No, but he's more likely to compare like with like. Both Little Mix and Leon released their first single off the back of the X Factor dominating the media for however many months beforehand, so therefore would be expected to sell far more quickly and in larger amounts than other artists in their first week, as no other single receives close to the amount of hype that the X Factor winner's single does. It's a completely different entity.
You do understand that Little Mix HAVE sold more than any other artist in the first week of slaes, right? That is why they currently have the highest week-1 sales this year. They haven't had poor sales by this year's standard.
This, of course, has nothing to do with comparing their sales to Leon's - who didn't release his winner's single this year.
I bought the Leona CD (Hurt) and I have to say its the only Leona track I've bought as I don't normally like her stuff. I like her voice, but not her record companies choice of songs.
My theory is she is experimenting with other styles and genres in an attempt to pull in new fans, and guess what, it worked!
This EP was just a bunch of cover version aimed at giving fans an early Christmas present whilst waiting for the album. It was never intended to be a highly promoted single.
You do understand that Little Mix HAVE sold more than any other artist in the first week of slaes, right? That is why they currently have the highest week-1 sales this year. They haven't had poor sales by this year's standard.
Maybe that's because there haven't been any other highly promoted charity/talent show singles this year so far? Let's wait and see how the figures are looking by the end of the year, once the MW sales figures are added to the mix
This, of course, has nothing to do with comparing their sales to Leon's - who didn't release his winner's single this year.
I know what you mean! I though comparing to Bob the Builder would be a clear enough giveaway, but I guess not
To those unsure - I don't actually think Leona is a massive failure!
I'm a guy, though, btw.
All this proves is a novelty single by an iconic TV character - watched and loved by generations of children can sell more copies than a rather poorly chosen cover released by the winner of a talent show. Nothing else ... Your argument contains a huge logical fallacy that a single being less successful than a highly successful single makes it a failure - it doesn't - it just makes it - less successful ...
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Maybe that's because there haven't been any other highly promoted charity/talent show singles this year so far? Let's wait and see how the figures are looking by the end of the year, once the MW sales figures are added to the mix
Do you understand why I made that point you quoted? It was being implied that they had failed to do something that they actually have done.
What they may or may not do - or what any other single from any other artist from now on may do - is immaterial to that point.
All this proves is a novelty single by an iconic TV character - watched and loved by generations of children can sell more copies than a rather poorly chosen cover released by the winner of a talent show. Nothing else ... Your argument contains a huge logical fallacy that a single being less successful than a highly successful single makes it a failure - it doesn't - it just makes it - less successful ...
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I think you misunderstood the point of my argument. I know the OP contains a logical fallacy.
All this proves is a novelty single by an iconic TV character - watched and loved by generations of children can sell more copies than a rather poorly chosen cover released by the winner of a talent show. Nothing else ... Your argument contains a huge logical fallacy that a single being less successful than a highly successful single makes it a failure - it doesn't - it just makes it - less successful ...
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i think everyone had enough of leona and her long breaks just to take out songs that sound the same and will be perform with her in a long dress standing still
You do understand that Little Mix HAVE sold more than any other artist in the first week of sales, right? That is why they currently have the highest week 1 sales this year. They haven't had poor sales by this year's standard.
Of course I understand that. I think you missed my point. Whoever the winner of the X Factor was, it was pretty much a given that their first week sales were going to be large and that they'd get straight to number 1, particularly as no rival campaign has really got going (I'm not counting MW, as they're not being portrayed as an 'anti-X Factor stick it to Cowell' option).
The winner's single is released off the back of a 23 week show that is one of the most-watched in the country and dominates the tabloids for months. You can't say that about any other artist this year. My point was that it's a more valid comparison (for Simon at least) to compare this year's winner's sales with previous years, that have received similar publicity. Single sales have in fact increased this year, so while in terms of general first week single sales 210K is a good figure (but, like I said, from the huge amount of hype the show gets the single was always going to sell well), when contrasted with similar acts it's actually quite poor.
i think everyone had enough of leona and her long breaks just to take out songs that sound the same and will be perform with her in a long dress standing still
I think you have a point, she needs to come back and perform like this, it will show a different side to her.
Do you understand why I made that point you quoted? It was being implied that they had failed to do something that they actually have done.
What they may or may not do - or what any other single from any other artist from now on may do - is immaterial to that point.
I think you misunderstood the point of my argument. I know the OP contains a logical fallacy.
I think the point the OP was making - in a rather obscure way - was that since it would be pointless to compare Leona's sales with those of a popular novelty single, it would be equally pointless to compare LM with previous X Factor winners - though apparently perfectly fair to compare them with other singles which haven't received anything like the same publicity? I get a feeling that if LM had sold - say 800K in their first week - that their fans wouldn't find such comparisons with previous winners quite so pointless :cool:
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You do understand that Little Mix HAVE sold more than any other artist in the first week of slaes, right? That is why they currently have the highest week-1 sales this year. They haven't had poor sales by this year's standard.
This, of course, has nothing to do with comparing their sales to Leon's - who didn't release his winner's single this year.
I know what you mean! I though comparing to Bob the Builder would be a clear enough giveaway, but I guess not
To those unsure - I don't actually think Leona is a massive failure!
I'm a guy, though, btw.
My theory is she is experimenting with other styles and genres in an attempt to pull in new fans, and guess what, it worked!
This EP was just a bunch of cover version aimed at giving fans an early Christmas present whilst waiting for the album. It was never intended to be a highly promoted single.
Long live Bob The Builder!
She shouldn't need to sell her records at a reduced price
All this proves is a novelty single by an iconic TV character - watched and loved by generations of children can sell more copies than a rather poorly chosen cover released by the winner of a talent show. Nothing else ... Your argument contains a huge logical fallacy that a single being less successful than a highly successful single makes it a failure - it doesn't - it just makes it - less successful ...
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Do you understand why I made that point you quoted? It was being implied that they had failed to do something that they actually have done.
What they may or may not do - or what any other single from any other artist from now on may do - is immaterial to that point.
I think you misunderstood the point of my argument. I know the OP contains a logical fallacy.
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It's only the second single that's a cover she's released?
I like "scare quotes", I use them a lot but I've never heard them called that before...
Of course I understand that. I think you missed my point. Whoever the winner of the X Factor was, it was pretty much a given that their first week sales were going to be large and that they'd get straight to number 1, particularly as no rival campaign has really got going (I'm not counting MW, as they're not being portrayed as an 'anti-X Factor stick it to Cowell' option).
The winner's single is released off the back of a 23 week show that is one of the most-watched in the country and dominates the tabloids for months. You can't say that about any other artist this year. My point was that it's a more valid comparison (for Simon at least) to compare this year's winner's sales with previous years, that have received similar publicity. Single sales have in fact increased this year, so while in terms of general first week single sales 210K is a good figure (but, like I said, from the huge amount of hype the show gets the single was always going to sell well), when contrasted with similar acts it's actually quite poor.
I think you have a point, she needs to come back and perform like this, it will show a different side to her.
Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This
Take A Bow
Forgive Me
Glassheart
I think the point the OP was making - in a rather obscure way - was that since it would be pointless to compare Leona's sales with those of a popular novelty single, it would be equally pointless to compare LM with previous X Factor winners - though apparently perfectly fair to compare them with other singles which haven't received anything like the same publicity? I get a feeling that if LM had sold - say 800K in their first week - that their fans wouldn't find such comparisons with previous winners quite so pointless :cool: