to it, I think. The real question is did she authorise the ''leak'' in any way, shape or form(ie tell an aide to do it etc etc). It depends how forensic the questioning is of her. And if she tells the truth.(stop laughing!!):D:D
Sky News ticker says she is appearing tomorrow. Anyone have a timetable for tomorrows guests?
Do they have a ''Phone a friend'' option for those giving evidence?
Thankfully that is the cynical and amoral attitude that Leveson is planning on lancing from our Press.
Do you think so? I imagine he will decide that preventing the press from reporting celebrities' extra-mural activities will be a step too far.