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Do women fancy famous men in a herd like manner? (Serious question, not a provocation
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This isn’t about Siavash (please keep it that way), although his support on this forum is what sparked the thought.
Is it that human females, like other herd animals, enjoy a consensus of opinion as to whom the most desirable male is (and that this consensus increases his desirability, like a stone gathering moss)? Then they all rush to get fertilised by him (if feasible)?
Maybe it is to reduce competition and reduce female to female antagonism?
I am aware that according to evolutionary theory the alpha male has the best genes etc, but obviously human cultural degeneration can throw a spanner in that, I’m interested in the modern cultural effect of the “media created male” on our animal behaviour.
Is it that human females, like other herd animals, enjoy a consensus of opinion as to whom the most desirable male is (and that this consensus increases his desirability, like a stone gathering moss)? Then they all rush to get fertilised by him (if feasible)?
Maybe it is to reduce competition and reduce female to female antagonism?
I am aware that according to evolutionary theory the alpha male has the best genes etc, but obviously human cultural degeneration can throw a spanner in that, I’m interested in the modern cultural effect of the “media created male” on our animal behaviour.
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I think media profile probably has quite a bit to do with it.
i dont think so. I personally tend to like really rough and ready looking men rather than your stereotypical good looking model male.
My best friend and I have never ever found the same man attractive..... probably why we're still best friends
We've been told all our lives that women are the same as men, and that that is not only factually correct, but more important is morally correct.
Ever dared think it might not be true?
No, not me; I'll fancy who I fancy and never mind everyone else... instant attraction for me is about eyes, but someone can grow on me if they have the right attitude and make me laugh. Not bothered what other people think one bit...
Personality aside, they seek healthy mates who would be loyal, dependable, trustworthy and provide security.
However, many modern women who can provide for themselves are more concerned with sense of humour and good looks. Which is why the divorce rate is so high.
I think we've had a varied evolutionary past with different bits of us pulling in different directions.
Personality over looks any day
Funnily enough in my many years (oh too many years) of having a lot of fellow female friends it has very, very rarely happened that any of us have fancied the same individual. Whether that's anything of import on this thread but I suppose does illustrate that as "pack" or "herd" like me and mates have definitely not gone for the same guy and absolutely don't see what others do in their boyfriends/husbands!
You see that's interesting because I do think women will go for personality rather than looks - obviously utterly pigeon-holing here so not saying we all do. Women don't necessarily need a hottie on their arm. Or they see attraction beyond the physicality of the male and then find it attractive.
Yet a man would very rarely do so - they'd rather keep the plainer woman as the friend and the good-looking duller woman (trophy) as the girlfriend.
Men are more swayed, IMO, by public opinion of the beauty of their partner than women and women see beauty where maybe it isn't obvious and of course status and money do play a huge role in that too for some.
Again total categorisation and just a general observance.
Same here, Fringo, none of my friends and I have ever fancied the same bloke, ever. Well except for Eric the Vampire in True Blood
too true! When I look back, whenever a female friend has confessed a crush on a guy or fancying a guy, the other friends' reactions, most of the time have been:eek: "why do you fancy this guy?" "how can you fancy that guy?" " what do you see in him?"
could I said not advocating it as I think it is a really wierd way of talkng about it
then there are the less obviously physically attractive like richard e grant or johnny depp as captain jack sparrow that really shouldn't work but do for some women but others cant see the attraction at all
It is these less obvious ones that fascinate me , because if you met them at a party would they still do it for you , or is it just something they have on the screen
out of interst there is a school of thought that has it that the reason so many men adored Marilyn Monroe was that she was short sighted wouldn't wear her glasses on film and so her pupils were always slighlty dilated due to her myopia. Dilated pupils are seen as a sign of attraction , hence the men sub consciously thought Marilyn fancied them
with regard to Siavash and the ladies fancyig though I have to say i think there was a lot of quiet fancying and then the first person posted ,, then a llot of us posted
he is another one where he is not traditionally easy to see why he would be so fanciable and some women really cannot see it
Women fawn all over men they see on TV who, if they saw them on the street as an average Joe, would not bat an eye lid.
This can work the same way with famous women but certainly not to the same extent. I think it is do with women wanting to be with the most desirable (i.e. wealthy, confident, respected, good job) option and so yes, there is a certain 'herd mentality' which I believe is natural.
Interesting viewpoint. I definitely think men care/ feel/have more pressure to be with a girl that looks "right". By ex- boyfriend of 10 years said if I was "plain" then he'd never ever be with me - I was agog. Even knowing me etc. if I was just plain (not the back of a bus - I did ask) he said there was no chance he'd be with me.
That would never have entered my head vice versa.
But along with the other reasons already mentioned for different tastes, woman are all different, and biologically we tend to find have an attraction, on a visceral level, to those men who are different from us biologically at some level - different immune system, I think, as this produces stronger, healthier babies.
This goes for men too.
Thus there are 'stars' of many types, just as there are people of many types. We actually, truly do find different types attractive.
Whether we admit it or not!
I don't think Siavash would be typically described as an Alpha male, I think Charlie fits that description more!
I know lots of females and my gay male friends who don't find Siavash attractive whatsoever. As for women being like 'herds', I think women dislike each other a bit too much sometimes to be described as 'herds'