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Ebola now in Spain its getting nearer!

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    PencilBreathPencilBreath Posts: 3,643
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    I can't wait to bleed from every orifice, it's going to be so exciting.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,003
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    Tourista wrote: »
    Even the drug companies are saying the WHO was negligent.
    I know I shouldn't, but I laughed out loud this morning when the BBC report on the NY business said
    "Doctor who is in New York ..." :blush::D
    I can't wait to bleed from every orifice, it's going to be so exciting.
    Sounds like a normal Friday night out in Leeds ...
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Tourista wrote: »
    Even the drug companies are saying the WHO was negligent.

    When the first cases were reported they went to the WHO and said they had a possible vaccine but it would need rushing through to be of any use, and the WHO simply stalled them and said they would have to "wait and see" what happened before looking at pushing through any new treatment.

    From day one, the response from the WHO has been a disaster. Previous outbreaks have been dealt with straight away, why was this one any different?.
    Surprising really as the boss Margaret Chan usually gets criticised for being too alarmist.
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    phylo_roadkingphylo_roadking Posts: 21,339
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    Tourista wrote: »
    Even the drug companies are saying the WHO was negligent.

    When the first cases were reported they went to the WHO and said they had a possible vaccine but it would need rushing through to be of any use, and the WHO simply stalled them and said they would have to "wait and see" what happened before looking at pushing through any new treatment.

    From day one, the response from the WHO has been a disaster. Previous outbreaks have been dealt with straight away, why was this one any different?.

    Conversely, other parties are saying that over recent years....before this outbreak...it was the drug companies that showed no sign of being interested in producing a vaccine due to the small numbes of deaths involved! They couldn't have made and sold enough separate doses to make back the huge development costs, so sod it :p
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    GroutyGrouty Posts: 34,039
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    Mali confirmed its first case today. A 2yr old girl who was recently in Guinea. She and anyone in Mali she's come in contact with have been isolated.

    So much for porous land borders...

    Just died :(
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Grouty wrote: »
    Just died :(

    The girl's mother died in Guinea a few weeks ago and the child was then brought by relatives to Mali.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29755443
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    franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    Grouty wrote: »
    Just died :(

    Oh bless her, poor little mite. :( RIP
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Yes very sad for the little girl. Didn't even get a proper chance at life. Probably one of the youngest victims.

    Meanwhile, they're still tracking down ebola contacts in New York. I think this was going to be the lead story this evening on CNN and Fox until the Seattle school shooting.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Have to say Nina Pham was looking in good shape in her press conference. Going back to Texas to rest and probably watch all the footage of herself on YouTube!!
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    jzeejzee Posts: 25,498
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    Mandark wrote: »
    Have to say Nina Pham was looking in good shape in her press conference. Going back to Texas to rest and probably watch all the footage of herself on YouTube!!
    It does seem like getting serum from a recovered person is pretty effective, sadly they can't get enough to treat all the people in Africa.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    jzee wrote: »
    It does seem like getting serum from a recovered person is pretty effective, sadly they can't get enough to treat all the people in Africa.
    Yes, it's looking like a virus we can crack, although admittedly its hard to know how different strains will be dealt with.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    New Jersey nurse tested negative. I can see lawsuits coming out of this case as nurse argued at the airport that she didn't have a fever. They took external readings and not internal ones which are more accurate. Nevertheless she was forcefully whisked off to quarantine.
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Mandark wrote: »
    New Jersey nurse tested negative. I can see lawsuits coming out of this case as nurse argued at the airport that she didn't have a fever. They took external readings and not internal ones which are more accurate. Nevertheless she was forcefully whisked off to quarantine.

    OTOH, it's possible that a nurse returning from treating Ebola victims would realise the need for extra caution. Maybe all returning medics should be quarantined on arrival.
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    jzeejzee Posts: 25,498
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    Electra wrote: »
    OTOH, it's possible that a nurse returning from treating Ebola victims would realise the need for extra caution. Maybe all returning medics should be quarantined on arrival.
    Exactly that has now been announced, all medics & others who have had contact with people infected with Ebola will be quarantined for 3 weeks.
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    jzee wrote: »
    Exactly that has now been announced, all medics & others who have had contact with people infected with Ebola will be quarantined for 3 weeks.

    Oh, right. I didn't know that. Shame they didn't implement it before the New York doctor though.

    There seems to be mixed reactions from medics
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/nyregion/ebola-quarantines-seen-as-barrier-to-volunteers.html
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Electra wrote: »
    Oh, right. I didn't know that. Shame they didn't implement it before the New York doctor though.

    There seems to be mixed reactions from medics
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/nyregion/ebola-quarantines-seen-as-barrier-to-volunteers.html
    Detained nurse complaining that dogs gets better quarantine treatment. Well Yankee dog Bentley may be but certainly not Excalibur, the Spanish dog!!
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/nyregion/nurse-in-newark-tests-negative-for-ebola.html
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Mandark wrote: »
    Detained nurse complaining that dogs gets better quarantine treatment. Well Yankee dog Bentley may be but certainly not Excalibur, the Spanish dog!!
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/nyregion/nurse-in-newark-tests-negative-for-ebola.html
    Interesting article from detained nurse about running the gauntlet in the NYC/ New Jersey airport quarantine zone. Yes, you guessed it, you get treated like a plague spreading criminal rather than someone who may need medical help.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece
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    F2kSelF2kSel Posts: 1,327
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    If they are going to ignore the rules at home then they shouldn't go abroad, why would they obey the rules there.

    I can't help thinking they may be making things worse not better.
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    spotty_catspotty_cat Posts: 557
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    I do wish people would stop panicking about Ebola.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,003
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    Diary of a survivor: Day umpty plus 6 2. 00.05am

    Had a panic attack about it all. Not much medicinal vodka left now, and I'm already two bottles down since yesterday. The cat won't come out from under the utility bed.

    Tuned in to short wave. Thankfully there was no calypso music. Apparently the WHO will be distributing vaccine across Africa shortly. Considering a run for Burkina Faso, might be able to pick up some duty free into the bargain.

    Wonder if Tenerife has been wiped out ...
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    Yes. Cue more institutional panic in a Western country.
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    SnikpohSnikpoh Posts: 2,421
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    Mandark wrote: »
    New Jersey nurse tested negative. I can see lawsuits coming out of this case as nurse argued at the airport that she didn't have a fever. They took external readings and not internal ones which are more accurate. Nevertheless she was forcefully whisked off to quarantine.

    From LA Times:

    "So long as an individual's temperature does not exceed 101.5 degrees and there are no visible symptoms of Ebola, health authorities say it should be assumed the person is not infectious.

    Yet the largest study of the current outbreak found that in nearly 13% of "confirmed and probable" cases in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and elsewhere, those infected did not have fevers.

    The study, sponsored by the World Health Organization and published online late last month by the New England Journal of Medicine, analyzed data on 3,343 confirmed and 667 probable cases of Ebola.


    Texas healthcare worker tests positive for Ebola
    Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Noam N. Levey, Kurtis Lee
    The finding that 87.1% of those infected exhibited fever — but 12.9% did not — illustrates the challenges confronting health authorities as they struggle to contain the epidemic."
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    You know the Yanks any excuse to sue, plus when it gets here and we do the same old Shami Chakrabati will be on the news claiming we are holding people against their human rights blah blah blah.

    Remember human rights will come before the spread of a deadly virus.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Snikpoh wrote: »
    From LA Times:

    "So long as an individual's temperature does not exceed 101.5 degrees and there are no visible symptoms of Ebola, health authorities say it should be assumed the person is not infectious.

    Yet the largest study of the current outbreak found that in nearly 13% of "confirmed and probable" cases in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and elsewhere, those infected did not have fevers.

    The study, sponsored by the World Health Organization and published online late last month by the New England Journal of Medicine, analyzed data on 3,343 confirmed and 667 probable cases of Ebola.

    Texas healthcare worker tests positive for Ebola
    Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Noam N. Levey, Kurtis Lee
    The finding that 87.1% of those infected exhibited fever — but 12.9% did not — illustrates the challenges confronting health authorities as they struggle to contain the epidemic."
    Yes and even blood tests can come back negative because the virus load is too low. Nevertheless it does seem this nurse was treated more like a drugs/guns smuggler.
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