who was that woman

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:10

who was the woman who wilf kept seeing and the doctor saw and changed when she saw her

lordo350 · 01/01/10 - 20:11

haha snap :P

JAS84 · 01/01/10 - 20:11

Never identified. All we know is that she was a Time Lady.

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:12

landonjones wrote: »

who was the woman who wilf kept seeing and the doctor saw and changed when she saw her

Was about to ask the same question.

I also wondered who the other bloke/woman was covering his face. maybe Matt Smith just to make up casting numbers so that it didn't look odd that one person was covering their face?

Maybe she was just crying because she didn't want to be part of Rasillon's plans, and DT realised not all Timelords were bad, just the main man?

alexjones · 01/01/10 - 20:12

i'm thinking she was his mother personally.

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:13

Rumours were his mother, or white guardian. But thats all they can be, rumours.

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:14

Was that not Rose's song playing in the background?

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:14

i thought it was Donna, wilf asked who was she and then the dr looked at Donna and remained silent

Victim Of Fate · 01/01/10 - 20:14

andychurchill wrote: »

Was about to ask the same question.

I also wondered who the other bloke/woman was covering his face. maybe Matt Smith just to make up casting numbers so that it didn't look odd that one person was covering their face?

Maybe she was just crying because she didn't want to be part of Rasillon's plans, and DT realised not all Timelords were bad, just the main man?

I don't think so. The fact that the Doctor refuses to answer when Wilf asks about her suggests to me that she's going to have a place in the Moffat era.

Cloudane · 01/01/10 - 20:14

I thought probably Susan (his granddaughter, as seen in the very first series with Hartnell)

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:15

kninemark2 wrote: »

i thought it was Donna, wilf asked who was she and then the dr looked at Donna and remained silent

Me too

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:15

Mrs Lininjim wrote: »

Was that not Rose's song playing in the background?

That's exactly what I thought and said to my wife and posted in a diff thread(one of the multituide on here)

[Deleted User] · 01/01/10 - 20:15

Yeah, I must agree, I'm thinking it was his mother too.

System · 01/01/10 - 20:17

After tonight and the way he looked at her im guessing his mother/grandmother?

theres a door open there because if she could appear for Wilf..does she have access to the outside from the timelock?

it could be a theme they will go back to..at some point you know the timelords are going to return its when not if.

claire2281 · 01/01/10 - 20:18

When Wilf asks, the Doctor looked over his shoulder and directly at Donna (the camera focused on her), so it seemed to imply that, somehow, it was her.

After all, she still has Time Lady in her somewhere.

THEHANDOFOMEGA · 01/01/10 - 20:40

Maybe it was Sally Sparrow! YES I GOT IT IN FIRST!;)

[Deleted User] · 03/01/10 - 08:56

You are partly right, It was the doctors mother. Donna is part timelord there is no reason why in the future she becomes a timelord and the doctors mother.

This would explain why she appeared to Wilf and not one of the other companions, it would explain the doctors fascination with earth and before anyone dismisses this as rubbish check out the 1996 Dr who movie where the doctor refers to himself as half human

[Deleted User] · 03/01/10 - 09:02

I wondered if it was somebody he loved or even was married to at some point. He looked at Donna in the bride's dress when asked who the lady was.

JonJonB · 03/01/10 - 09:46

Audio commentary podcast says his mother. Done.

[Deleted User] · 03/01/10 - 09:47

Because it was Rose's music playing I thought perhaps it was her as an old woman.

I like that aspect of Dr W, where not all questions are neatly answered.

LurgidBee · 03/01/10 - 10:00

JonJonB wrote: »

Audio commentary podcast says his mother. Done.

A facetious remark at best. The audi commentary also chuckled that it was the Rani picking up the master's ring in LOTTL.

Deliberate un-answered question by RTD to annoy/confuse fans as he ends his tenure. Along with who was manipulating the Ood (the white lady most likely) and why was Rassilon the president of the time lords?

Could have been anyone: his mother, the white guardian, Romana. The camera shot that focussed on Donna when the docotor did no answer Wilf's question was practically an answer in itself. A minor hint was her white outfit alluding to her role as the Bride when she first met the doctor. Again RTD did not explicitly say it, so it could still be anyone. Moffat could do anything or nothing with this. Best guess is it will be the latter.

lanners · 03/01/10 - 10:20

The best thing I can think of for Rassilon is that in a desperate attempt to win the time wars the Time Lords brought him back hoping he could help them.

[Deleted User] · 03/01/10 - 14:51

River Song??

OhWhenTheSaints · 03/01/10 - 14:58

I'm gonna go with his mother too

grunson · 03/01/10 - 21:51

RTD might have had particular ideas for who she is when first developing the story, but as it stands she is whoever future writers might wish her to be should her character ever appear again.

[Deleted User] · 03/01/10 - 22:07

My thought was that it was his mother, but I like the idea that it was Donna. It would explain how she was able to appear to Wilf and we don't know what happened to her after she blacked out. I think it was deliberately left as a puzzle, but perhaps it will be picked up in future episodes.

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