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Why do the media keep going on about Scottish independence?

linkinpark875linkinpark875 Posts: 29,703
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So they were seeming biased during the election now they still keep going on about it. Why don't the media get over it? Surely there's other news? I even know people who voted yes are fed up hearing about it.

For all the coverage they have given the other side a media blackout since the referendum. What about the 55% who are happy we are still part of the UK? Maybe that's boring news for them.

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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Maybe because the SNP still make it an issue and still use it as a bargaining tool, and the media therefore report it?
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    It's not really over. In order for a vote to be successful. The losing side has to accept the result. The vote was too close to be called decisive. Add to that the snp winning virtually every seat at the election and it becomes hard for those who voted yes to accept the result.
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    MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    What is the opposite of a purr?
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    BlackIvyBlackIvy Posts: 355
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    The SNP do not have any bargaining tool. They lost the referendum and with the price of oil having dropped they'd lose any second referendom.

    With the new tax and spending powers it is time for them to shut up and get on with governing rather than protesting.
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    BlackIvy wrote: »
    The SNP do not have any bargaining tool.
    They do. they have many more Westminster MPs, and a feeling that many more Scottish voters are now in favour of independence (or at least, that's the impression that they might want to portray).
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    mossy2103 wrote: »
    They do. they have many more Westminster MPs, and a feeling that many more Scottish voters are now in favour of independence (or at least, that's the impression that they might want to portray).

    It comes down to "the vow". If the snp keep pushing that Westminster hasn't and isnt delivering on the back of a **** packet promise made in the dying days of the campaign. Then a lot of Scots,who voted no, are going to feel cheated and flock to the yes side. Personified by the snp
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    VerenceVerence Posts: 104,590
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    Rafer wrote: »
    It's not really over. In order for a vote to be successful. The losing side has to accept the result. The vote was too close to be called decisive. Add to that the snp winning virtually every seat at the election and it becomes hard for those who voted yes to accept the result.

    No 55% Yes 45%

    That's too close to be called decisive??? Seems fairly decisive to me
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    BlackIvyBlackIvy Posts: 355
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    Rafer wrote: »
    It comes down to "the vow". If the snp keep pushing that Westminster hasn't and isnt delivering on the back of a **** packet promise made in the dying days of the campaign. Then a lot of Scots,who voted no, are going to feel cheated and flock to the yes side. Personified by the snp

    Doesn't Cameron keep challenging the SNP to give him a list of powers promised during the referendum campaign that are not contained in the Scotland act?

    Surely such a list wouldn't take long to draw up.
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    mimik1ukmimik1uk Posts: 46,701
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    BlackIvy wrote: »
    Doesn't Cameron keep challenging the SNP to give him a list of powers promised during the referendum campaign that are not contained in the Scotland act?

    Surely such a list wouldn't take long to draw up.

    it wouldn't take long at all as there were no specific powers promised at the time

    all that was promised was a commission would be established to identify the scope of the extra powers to be devolved , the SNP were part of that commission and signed off on its contents , so as long as the scotland act at a minimum contains everything from the smith commission then the vow is being delivered
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    DaewosDaewos Posts: 8,345
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    So they were seeming biased during the election now they still keep going on about it. Why don't the media get over it? Surely there's other news? I even know people who voted yes are fed up hearing about it.

    For all the coverage they have given the other side a media blackout since the referendum. What about the 55% who are happy we are still part of the UK? Maybe that's boring news for them.

    Have you seen the polls in Scotland over the past twelve months? Did you see the GE results last May? Why do you think there is still interest in this story?

    But then as you have posted on the subject before and made your views very clear I am rather bemused that you have to ask the question. ;-)
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,386
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    Mesostim wrote: »
    What is the opposite of a purr?

    rrup:rolleyes:
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    BlackIvy wrote: »
    Doesn't Cameron keep challenging the SNP to give him a list of powers promised during the referendum campaign that are not contained in the Scotland act?

    Surely such a list wouldn't take long to draw up.

    It's all perception. If the snp keep it going and Westminster is perceived to be dragging it's feet. It plays into the hands of the snp.
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    Verence wrote: »
    No 55% Yes 45%

    That's too close to be called decisive??? Seems fairly decisive to me

    10% is decisive? What would you call a margin of error?
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    mimik1ukmimik1uk Posts: 46,701
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    Rafer wrote: »
    It's all perception. If the snp keep it going and Westminster is perceived to be dragging it's feet. It plays into the hands of the snp.

    thats the thing , the SNP keep using phrases like "close to home rule" or "near federalism" as what was promised

    but if you ask ten different people what those things mean you will get ten different answers

    so as long as they keep people believing in something that cant actually be proved then they can continue to say it hasn't been delivered, as no one really knows what it meant in the first place
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    Sifter22Sifter22 Posts: 12,057
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    Scotland will always belong to England. Time to move on.
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    zelda fanzelda fan Posts: 6,330
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    Sifter22 wrote: »
    Scotland will always belong to England. Time to move on.

    Maybe im naive but i like to think that in this day and age no country in the UK owns another. We are countries with history,rivalries,friendships,traditions that help form our union.
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    DaewosDaewos Posts: 8,345
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    Sifter22 wrote: »
    Scotland will always belong to England. Time to move on.

    :D good one!
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    Fappy_McFapperFappy_McFapper Posts: 1,302
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    Sifter22 wrote: »
    Scotland will always belong to England. Time to move on.

    Edgy.
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    jonner101jonner101 Posts: 3,410
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    Rafer wrote: »
    10% is decisive? What would you call a margin of error?

    This wasn't a poll this was the real results so no margin of error.?
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    Jim_McIntoshJim_McIntosh Posts: 5,866
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    This same poster posts this same post periodically, everyone answers all the points, then he ignores that and just keeps posting the same points.

    This is slightly different because this time it isn't "why don't the SNP rule out ever holding future referendums?". Now it's the media's fault for going on about it. A slight variation on a theme.

    Ironic thing is that the poster who started this thread goes on about referendums on here more than anyone else I've seen.

    I'll straight bat the question anyway. The media keep going on about it because it was a big event in Scottish politics and we may face another referendum in future if public opinion shows desire for that and the SNP decide they want another. September 2015 was 55-45. Polls now still show No in the lead overall but it's closer than before. If that trend continues then there will be heavy pressure for another referendum if support were ever to hit 55% for example.

    So they keep going on about it because it's only a settled issue for some people and everyone knows that. The 2014 referendum was about then. A future referendum will be about the time it is held in.
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    linkinpark875linkinpark875 Posts: 29,703
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    The result would be another no.
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    bspacebspace Posts: 14,303
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    Have you noticed that there's always just the right amount of news to fill the space available.

    If there's nothing newer to fill the space then old stuff will keep getting recycled.
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    Cheetah666Cheetah666 Posts: 16,036
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    Its still an issue because the SNP swept the board at the May general election.
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    Black SheepBlack Sheep Posts: 15,219
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    Still an issue because there is a Scottish election coming up and the SNP need to deflect from their less than sterling performance in Government.

    It does seem to have died downw a wee bit lately as the SNP elite have ruled another referendum out for a good few years.
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