Maybe Matt should take a look at Will Young's career
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I think if there is one artist who did manage to properly shake off the reality tv label and become a credible artist in his own right it is Will Young.
He didn't go around griping at the right things (iho), or trying his best to say whatever makes him sound the most credible or trying to get the right headlines (with his PR companies help) to forge the image of himself he wanted.
He did it through the music, starting off on covers and then moving onto writing his own songs and turning them into hits. He did it as well by keeping his head down, not winding people up the wrong way or starting feuds, appreciating his fans and putting in good performances.
He worked hard with his talent and let the success and credibility come to him rather than desperately try and grab it as soon as possible and cling onto it for dear life (Matt isn't doing it yet but I reckon he may go down that road).
I like Matt, he is probably my second favourite winner after Alexandra and I am not a big fan of Will Young's music but I respect his talent and achievements. Maybe if it is that important to Matt to shake off the reality tv tag he should see how Will Young did it.
What do fans think? Any Will and Matt fans here?
He didn't go around griping at the right things (iho), or trying his best to say whatever makes him sound the most credible or trying to get the right headlines (with his PR companies help) to forge the image of himself he wanted.
He did it through the music, starting off on covers and then moving onto writing his own songs and turning them into hits. He did it as well by keeping his head down, not winding people up the wrong way or starting feuds, appreciating his fans and putting in good performances.
He worked hard with his talent and let the success and credibility come to him rather than desperately try and grab it as soon as possible and cling onto it for dear life (Matt isn't doing it yet but I reckon he may go down that road).
I like Matt, he is probably my second favourite winner after Alexandra and I am not a big fan of Will Young's music but I respect his talent and achievements. Maybe if it is that important to Matt to shake off the reality tv tag he should see how Will Young did it.
What do fans think? Any Will and Matt fans here?
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The only difference I see that might hold Matt back is that Will was never employed by Syco - in fact he was taken under the wing of Simon Fuller and I think that support had a great deal to do with how well Will has done since then. Will has had very little to do with Simon Cowel during his career.
Matt just has Modest - hardly in the same league in terms of clout and support.
I agree, Wills crafted his song writing over the years - although he never gets playlisted on Radio 1 and is largely an album artist.
His next album will be very dance orientated, so will be interesting if this bucks the trend for him re radio 1 and single charts
As for Matt right now - he's in the middle of media hype post his XF win - ever word or quote re-framed for headlines, so I think it's unfair to pounce on these right now. Will had the good fortune to be whisked away for 2 weeks - shot his video in Cuba after winning PI and then came back to promote single,but IIRC is wasn't as manic as things have been for Matt, but in those days there was no FB or Twitter to post every nano word or movement - different times.
Defintely Simon Fuller has played a major role in to allowing Will to have the career he has. But i dont think the two are even in the same league, i seriously think Will Young would beat Matt Cardle in a sing off as Will picks songs perfectly and even with a bad song thats not suited to him Will is able to 'make it his own' without whinging (Abba week anyone! he was perhaps the only one that was any good!).
We'll see regarding Matt but i dont think Syco would appreciate him slagging off The Climb as they choose it as their winners song last year - very stupid me thinks! I do think he will slightly better than Brookstein, Jackson and McElderry but never the proportions of Will Young as personally Will beats Matt at any criteria you choose to compare the two with - songs, intergrity, dignity, not slagging other artists in the press, musicianship, modesty, personality, interview technique. Everything from calling his ex girlfriend a di*k to slagging Miley off slating The Climb slating the X Factor songs etc doesn't make me warm to Matt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Young_discography
Too compare Matt with Will Young is totally rediculous.Matt is probably going to be pitched as a pop rock / folk rock artist.They will be on different ends of the pop world.Think Matt can kiss his true Indie rock days goodbye (even if he was in that market anyway with his previuos bands), if he remains under $yco though.
Oh yes - new album out next year (more dance based sound after his collaboration with Groove Armada). He had plenty of successful concerts during the summer this year and has been filming a new TV series called 'Bedlam' which is due out in February. Also his cameo in an episode of 'Miss Marple' is out in January.
I think Will still has a very strong fan-base - his concerts during the summer were strongly attended (10,000 at one in particular ... Tatton Park??) and his albums still sell well.
It will be interesting to see what 'sound' Matt comes out with on the release of his album. I think the original poster was suggesting Matt might follow Will's career path rather than the type of music though.
oh please - you are comparing someone who has had 8 years in the spotlight and industry, with someone who has just come off a show and is in the full post win after-glare.
I'm a Will fan, but some of his fans do get on my wick - he's hardly a saint. If Will had a BF who sold a story on their love life to the NOTW, I hope he would call him a 'dick' too !
I like Will Young, he went through a pretentious phase but seems to have come out the other side quite well.
I am a Matt fan and I appreciate all these threads that are being created they are wonderful.
Matt wouldn't be happy with that if he was forced to go down the Will Young route.That definately won't work.Don't think Matt would do schmaltzy, MOR, slightly understated dance pop somehow.
And you seem to think Matt isn't without hearing any of his forthcoming material, why?
Matt will do what he's told to do, or walk, anyone who thinks differently is seriously out of touch with the way Simon operates. Tails don't wag the dog in Simon's world, it's his way or not at all as the previous male winners have found to their cost.
I am too:)