Still nothing to do with independence mate, no matter how you spin it.
Its anti Scottish and pretty vile. There has been lots of accusations on this very thread of anti Englishness in this referendum and in this thread yet when asked to provide proof there is none.
I just find it strange that you've said many times here you wouldn't want to live in a country where policies might change to something worse but then tell us that your going to live somewhere that has very similar policies and are quite willing to pay taxes there etc.
2 years ain't a holiday after all and if your willing to work in a country whose social policies are in most ways worse than the current UK, then I get the impression that social inequality is far les important to you than independence.
If I was so committed to social injustice as you profess to be, I wouldn't be paying into a states coffers that stops benefits for 13 weeks if someone refuses a job.
I'm sure the snowboarding will be fun though.
This is stupid Black Sheep. It's a waste of energy and it really made me consider blocking you which despite our many arguments I've never done. However I've had enough of wasting time and energy on here so it's a goodbye from me. I'm out of here.
Its anti Scottish and pretty vile. There has been lots of accusations on this very thread of anti Englishness in this referendum and in this thread yet when asked to provide proof there is none.
I don't disagree but it's still nothing to do with independence any more than anti German tweets are.
This is stupid Black Sheep. It's a waste of energy and it really made me consider blocking you which despite our many arguments I've never done. However I've had enough of wasting time and energy on here so it's a goodbye from me. I'm out of here.
Yes, it has gotten a wee bit back and forth and so I agree it has become unnecessary and unproductive.
Please don't leave the thread though as you are about the only sensible Yes voter left here after all the idiots got banned.
I don't disagree but it's still nothing to do with independence any more than anti German tweets are.
Abuse like this seems only to be newsworthy when the media can link it to Scottish independence or directly to Alex Salmond. During Wimbledon fortnight this should be news, it most definitely would be headline news if it had been an English tennis player receiving the abuse from Scots.
"The debate over Scottish Indyref polling methodologies: Survation puts its case
By Patrick Briône Director of Research, Survation
This week Peter Kellner, President of YouGov, published an article both on YouGov’s website and in The Times newspaper, with his views on why opinion polls in Scotland by different polling companies have produced consistently divergent results on the question of the Scottish independence referendum. His argument was that YouGov’s polling in Scotland was superior to that of Survation (and other polling companies) due to other companies weighting results to 2011 vote, which he claimed was inaccurate due to an excess of core SNP voters in all our raw data and a lack of those floating voters who supported Labour in 2010 but the SNP in 2011 (and are hence more likely to be voting “No” in the referendum)."
"220 People Attend David Cameron “Rally for the Union.”
How many were invited?
Is this the same Craig Murray who quoted 20,000 at Bannockburn live on the Saturday despite it being 20,000 over the weekend (10,000 per day). I dont think the guy has any credibility left after that.
Is this the same Craig Murray who quoted 20,000 at Bannockburn live on the Saturday despite it being 20,000 over the weekend (10,000 per day). I dont think the guy has any credibility left after that.
Well, only a hundred or so turned up at the BBC last week and they tried to make it look like thousands.
They never believe a Poll unless it comes out exactly in their favour.
They never link to neutral information.
In all honesty, what will these people do all day after the referendum given that a NO vote is the most likely option?
I'm thinking about heading down to Rosyth today to watch the launch. Will be something we won't see too often again in the future and the F35 should be putting in an appearance too.
He attempts to compare a rallying cry from the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, to a protest organized by an ordinary member of the public, and even that back fires. The upshot being Joe Blogs from down the street can generate more interest in the independence referendum than the Prime Minister. This grassroots movement is what will carry the day for independence.
There is a vast difference between some keyboard warriors using a few rude words on twitter and a threat to blow up a building! I hope the Yes voters distance themselves from people like this as much as possible.
He attempts to compare a rallying cry from the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, to a protest organized by an ordinary member of the public, and even that back fires. The upshot being Joe Blogs from down the street can generate more interest in the independence referendum than the Prime Minister. This grassroots movement is what will carry the day for independence.
BBC protest was open to anyone.
David Cameron's would have been by invite...so how many were invited?
I had a person keeping a rough head count. While it is difficult to be accurate at an open event like this, there was a core of around 1,600, an additional estimated 5-600 came and went over the two hour period. The BBC reported the event and stated there was ‘several hundred’ protesters and denied any bias coverage of the referendum debate
THMS is simply a SNP drone, churning out endless links to endless biased sites without commentary or opinion.
As for the Murray thing, it's nothing at all to do with independence and everything to do with simple minded bigotry. THMS knows this but if he can link anything at all to independence then he will.
It is actually. It shows the undercurrent of opinion about Scots from the English.
Do Scots really want to share a country with people that so obviously despise them?
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Its anti Scottish and pretty vile. There has been lots of accusations on this very thread of anti Englishness in this referendum and in this thread yet when asked to provide proof there is none.
This is stupid Black Sheep. It's a waste of energy and it really made me consider blocking you which despite our many arguments I've never done. However I've had enough of wasting time and energy on here so it's a goodbye from me. I'm out of here.
I don't disagree but it's still nothing to do with independence any more than anti German tweets are.
Yes, it has gotten a wee bit back and forth and so I agree it has become unnecessary and unproductive.
Please don't leave the thread though as you are about the only sensible Yes voter left here after all the idiots got banned.
Yes posters banned from this thread? Surely not - I found them to all to be such lovely people as well, willing to engage in debate!
Abuse like this seems only to be newsworthy when the media can link it to Scottish independence or directly to Alex Salmond. During Wimbledon fortnight this should be news, it most definitely would be headline news if it had been an English tennis player receiving the abuse from Scots.
"The debate over Scottish Indyref polling methodologies: Survation puts its case
By Patrick Briône Director of Research, Survation
This week Peter Kellner, President of YouGov, published an article both on YouGov’s website and in The Times newspaper, with his views on why opinion polls in Scotland by different polling companies have produced consistently divergent results on the question of the Scottish independence referendum. His argument was that YouGov’s polling in Scotland was superior to that of Survation (and other polling companies) due to other companies weighting results to 2011 vote, which he claimed was inaccurate due to an excess of core SNP voters in all our raw data and a lack of those floating voters who supported Labour in 2010 but the SNP in 2011 (and are hence more likely to be voting “No” in the referendum)."
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"220 People Attend David Cameron “Rally for the Union.”
How many were invited?
Is this the same Craig Murray who quoted 20,000 at Bannockburn live on the Saturday despite it being 20,000 over the weekend (10,000 per day). I dont think the guy has any credibility left after that.
Well, only a hundred or so turned up at the BBC last week and they tried to make it look like thousands.
They never believe a Poll unless it comes out exactly in their favour.
They never link to neutral information.
In all honesty, what will these people do all day after the referendum given that a NO vote is the most likely option?
I'm thinking about heading down to Rosyth today to watch the launch. Will be something we won't see too often again in the future and the F35 should be putting in an appearance too.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/terror-probe-launched-after-man-3806539
Unacceptable behaviour.
gotta love the below the line comments that are mostly suggesting this was just faked by BT to make the other side look bad ...
altho expecting similar on here tbh
I never read the comments, just the article.
Maybe its the same people there that post here.
How many?
http://youtu.be/jpPceRx1dA4
Police Scotland said maximum of 350, newsnet said 2,000 so same question back to you.
How many?
He attempts to compare a rallying cry from the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, to a protest organized by an ordinary member of the public, and even that back fires. The upshot being Joe Blogs from down the street can generate more interest in the independence referendum than the Prime Minister. This grassroots movement is what will carry the day for independence.
There is a vast difference between some keyboard warriors using a few rude words on twitter and a threat to blow up a building! I hope the Yes voters distance themselves from people like this as much as possible.
BBC protest was open to anyone.
David Cameron's would have been by invite...so how many were invited?
The hilarious thing is that the Nats are claiming 2000 people at the BBC protest and surprisingly also 2000 at the Armed Forces day.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/06/bbc-bias-the-people-have-noticed/
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And they complain about bias - Its laughable
Classic case of inflate one, deflate the other to emphasize the point.
The irony is they moan about a biased media then quote their own biased sources.
It is actually. It shows the undercurrent of opinion about Scots from the English.
Do Scots really want to share a country with people that so obviously despise them?
you really think that a few idiots on twitter represent a whole country ?
How many people made comments? Whats this compared to the population of England and how does that justify your point?