Proof Of Age Thread
Jonathan1990
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Even though your a grown up adult they still ask you when buying an age restricted product. It was once anyone who looked under 21. Most shops now say 25 is the age if you look under they will ask you but there are other shops that say under 30 when by then your in middle age years. That can be even if you buy a PG rated film so without prof of age the only films they'd let you buy are U rated kids ones. They wont just accept any card as well which was the case with my college card which did have my date of birth on. It was a lottery ticket I tried to buy and they rejected it. They will only accept cards from the government which you have to send off for.
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There are so many positives to being young. Enjoy them and ignore the negatives - one day you will regret it's passing as do I.
Well occasionally I do - there are many positives to being older too:D
Nothing better than a mature woman that knows what she's doing. ;-)
I do find the stories like the 50 year old getting ID'd and things like that funny though, in my old job, the computer used to flash up to check if the customer was over 3 years old for certain video games, that just silly.
But checks for things over 18, they seem fine to me. At this rate, I'll still be ID'd for years, but if it keeps workers out of trouble, I don't mind!
1st you have to make a judgment on the person's age.
If YOU think the person maybe under 25, (which needs to be imputed and logged)
Then you are legally bound to ask for id
£3,000 fine for the cashier and most probably their p45.
Then there's the companies fine of tens of thousands.
Still unhappy about being complimented?
However, I have been trying to get served for **** in one particular shop since I was 13 years old. They still 10 years on refuse to serve me without ID. They must realise that at some point in those 10 years, I've turned 18. But like I say, I get why they do it.
Some checkout staff do take it too far. You've got an old man, grey hair, Zimmer frame who is quite obviously over 25 and some people still ask.
The Law is unduly onerous, inconsistently applied, over zealously policed, on occasion, and discriminatory (try producing non-UK ID or non-photo ID).
If you don't have a UK Photocard licence or Valid Passport carried with you, you risk problems.
Even accredited UK photocards, supplied by other approved UK Government agencies, are often refused.
As a humble cashier you might be 'offered' an £80 fixed penalty, but plead a defence at Court and lose, and you could be theoretically liable up to £5000 (not £3000).
And still at risk with losing your job.
Explanation of the ins and outs here, including Swindon stories of retailers being prosecuted for Persistent Sales (to undercover Test Purchasers) based on sales 2 and a half years apart with 3 legal Test Purchase refusals in between!
Its the laws fault though, not the workers.
I did laugh my arse off, but recognised the confusion at the time and took it in good part.
Some shops thought they had to ask everyone or something, even the rather obviously the middle aged.
Working behind the counter I was always calm and tough. The ones who just immediately produced the id were great, and some looked very young indeed.
The ones that got stroppy were either stupid or underage, pain in the arse either way.
Either you or your boss would catch hell if you made a mistake. It ain't all about the customer's feelings.
I take it you are in Scotland where Challenge 25 is the law, elsewhere in the UK it is simply a policy adopted by some shops.
I agree with others that the current laws are too onerous, personally I think there should be an 'honest belief' defence to any charge of underage selling of booze.
The point being - justify it for what it is, don't pretend it's anything else.
And given the price of booze/**** nowadays I find myself wondering where these kids are getting the money from but more importantly how TF their parents aren't noticing them getting home p*ssed and reeking of smoke.
Just let them have a drink at the pub as long as they behave (always used to work that way), though the problem there is they can't do a complete rebellion because they have to go outside to smoke and increases the chance of being spotted...
I had always thought that there was - IIRC it is a defence as listed in the Licensing Act (rest of UK?) but effectively overruled by overpolicing.
I guess I was just born looking like an old git
I've just turned 40.
That means I'm passed it...