If the plane that went down over Lockerbie had exploded over the Atlantic as intended I expect it could be a similar mystery.
Really, is this true? Why? Wasn't some of the Lockerbie wreckage quite big, would it not have floated?
Fascinated by this apparently tragic mystery. If the plane had crashed whole from the sky, the pilot could have sent a mayday. If it had been hijacked, the pilot could have alerted people on the ground. If it exploded mid air I would have thought debris would have been found by now. And in any case, the black box would be emitting a signal.
As others have said, I expect it to eventually be something quite mundane (but nonetheless tragic) - maybe the pilot lost communication due to a fault and flew on for a bit, or turned back, and perhaps the searches are taking place in the wrong area. Or perhaps it has been blown to smithereens and that's why nobody can find it.
Watching the news conference, they really haven't a clue as to what has happened to this plane.
Is it possible for a plane to go into 'stealth' mode which cannot be detected on the radar?
I heard one reporter yesterday saying there were many islands in that area and the plane could have landed on one of them!! As much as that would be an ideal outcome with the plane found and the passengers safe, an aircraft that big needs a long landing runway and how does anyone try to hide a plane that big?
That has to be ruled out, It's not just about hiding an aeroplane they would have to take every body's mobile phones off them and have a place big enough to hide all the passengers and a bit pointless without a ransom demand or at least claiming responsibility.
I notice there have been lots of reports saying that if the plane is below 20,000 feet it won't appear on the radar.
What are the chances that a significant technical failure could have led to the plane descending rapidly (at least initially) and knocking out communications?
I genuinely don't know as I don't really know how planes work, but could such an event lead to the plane 'gliding' for a much longer period, but essentially being uncontactable and giving out no signal?
Also, if there was a structural failure at the point the plane vanished, is it not the case that the wreckage would be spread over a wide area, which would seemingly have made it more likely that they could have spotted -something-.
As a nervous flyer I really shouldn't get into these discussions... I
I notice there have been lots of reports saying that if the plane is below 20,000 feet it won't appear on the radar.
What are the chances that a significant technical failure could have led to the plane descending rapidly (at least initially) and knocking out communications?
I genuinely don't know as I don't really know how planes work, but could such an event lead to the plane 'gliding' for a much longer period, but essentially being uncontactable and giving out no signal?
Also, if there was a structural failure at the point the plane vanished, is it not the case that the wreckage would be spread over a wide area, which would seemingly have made it more likely that they could have spotted -something-.
As a nervous flyer I really shouldn't get into these discussions... I
You've more chance of being killed in an accident on a motorway than on a plane.
I've never seen an Iranian man who looks like Mario Balotelli. Maybe they both had Balotelli masks on at the time of checking in
Airlines don't check passport photographs. The passport wouldn't be seriously looked at until passport control at the arriving country, by which time the migrant would have achieved his aim in arriving as a refugee.
Airlines don't check passport photographs. The passport wouldn't be seriously looked at until passport control at the arriving country, by which time the migrant would have achieved his aim in arriving as a refugee.
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Its understood that it is mandatory in the UK and some other countries for the airline concerned to check the validity of passengers passports and /or travel documents before they board a flight otherwise the airline will risk substantial fines, although it would be unreasonable to afford blame where stolen or illegal documents may be involved.
The daily mail reports that mobile phones are stil ringing out of the people on board??? And they claim that one was rang on live TV. No other news sites are reporting this so im guessing this is just something they have just made up themselves to get a story.
The daily mail reports that mobile phones are stil ringing out of the people on board??? And they claim that one was rang on live TV. No other news sites are reporting this so im guessing this is just something they have just made up themselves to get a story.
this did happen live on chinese television - someone rang the phone of a relative on the plane. I think there's a link to a clip on this thread somewhere
Wow, this site certainly gets it's fair share of whack jobs when the sun goes down. The only thing that's not been suggested as a cause of this mystery is gay marriage!!
IMO, someone within Malaysian Airlines, Boeing or Rolls Royce knows something and, for whatever reason, can't/won't let the world know what it is.
The daily mail reports that mobile phones are stil ringing out of the people on board??? And they claim that one was rang on live TV. No other news sites are reporting this so im guessing this is just something they have just made up themselves to get a story.
It's probably not made up but just shows a lack of understanding of how phones work, especially when they'd be going through all sorts of networks.
Wow, this site certainly gets it's fair share of whack jobs when the sun goes down. The only thing that's not been suggested as a cause of this mystery is gay marriage!!
IMO, someone within Malaysian Airlines, Boeing or Rolls Royce knows something and, for whatever reason, can't/won't let the world know what it is.
Wow, this site certainly gets it's fair share of whack jobs when the sun goes down. The only thing that's not been suggested as a cause of this mystery is gay marriage!!
IMO, someone within Malaysian Airlines, Boeing or Rolls Royce knows something and, for whatever reason, can't/won't let the world know what it is.
and that is just as much a 'whack theory' as others!
A news conference about fake passports ...... who is on the plane ...... did they have the right picture on their passport ....... passport numbers ....... where they were going ......
Yes, but where is the aircraft?
Just watching the press conference now. Its all about the passports.
Why is the search area around the last location so tiny compared to the huge search area the other side of land?
Either they know more about its last movements or they're just not looking in the right place
They will know where the 'right place' is when they find it!
There are dozens of search agencies involved all of which working on last known location and/or a potential location but if, for whatever reason, the plane is not visible or no signal is picked up, then it is a pretty difficult job.
Just watching the press conference now. Its all about the passports.
Very strange.
The Interpol conference? Why would it be about anything else? Interpol won't be searching for the plane or be investigating what happened (besides any criminal investigation perhaps).
As soon as I heard one of the names including 'Mohammed' I did suddenly think a lot of people will now be thinking 'case closed' and jumping to their own conclusions.
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That rules out one of the two people travelling on stolen passengers.
two of the people travelling on stolen passports ..
Really, is this true? Why? Wasn't some of the Lockerbie wreckage quite big, would it not have floated?
Fascinated by this apparently tragic mystery. If the plane had crashed whole from the sky, the pilot could have sent a mayday. If it had been hijacked, the pilot could have alerted people on the ground. If it exploded mid air I would have thought debris would have been found by now. And in any case, the black box would be emitting a signal.
As others have said, I expect it to eventually be something quite mundane (but nonetheless tragic) - maybe the pilot lost communication due to a fault and flew on for a bit, or turned back, and perhaps the searches are taking place in the wrong area. Or perhaps it has been blown to smithereens and that's why nobody can find it.
That has to be ruled out, It's not just about hiding an aeroplane they would have to take every body's mobile phones off them and have a place big enough to hide all the passengers and a bit pointless without a ransom demand or at least claiming responsibility.
What are the chances that a significant technical failure could have led to the plane descending rapidly (at least initially) and knocking out communications?
I genuinely don't know as I don't really know how planes work, but could such an event lead to the plane 'gliding' for a much longer period, but essentially being uncontactable and giving out no signal?
Also, if there was a structural failure at the point the plane vanished, is it not the case that the wreckage would be spread over a wide area, which would seemingly have made it more likely that they could have spotted -something-.
As a nervous flyer I really shouldn't get into these discussions... I
They know the other person but are yet to say what his intentions were.
You've more chance of being killed in an accident on a motorway than on a plane.
I've never seen an Iranian man who looks like Mario Balotelli. Maybe they both had Balotelli masks on at the time of checking in
Airlines don't check passport photographs. The passport wouldn't be seriously looked at until passport control at the arriving country, by which time the migrant would have achieved his aim in arriving as a refugee.
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Its understood that it is mandatory in the UK and some other countries for the airline concerned to check the validity of passengers passports and /or travel documents before they board a flight otherwise the airline will risk substantial fines, although it would be unreasonable to afford blame where stolen or illegal documents may be involved.
Not really. Maybe these two are innocent and the terrorists travelled on their own passports?
This, this and this.
Terrorists are going to blend in - they'll travel on legitimate passports, they'll buy their tickets well in advance, they'll blend in.
this did happen live on chinese television - someone rang the phone of a relative on the plane. I think there's a link to a clip on this thread somewhere
IMO, someone within Malaysian Airlines, Boeing or Rolls Royce knows something and, for whatever reason, can't/won't let the world know what it is.
It's probably not made up but just shows a lack of understanding of how phones work, especially when they'd be going through all sorts of networks.
Isn't that a whack job theory?
and that is just as much a 'whack theory' as others!
Why is the search area around the last location so tiny compared to the huge search area the other side of land?
Either they know more about its last movements or they're just not looking in the right place
Just watching the press conference now. Its all about the passports.
Very strange.
Quite agree - if the only information is the last location then the search area is completely baffling.
One of the men, allegedy.
They will know where the 'right place' is when they find it!
There are dozens of search agencies involved all of which working on last known location and/or a potential location but if, for whatever reason, the plane is not visible or no signal is picked up, then it is a pretty difficult job.
The Interpol conference? Why would it be about anything else? Interpol won't be searching for the plane or be investigating what happened (besides any criminal investigation perhaps).
As soon as I heard one of the names including 'Mohammed' I did suddenly think a lot of people will now be thinking 'case closed' and jumping to their own conclusions.