I'm glad Karen's family are being spared a trial. There was never any doubt as to what he had done. I just wish life meant whole life he should never be released he is very dangerous.
There's something very strange about the vermin's history. He attended an exclusive private school, yet was arrested, aged 20, living in a council sink housing estate and charged with forging banknotes.
Jesus, the details in that last link are horrific, what the hell is wrong with some people doing a thing like that. Poor woman and her poor family, horrendous.
This is such a horribly sad story. I wish I hadn't read that Irish Examiner link tbh.
How can a trivial argument cause someone to murder someone else? I know this isn't the first or last time it will happen but just what makes people react like this?
The details of how he tried to hide his actions are terrifying tbh, the lengths people will go to. I also feel terrible for his friend and mother who were staying in his flat at the time after reading that. Also goes to show how calculating he is. I'm only glad he admitted it now rather than dragging her poor family and friends through a long trial.
I hope the sentence is adequate and he isn't released for a long, long time.
"He also told the trial, which was heard in front of Lord Matthews, that his belt buckle had become undone as he fell in the lane, which was offered as an explanation for why he was seen adjusting his trousers in the middle of the lane after neighbouring residents had shouted at him."
His counsel Sarah Livingston describing him as a "daft young lad" - re: the attempted rape. *rolleyes*
Very odd the witnesses' evidence didn't sway the jury. Uncharitable of me, but I hope prison life is especially hellish for him. The biggest of Wing Daddies.
His counsel Sarah Livingston describing him as a "daft young lad" - re: the attempted rape. *rolleyes*
Very odd the witnesses' evidence didn't sway the jury. Uncharitable of me, but I hope prison life is especially hellish for him. The biggest of Wing Daddies.
I would assume that being a well spoken privately schooled type from a 'good' family bought him more than a few brownie points with the judge and jury.
during his trial for rape.
His retained counsel during that trial, Sarah Livingstone must be a tad distraught.
'Daft young lad' indeed, it is unbelievable he was found not guilty of that assault! He is a very dangerous man, I hope he never sees the light of day again.
Just heard Karen Buckley's father speaking outside court and I'm close to tears. Incredibly moving.
I sincerely hope that piece of s*** is destroyed in jail & rots in hell for what he did.
Does anybody know if a life sentence is mandatory in such a case in Scotland?
he will live in Fear because ' they will nail him ' and there will be no escape so i doubt he will last a Month - I would expect he will be held at HM Prison Barlinnie { where they hung Peter Manuel in 1958 - shame they dont do that any more } but they may have him on ' Rule 43 ' so I doubt if he is mingling with the other prisoners but over time they will nail him.
This is such a horribly sad story. I wish I hadn't read that Irish Examiner link tbh.
How can a trivial argument cause someone to murder someone else? I know this isn't the first or last time it will happen but just what makes people react like this?
The details of how he tried to hide his actions are terrifying tbh, the lengths people will go to. I also feel terrible for his friend and mother who were staying in his flat at the time after reading that. Also goes to show how calculating he is. I'm only glad he admitted it now rather than dragging her poor family and friends through a long trial.
I hope the sentence is adequate and he isn't released for a long, long time.
BIB: Its never the trivial argument that is the cause, just the spark if you will. Often you look into them and they have had a lot of issues and it ends up being the straw that broke the camels back. Road Rage is similar at times as well, a rather minor driving incident ends up spiraling into a roadside murder.
As controversial as it sounds, cases like this they should bring back the death penalty. This scum of the earth has confessed now he must pay the price and be executed. Sorry but this evil person has absolutely no place in society.
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I'm glad Karen's family are being spared a trial. There was never any doubt as to what he had done. I just wish life meant whole life he should never be released he is very dangerous.
R.I.P Karen Buckley.
http://www.clydebankpost.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2014/07/10/503600-drumchapel-forger-avoids-jail-for-fake-note-scam/?mode=print
https://twitter.com/irishexaminer
A detailed article on events ...
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/live-alexander-pacteau-admits-murder-of-karen-buckley-690536.html
Will he be sentenced today?
How can a trivial argument cause someone to murder someone else? I know this isn't the first or last time it will happen but just what makes people react like this?
The details of how he tried to hide his actions are terrifying tbh, the lengths people will go to. I also feel terrible for his friend and mother who were staying in his flat at the time after reading that. Also goes to show how calculating he is. I'm only glad he admitted it now rather than dragging her poor family and friends through a long trial.
I hope the sentence is adequate and he isn't released for a long, long time.
Poor woman, may she RIP
http://www.thejournal.ie/karen-buckley-family-statement-2265135-Aug2015/?utm_source=twitter_self
Does anybody know if a life sentence is mandatory in such a case in Scotland?
What an evil bastard. His actions after the murder are quite hard to describe, in how callous they are.
"He also told the trial, which was heard in front of Lord Matthews, that his belt buckle had become undone as he fell in the lane, which was offered as an explanation for why he was seen adjusting his trousers in the middle of the lane after neighbouring residents had shouted at him."
And they believed this guff?
Trying to make out he is gay as a cover-up too. What an a**e.
Very odd the witnesses' evidence didn't sway the jury. Uncharitable of me, but I hope prison life is especially hellish for him. The biggest of Wing Daddies.
I would assume that being a well spoken privately schooled type from a 'good' family bought him more than a few brownie points with the judge and jury.
during his trial for rape.
His retained counsel during that trial, Sarah Livingstone must be a tad distraught.
I sincerely hope that piece of s*** is destroyed in jail & rots in hell for what he did.
he will live in Fear because ' they will nail him ' and there will be no escape so i doubt he will last a Month - I would expect he will be held at HM Prison Barlinnie { where they hung Peter Manuel in 1958 - shame they dont do that any more } but they may have him on ' Rule 43 ' so I doubt if he is mingling with the other prisoners but over time they will nail him.
Poor girl never stood a chance. Listening to her family outside court was heartbreaking they seem like a lovely family.
Also the member of the public who remembered that Pacteau used to store fireworks at the farm - great job in coming forward to the police!
RIP young girl -
Rot in Jail - Pacteau
BIB: Its never the trivial argument that is the cause, just the spark if you will. Often you look into them and they have had a lot of issues and it ends up being the straw that broke the camels back. Road Rage is similar at times as well, a rather minor driving incident ends up spiraling into a roadside murder.
Sadly, probably the same reasons that so many guilty sex offenders walk free.
Life sentence will be the same as it's always been, with good behaviour and a pretence at remorse, he'll be out in 8 yrs, maybe 6.