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It was all Ryan's fault
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I'm no Heidi and Spencer fan, in fact I'm not sure if there's anyone in the house I like, but what Ryan did was stupid.
Ryan has said practically nothing so far, a boring HM that plays Mr Nice Guy. Then out of nowhere he decides to challenge Heidi and Spencer about their kissing. They are a married couple and you don't go challenging such things.
Heidi and Spencer are clearly a couple of trailer trash morons but there's certain things you just shouldn't say to people, particularly when things are already threatening to blow up.
I'm not surprised Spencer was annoyed.
I'm no Heidi and Spencer fan, in fact I'm not sure if there's anyone in the house I like, but what Ryan did was stupid.
Ryan has said practically nothing so far, a boring HM that plays Mr Nice Guy. Then out of nowhere he decides to challenge Heidi and Spencer about their kissing. They are a married couple and you don't go challenging such things.
Heidi and Spencer are clearly a couple of trailer trash morons but there's certain things you just shouldn't say to people, particularly when things are already threatening to blow up.
I'm not surprised Spencer was annoyed.
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He came out of his shell to try and play to the gallery and it failed.
I personally don't see the big deal what Ryan said. Fair enough its non of has business, but its not as big of a deal people are making out.
I agree. Why don't people let it rest. Ryan apologised. To Speidi and things have moved on so let just do that please.
he was using his 'humour' to hide behind what he was really trying to do which was to mock their relationship. no wonder why both heidi and spencer told him off for it. it was kinda stupid
Other than that though, nah he wasn't saying anything much :rolleyes:
I actually thought that he was serious and when Spencer kicked off at him then he tried to defuse the situation by telling Spencer he was joking but Spencer kept on going like Ryan's original comment was deadly serious and I think that is how Ryan originally meant it.
I still think SPencer went way over the top and was basically bullying and shouting everyone down who dared speak up but I do think that Ryan wasn't actually joking when he first opened his mouth.
Poor Pratts, they have been nothing but sweet and charming from day one, as they always are, infact they are known for their wonderful kindess to their fellow reality show contestants. Shame on Rylan for daring to speak to the golden couple without asking permission first - on bended knees of course.
For crying out loud, this pair are the most obnoxious people to ever enter the house.
He said in the DR that the others don't really get his sense of humour, and he found that a bit awkward, but he can't be seen as rude - Rylan and Razor seemed shocked that Spencer was sniping at him.
Their marriage is questioned on this site probably every hour of the day. If many of us are so fascinated by it and asking questions, why wouldn't the housemates? They're around it 24/7 (or they were.) People are questioning it because it doesn't look genuine.
Do you remember how the comments regarding Speidi's relationship first came to the fore? It wasn't the HMs just discussing them - they were discussing how odd their kissing was. The vilification of Ryan seems to be out of context.
Speidi were kissing - all the time - but not touching. Thet were doing that ridiculous puckering up to each other - it was this that was fist discussed and how odd their kissing was, which led to it being remarked upon that they didn't actually kiss.
For Speidi (and those supporters) to say that the question about Speidi kissing was inappropriate and rude because it was intrusive and Speidi don't want to force their intimacy on the house is wrong and missing the context.
Speidi had already been demonstative, frequently, by doing the non-kiss. Put that in and the context about them kissing and the HMs talking about it changes. When Speidi heard them talking about them kissing (when they were in the basement) they weren't just slagging them off it was in the context of their odd kissing which they did display.
The context for Ryan's comment (which I have never seen such vitriol) also changes no?
In any event, I haven't heard anything really bad said about Speidi by any of the HMs when they were in the basement. As seasoned RTV Speidi will have heard much much worse, and to pretend they were hurt is preposterous imo. They have had to scrape the barrel and keep them in there an extra day to try and get more stuff said about them. To give Speidi their due, they have feigned the apropriate outrage and put on sad faces, but its all too manipulated and contrived to convince me.
Why not? Because you are taking his word it? Paula had an odd sense of humour and was awkward but was called rude plenty of times. I am sure he was trying to lighten the situation but he was doing at the expense of Speidi, who were already marginalised - that's not just a different sense of humour, it's cowardly.
You cut off the end of my sentence. I said why I don't think he's a rude housemate - Rylan and Razor were shocked Spencer was having a go at him.
If he's as rude and obnoxious as all that why would Rylan and Razor be pissed off that Spencer was shouting at him?
I always try to make a joke in a situation like that and sometimes it works and puts people off their anger for a few seconds. But obviously Ryan had forgotten he was talking to the only man in the world without any sense of humour and it backfired.
I think had he been saying it to be snide he would have argued back when Spencer started mocking him. But instead he realised his mistake and apologised.
Isn't that the truth. I don't think I've ever seen a more humourless couple on reality TV at all.
Speidi are an awful pair of people - if I had to live with them I don't think I'd be able to be civil beyond a few days, and maybe winding them up or getting angry a little would happen. Ideal? No. But totally understandable - they're just horrid.
A shame that it led where it did (Razor etc), but that was more to do with Speidi's relentlessness in hypocritically attacking others, and certainly not Ryan's fault.
I'm sick of their 'holier than thou' act. If I had to live with it I'd be doing a Razor or a Ryan or *something*!
Joke or not it seems people are lambasting him as if he said something utterly reprehensible.
He said do you kiss or to that effect and that's it!
I've heard worse from other housemates.
('Watch this guys, watch me wind them up'.)
'So you guys do kiss each other?'
Great way to ease the tension there Ryan especially after they have spent 48 hours watching people collectively take the piss out of how they behave as a couple.