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Evan Davis is no Paxman

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Davis is okay as a genial interviewer, but it looked like he has been told to do a Paxman and get aggressive, but that is a total failure because only Paxman can do a Paxman.
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    rfonzorfonzo Posts: 11,772
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    No he is not. He does not have that authority in his voice to really challenge the people he is interviewing.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,283
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    petertard wrote: »
    Davis is okay as a genial interviewer, but it looked like he has been told to do a Paxman and get aggressive, but that is a total failure because only Paxman can do a Paxman.

    i disagree, davis is not paxman nor is he meant to be. he has his own style. i like him on newsnight.
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    QT 3.14QT 3.14 Posts: 1,771
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    petertard wrote: »
    Davis is okay as a genial interviewer, but it looked like he has been told to do a Paxman and get aggressive, but that is a total failure because only Paxman can do a Paxman.
    rfonzo wrote: »
    No he is not. He does not have that authority in his voice to really challenge the people he is interviewing.

    Careful now, if he reads this you'll have him in floods of tears.
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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    The whole character of Newsnight has changed since Davis arrived. It feels utterly insubstantial and meaningless. I only watch bits of it these days.
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    dodradedodrade Posts: 23,861
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    Why didn't they go for Eddie Mair?
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    vauxhall1964vauxhall1964 Posts: 10,362
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    Davis is indeed no Paxman if by Paxman you mean a pompous, self-satisfied, sneering, overpaid ex-public school boy. Which I do.
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    petelypetely Posts: 2,994
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    Davis is indeed no Paxman if by Paxman you mean a pompous, self-satisfied, sneering, overpaid ex-public school boy. Which I do.
    From your comment it is apparent that you've never, ever, seen any programme that Paxman has fronted. Not NN, UC or his historical documentaries. Is your view made up wholly from the Spitting Image caricature?

    So far as Davis goes, his treatment of Owen Patterson (leaving the EU, 24 Nov) was unprofessional. He kept interrupting and it was plain that he had a personal agenda that he wasn't prepared to let go of. He's OK on the lightweight, non-confrontational, stuff but he's not up to dealing with "hot" issues.
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    wkdboy1wkdboy1 Posts: 193
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    He was awful last night. I changed channel half way through, he isnt very professional at all. Don't think i will bother watchong when he is on now.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Newsnight has a new editor who has come from newspapers and has no broadcasting experience. He is pursuing a style of interviewing where you don't upset the politicians with awkward questions. Another example of the BBC bringing in an outsider when there must be dozens of more experienced people already working for the BBC.
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    petelypetely Posts: 2,994
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    ftv wrote: »
    Newsnight has a new editor who has come from newspapers and has no broadcasting experience.
    I thought Katz was from The Guardian - not a newspaper :D

    He's also been quoted as saying:
    "I think Newsnight should be the group of clever friends you want to sit down with in the pub at the end of a long day and make sense of what is going on in the world.”
    Though it would appear (from what he's done to NN) that his idea of "clever friends" are people who agree with him - and that NN should be more like his Guardian "features" than a hard-nosed analytical news and current affairs programme.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    petely wrote: »
    I thought Katz was from The Guardian - not a newspaper :D

    He's also been quoted as saying:
    "I think Newsnight should be the group of clever friends you want to sit down with in the pub at the end of a long day and make sense of what is going on in the world.”
    Though it would appear (from what he's done to NN) that his idea of "clever friends" are people who agree with him - and that NN should be more like his Guardian "features" than a hard-nosed analytical news and current affairs programme.

    If true those remarks are very patronising.
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    lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    Not seen Davis on Newsnight but used to often hear him on the radio. Always thought he was very lightweight but with a very high opinion of himself. Not uncommon for me to switch off if he was on.
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    petelypetely Posts: 2,994
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    ftv wrote: »
    If true those remarks are very patronising.
    It would be a simple matter for you to search for that and verify it for yourself.
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    Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,344
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    Andy2 wrote: »
    The whole character of Newsnight has changed since Davis arrived. It feels utterly insubstantial and meaningless. I only watch bits of it these days.

    I have not watched it since Paxman went Davis does indeed have no authority in his voice , or the character to challenge.

    Lightweight on the radio now appears so on Newsnight.
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    LandisLandis Posts: 14,859
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    lundavra wrote: »
    Not seen Davis on Newsnight but used to often hear him on the radio. Always thought he was very lightweight but with a very high opinion of himself. Not uncommon for me to switch off if he was on.

    I heard him a lot on the Today programme and I recognize what you are saying.
    But I watched him on Newsnight last night and I thought he was outstanding. :o His interview with Owen Patterson was great tv.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 185
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    dodrade wrote: »
    Why didn't they go for Eddie Mair?

    Maybe because Eddie Mair is perfectly happy at Radio 4.
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    onecitizenonecitizen Posts: 5,042
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    ftv wrote: »
    If true those remarks are very patronising.

    It's the Guardian/BBC smug London metropolitan broadcasting self styled "elite"
    Patronising is what they do.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    onecitizen wrote: »
    It's the Guardian/BBC smug London metropolitan broadcasting self styled "elite"
    Patronising is what they do.

    Along with about 60 million other people I don't read The Guardian:D
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    onecitizenonecitizen Posts: 5,042
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    ftv wrote: »
    Along with about 60 million other people I don't read The Guardian:D

    Neither do I.

    The fact that that a Guardian "journalist" has taken over Newsnight is evidence that the BBC is hopelessly unrepresentative.
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    henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    It's hard to take him too seriously after ten years presenting Dragon's Den, which is a bit of fun, not exactly a hard-hitting analysis of viable business start-ups.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    onecitizen wrote: »
    Neither do I.

    The fact that that a Guardian "journalist" has taken over Newsnight is evidence that the BBC is hopelessly unrepresentative.

    The Director of BBC News is also an ex-newspaper editor, seems odd to have two people with no broadcasting experience in senior positions in a broadcasting organisation.The Director of News was heavily stamped on by Tony Hall when he started recruiting people from ITV and elsewhere without going through the agreed procedures; Hall also called a six-month moratorium on redundancies being proposed by the self-same person, hardly an auspicious start to a new job, even the BBC's head of HR said it was unfair !
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    BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    petely wrote: »
    From your comment it is apparent that you've never, ever, seen any programme that Paxman has fronted. Not NN, UC or his historical documentaries. Is your view made up wholly from the Spitting Image caricature?

    So far as Davis goes, his treatment of Owen Patterson (leaving the EU, 24 Nov) was unprofessional. He kept interrupting and it was plain that he had a personal agenda that he wasn't prepared to let go of. He's OK on the lightweight, non-confrontational, stuff but he's not up to dealing with "hot" issues.

    I disagree. He went too soft on Patterson IMO. Patterson wanted to keep repeating the same PR BS point. He wouldn't answer the bloody fundamental question which was "what about the people happy with the status quo".
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    realwalesrealwales Posts: 3,110
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    ftv wrote: »
    Newsnight has a new editor who has come from newspapers and has no broadcasting experience. He is pursuing a style of interviewing where you don't upset the politicians with awkward questions. Another example of the BBC bringing in an outsider when there must be dozens of more experienced people already working for the BBC.

    It's not at all unusual for people in broadcasting to have come from print journalism, both on air and behind the scenes. In fact, many of the very best presenters, interviewers and producers have. Print journalism is a very good grounding basis for discovering what makes a good story and how to tailor it for your audience.

    The trouble with Katz, and this has been said by many who work with him, is that he has a very Guardianista view of the world. That's the sphere he mixes in, that's the sort of dinner parties he goes to, and it has increasingly been reflected in Newsnight's output.
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    henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    realwales wrote: »
    It's not at all unusual for people in broadcasting to have come from print journalism, both on air and behind the scenes. In fact, many of the very best presenters, interviewers and producers have. Print journalism is a very good grounding basis for discovering what makes a good story and how to tailor it for your audience.

    That presents some interesting challenges in the UK, where the press is permitted to have a poltical slant (and where just about all the papers do), but where the TV news channels can't. It takes quite a skilled journalist to switch off their political leanings when they appear on screen. Sky News for example sail very close to the wind on occasions, although I don't believe Ofcom have found they have crossed it too often, if at all. But I can't imagine Adam Boulton, Kay Burley et al are reading the Socialist Worker in their spare time.

    I was a little surprised to read Paxman admitted he's a Tory in an interview earlier this year, although maybe that wasn't news to those who watched Newsnight etc more often than I did.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    Evan Davis is no Paxman

    And that's a bad thing?
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