I made one of these alleged comments and there was absolutely no nastiness intended behind it But people can take it whichever way they like. If you don't like it the alert button is right there
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Knock yourselves out!
This is completely contradictory. You say an ''alleged comment'' which implied I accused you of saying it when there is no proof. Yet you admit to saying it. Therefore, it's not something you allegedly said, but something you DID say. And there's proof of that. Which you admit to. I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here.
This is completely contradictory. You say an ''alleged comment'' which implied I accused you of saying it when there is no proof. Yet you admit to saying it. Therefore, it's not something you allegedly said, but something you DID say. And there's proof of that. Which you admit to. I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here.
Alleged as in the manner in which it's been accused of being said!
Surely for comments to qualify as bullying the recipient at least needs to have knowledge of them having been said?
At any rate, I predict that many of the people who have a problem with nasty things being said about Gail will remain silent to/actively participate in the "**** shaming" that will be (and already has been) directed towards Jenna on this forum.
I'm pretty sure Gail's friends and family will have been reading the live thread to see what people's reaction to her was. I know I would if someone who I cared about was on BB. It's just human nature to be curious. Plus, if I was in BB, I'd be interested to know what people were saying about me as I went in. This is a really popular BB forum, so it's highly likely Gail (or at least her family and friends) will have seen the posts, or end up seeing them.
In terms of **** shaming, I can't speak for other people who are equally as disgusted as I am by the comments made about Gail, but I find ''**** shaming'' just as disgusting. I actually really admire Jenna. She's a very shrewd businesswoman, and I find it incredibly sad that any woman would be booed by a crowd purely because of her profession. I felt exactly the same when Luisa was in BB and was being attacked by posters because of the number of men she's slept with and the sex parties she participated in. You can see that from my posting history.
Alleged as in the manner in which it's been accused of being said!
I fail to see how comparing a woman who has lost all her hair to alopecia to Matt Lucas, then putting several smiley faces after it, can be seen as anything other than ridiculing her appearance (and Matt's appearance, for that matter) and laughing about it. It just comes across like ''OMG all bald people look the same LOL. Lets laugh at their lack of hair!''
I'm pretty sure Gail's friends and family will have been reading the live thread to see what people's reaction to her was. I know I would if someone who I cared about was on BB. It's just human nature to be curious. Plus, if I was in BB, I'd be interested to know what people were saying about me as I went in. This is a really popular BB forum, so it's highly likely Gail (or at least her family and friends) will have seen the posts, or end up seeing them.
In terms of **** shaming, I can't speak for other people who are equally as disgusted as I am by the comments made about Gail, but I find ''**** shaming'' just as disgusting. I actually really admire Jenna. She's a very shrewd businesswoman, and I find it incredibly sad that any woman would be booed by a crowd purely because of her profession. I felt exactly the same when Luisa was in BB and was being attacked by posters because of the number of men she's slept with and the sex parties she participated in. You can see that from my posting history.
Yeah, move over Deborah Meaden! If you'd spent half as long on all fours as Jenna has you might have earned a small fortune. ..Oh wait.
As for you being "pretty sure" that Gail's friends and family will have been following the live thread; huh?! Most of us weren't following it and we've all heard of DS, so I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that.
I fail to see how comparing a woman who has lost all her hair to alopecia to Matt Lucas, then putting several smiley faces after it, can be seen as anything other than ridiculing her appearance (and Matt's appearance, for that matter) and laughing about it. It just comes across like ''OMG all bald people look the same LOL. Lets laugh at their lack of hair!''
I just don't understand it.
You don't have to understand it.
I know I wasn't 'ridiculing' anyone but if you do and you don't like it as I and others have said, you know what you can do!
I'm pretty sure Gail's friends and family will have been reading the live thread to see what people's reaction to her was. I know I would if someone who I cared about was on BB. It's just human nature to be curious. Plus, if I was in BB, I'd be interested to know what people were saying about me as I went in. This is a really popular BB forum, so it's highly likely Gail (or at least her family and friends) will have seen the posts, or end up seeing them.
In terms of **** shaming, I can't speak for other people who are equally as disgusted as I am by the comments made about Gail, but I find ''**** shaming'' just as disgusting. I actually really admire Jenna. She's a very shrewd businesswoman, and I find it incredibly sad that any woman would be booed by a crowd purely because of her profession. I felt exactly the same when Luisa was in BB and was being attacked by posters because of the number of men she's slept with and the sex parties she participated in. You can see that from my posting history.
RuinedGirl, you are obviously a ferociously loyal person that cares passionately for 'rights'
I actually respect your passion and stance.
I think you've made your mark here by having a lot of interest in terms of feedback and visits.
I also think your drawing attention to the live thread and some highly offensive 'flippant' remarks, should be addressed rightly so.
And in gathering of all participants to investigate fully any relationship personally etc etc
Yeah, move over Deborah Meaden! If you'd spent half as long on all fours as Jenna has you might have earned a small fortune. ..Oh wait.
As for you being "pretty sure" that Gail's friends and family will have been following the live thread; huh?! Most of us weren't following it and we've all heard of DS, so I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that.
Actually, most porn stars hardly make any money. The ones who do have been able to very cleverly market themselves to a mainstream audience, and become a 'brand.' Even people who have never seen Jenna in porn films know who she is because she's become incredibly famous and well known. That takes a hell of a lot, especially years ago before all this social media. How many porn stars are famous enough to make it onto Big Brother? Hardly any, because most porn stars aren't well known at all. And they don't actually get paid much considering what they do. So it's not about spending time on all fours, as you so crudely put it. It's about being business minded and building up your brand. Which Jenna has. And I respect her for that.
As for being ''pretty sure'' that Gail's friends and family will have seen the live thread. Yes, I'm speculating. Which is why I'm only ''pretty sure.'' But, as I said. If someone who I was related to/friends with/cared about went on BB, I'd definitely look at the live thread reaction to their entrance into the BB house, just to see what people were saying about them. I'm assuming most people would if they knew someone in the BB house. I mean, we all look at threads and post in them, yet we don't even know anyone in the house.
RuinedGirl, you are obviously a ferociously loyal person that cares passionately for 'rights'
I actually respect your passion and stance.
I think you've made your mark here by having a lot of interest in terms of feedback and visits.
I also think your drawing attention to the live thread and some highly offensive 'flippant' remarks, should be addressed rightly so.
And in gathering of all participants to investigate fully any relationship personally etc etc
I appreciate and respect that post. Thank you. There are some issues which I feel have a grey area and can be interpreted in different ways. But there are also issues which I feel are very black or white, and which I feel strongly about. And I don't see anything wrong with people debating issues, so long as posters do so in a respectful, articulate way
I always speak out about things which I see as wrong, because I know if I was on the receiving end of things, I would hope people would speak out for me. Whether that's wrong or right in the grand scheme of things, I don't know. I can only speak of things in terms of my own morals. Nothing wrong with a bit of debate, though
The live thread that goes on through the show should never be taken seriously as its mostly tongue in cheek and fast flowing with many participants trying to raise a laugh (albeit unfortunately at the cost of the celeb being discussed).
I doubt seriously that any of those members actually meant any actual distress or ridicule towards Gail...but more in trying to be funny in the heat of the moment.
Time to chill out OP
Then they failed miserably. I'm glad I wasn't on here during the launch if that was the calibre of discussion.
She mentioned in her VT that she suffers from alopecia, so even if posters had no clue who she was prior to that, they at least knew afterwards what her hair loss was caused by. I find it baffling that people can be so gleefully nasty towards someone who suffers from a condition which affects their physical appearance. I'm incredibly cynical, but even I was surprised by just how nasty the comments were.
People are as gleefully nasty about Judi James who suffers from a condition (ageing) that affects her physical appearance, and no one seems to pull them up on it. So I'm not sure why Gail is supposed to be out of bounds.
This is exactly why I, despite liking Gail in everything I've seen her in, was concerned when she was rumoured to be taking part. Not just because BB is such a hostile environment within the house. But because you get nasty malicious idiots making completely unnecessarily cruel comments like we've seen on here tonight. And that will most likely continue on Twitter when she gets out, particularly if she doesn't do well in the house and is evicted early on.
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I'm surprised (and disappointed) that she's chosen to do CBB, and I hope she isn't too fragile for it; but though some of the joking remarks were in poor taste, I don't think they were malicious or meant to be cruel to her, as if said in person. I don't think it is at all likely that Gail's friends and family will have seen the live thread; I think it's very unlikely that they even know the thread exists.
People are as gleefully nasty about Judi James who suffers from a condition (ageing) that affects her physical appearance, and no one seems to pull them up on it. So I'm not sure why Gail is supposed to be out of bounds.
I'm surprised (and disappointed) that she's chosen to do CBB, and I hope she isn't too fragile for it; but though some of the joking remarks were in poor taste, I don't think they were malicious or meant to be cruel to her, as if said in person. I don't think it is at all likely that Gail's friends and family will have seen the live thread; I think it's very unlikely that they even know the thread exists.
Surely for comments to qualify as bullying the recipient at least needs to have knowledge of them having been said?
At any rate, I predict that many of the people who have a problem with nasty things being said about Gail will remain silent to/actively participate in the "**** shaming" that will be (and already has been) directed towards Jenna on this forum.
Well, I predict that the people who have a problem with 'nasty' things said about Gail and those who have a problem with things said about Jenna or Tila or Farrah will remain silent etc when we get the next of the regular rounds of things said about Judi James and how she looks.
Yes, thanks to the OP the title of this thread will echo through Google's PageRank system and out over the Interwebs. Though I'd recommend tweeting the link to Gail's Twitter account if you want to be certain her friends and family get the opportunity to be offended.
Considering DS is the most popular Big Brother forum, they're highly likely to. I really don't know if you're trolling or not. Do you think Gail's family and friends are simply watching the show without wondering in the slightest what people are saying about her?
Yes, thanks to the OP the title of this thread will echo through Google's PageRank system and out over the Interwebs. Though I'd recommend tweeting the link to Gail's Twitter account if you want to be certain her friends and family get the opportunity to be offended.
Yes, please blame me for making this thread, rather than the vile people who made the comments in the first place. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, or debating an issue, but making sarcy personal comments is completely uncalled for.
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im not even going to argue any more
so here is a picture of a flower
http://ufatum.com/data_images/flower/flower8.jpg
Or wait! We could just ignore/avoid the thread!
This is completely contradictory. You say an ''alleged comment'' which implied I accused you of saying it when there is no proof. Yet you admit to saying it. Therefore, it's not something you allegedly said, but something you DID say. And there's proof of that. Which you admit to. I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here.
Alleged as in the manner in which it's been accused of being said!
but banning changes attitudes and beliefs!!
it forces people to think like we do!
it forces people to hide their opinions so that wer never see them for the mis guided idiots they are!
;-)
I'm pretty sure Gail's friends and family will have been reading the live thread to see what people's reaction to her was. I know I would if someone who I cared about was on BB. It's just human nature to be curious. Plus, if I was in BB, I'd be interested to know what people were saying about me as I went in. This is a really popular BB forum, so it's highly likely Gail (or at least her family and friends) will have seen the posts, or end up seeing them.
In terms of **** shaming, I can't speak for other people who are equally as disgusted as I am by the comments made about Gail, but I find ''**** shaming'' just as disgusting. I actually really admire Jenna. She's a very shrewd businesswoman, and I find it incredibly sad that any woman would be booed by a crowd purely because of her profession. I felt exactly the same when Luisa was in BB and was being attacked by posters because of the number of men she's slept with and the sex parties she participated in. You can see that from my posting history.
I fail to see how comparing a woman who has lost all her hair to alopecia to Matt Lucas, then putting several smiley faces after it, can be seen as anything other than ridiculing her appearance (and Matt's appearance, for that matter) and laughing about it. It just comes across like ''OMG all bald people look the same LOL. Lets laugh at their lack of hair!''
I just don't understand it.
Yeah, move over Deborah Meaden!
As for you being "pretty sure" that Gail's friends and family will have been following the live thread; huh?!
You don't have to understand it.
I know I wasn't 'ridiculing' anyone but if you do and you don't like it as I and others have said, you know what you can do!
RuinedGirl, you are obviously a ferociously loyal person that cares passionately for 'rights'
I actually respect your passion and stance.
I think you've made your mark here by having a lot of interest in terms of feedback and visits.
I also think your drawing attention to the live thread and some highly offensive 'flippant' remarks, should be addressed rightly so.
And in gathering of all participants to investigate fully any relationship personally etc etc
Actually, most porn stars hardly make any money. The ones who do have been able to very cleverly market themselves to a mainstream audience, and become a 'brand.' Even people who have never seen Jenna in porn films know who she is because she's become incredibly famous and well known. That takes a hell of a lot, especially years ago before all this social media. How many porn stars are famous enough to make it onto Big Brother? Hardly any, because most porn stars aren't well known at all. And they don't actually get paid much considering what they do. So it's not about spending time on all fours, as you so crudely put it. It's about being business minded and building up your brand. Which Jenna has. And I respect her for that.
As for being ''pretty sure'' that Gail's friends and family will have seen the live thread. Yes, I'm speculating. Which is why I'm only ''pretty sure.'' But, as I said. If someone who I was related to/friends with/cared about went on BB, I'd definitely look at the live thread reaction to their entrance into the BB house, just to see what people were saying about them. I'm assuming most people would if they knew someone in the BB house. I mean, we all look at threads and post in them, yet we don't even know anyone in the house.
I appreciate and respect that post. Thank you. There are some issues which I feel have a grey area and can be interpreted in different ways. But there are also issues which I feel are very black or white, and which I feel strongly about. And I don't see anything wrong with people debating issues, so long as posters do so in a respectful, articulate way
I always speak out about things which I see as wrong, because I know if I was on the receiving end of things, I would hope people would speak out for me. Whether that's wrong or right in the grand scheme of things, I don't know. I can only speak of things in terms of my own morals. Nothing wrong with a bit of debate, though
Then they failed miserably. I'm glad I wasn't on here during the launch if that was the calibre of discussion.
You should at least try it sometimes to get a 'real' feel for it.
People are as gleefully nasty about Judi James who suffers from a condition (ageing) that affects her physical appearance, and no one seems to pull them up on it. So I'm not sure why Gail is supposed to be out of bounds.
I'm surprised (and disappointed) that she's chosen to do CBB, and I hope she isn't too fragile for it; but though some of the joking remarks were in poor taste, I don't think they were malicious or meant to be cruel to her, as if said in person. I don't think it is at all likely that Gail's friends and family will have seen the live thread; I think it's very unlikely that they even know the thread exists.
Until now :kitty:
Well, I predict that the people who have a problem with 'nasty' things said about Gail and those who have a problem with things said about Jenna or Tila or Farrah will remain silent etc when we get the next of the regular rounds of things said about Judi James and how she looks.
What do you mean? Do you think someone's alerted them to it?
Yes, thanks to the OP the title of this thread will echo through Google's PageRank system and out over the Interwebs.
Considering DS is the most popular Big Brother forum, they're highly likely to. I really don't know if you're trolling or not. Do you think Gail's family and friends are simply watching the show without wondering in the slightest what people are saying about her?
Yes, please blame me for making this thread, rather than the vile people who made the comments in the first place. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, or debating an issue, but making sarcy personal comments is completely uncalled for.