chronic fatigue syndrome

paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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I`m now a 30 year old male. I have had this condition since i was 15. I had a lot of migraines when i was younger. Always ending up in hospital. I was still fine then. I was fit and healthy. Swimming, playing football ect. When i reached 15 that when i started to get poorly. I still went to school but i was more tired then ever. Concertration was going. In my final year i missed nearly the whole year expect for the final few weeks. I missed school very much. I was crying as to why i was getting so tired and weak. What was happening to me? I did go to college and worked in the coffee shop there. I always went in late because the morning was the worst. I went to 2 colleges as the year was going by i got much worse. I couldnt walk one day when i got to college. My legs gave up. I was thenn in a wheelchair till this day. I missed my young adulthood. The things i enjoyed was taken away from me. I will ask any questions you may have that i havent answered. Please share your experince about chronic fatigue syndrome. I also want to hear what other people think without this condotion. Thanks.
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  • Top Gun 001Top Gun 001 Posts: 382
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    It is all a bit of a mystery isn't it? Any tips to get throught it?
  • PretzelPretzel Posts: 7,858
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    You'd probably find better responses on a health forum, perhaps one related to your condition. There must be one out there.

    Incidentally I get migraines, I have done on and off since I was in my teens, sometimes there has been years between them ans then they're back. I had no idea that they were connected to this condition.
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    It is all a bit of a mystery isn't it? Any tips to get throught it?

    Make sure you rest at least 3 times a day for 30 minutes. eg. morning, afternoon, evening. Add a fourth at night before bed if you wish. Rest lying down on your bed and close your eyes. This will give you a bit more energy to do what you want on the day. Drink lot`s to as with this condotion you can get dehidrayted. Listen to some music you like on radio or youtube. It will make you feel at ease.
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    I have a few questions. Do the doctors know what might have caused this illness, and is there any treatment - medication, therapy or whatever - that can help relieve the symptoms?

    I suppose you're a member of a support group to share info and tips with other sufferers?
  • candyfloss2000candyfloss2000 Posts: 1,314
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    Hey man, that sucks. I get fatigue a lot, with rare bursts of energy, usually evening time. The morning is the absolute worst. However, I've never been in a wheelchair. Must suck sometimes.
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    1fab wrote: »
    I have a few questions. Do the doctors know what might have caused this illness, and is there any treatment - medication, therapy or whatever - that can help relieve the symptoms?

    I suppose you're a member of a support group to share info and tips with other sufferers?

    The doctors don`t know how i got the illness. There are some tablets which help stress and sleep that you get with chronic fatigue syndrome. I`m not a member of a support group anymore. It had to close. Please ask your doctor or go to a consultant to help you treat your condtion.
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    Hey man, that sucks. I get fatigue a lot, with rare bursts of energy, usually evening time. The morning is the absolute worst. However, I've never been in a wheelchair. Must suck sometimes.

    It does get you down. It makes you sad and angry and stressed. However you learn how to deal with this illness in time. Some days are better then others. You have to think of the postives aswell as the negatives.
  • 2shy20072shy2007 Posts: 52,579
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    pauluk wrote: »
    The doctors don`t know how i got the illness. There are some tablets which help stress and sleep that you get with chronic fatigue syndrome. I`m not a member of a support group anymore. It had to close. Please ask your doctor or go to a consultant to help you treat your condtion.

    I have had chronic fatigue for 15 years, but it is undiagnosed as my Doctors are useless, they test me, they find nothing, they offer nothing , I go away, I go back when it all gets too much, they test , the tests are clear, I go away, so I gave up trying to get a diagnosis.
    The closest I came to being diagnosed was a nurse who told me after I collapsed yet again and ended up in hospital, that she was 100% sure its what I had, but the Doctors dont want to know.
    When it first hit me I spent months unable to walk, and had to crawl to the toilet etc, it was agony and my arms and legs were so weak and painful but still nothing was diagnosed.

    Just been back last week with so many different symptoms, they tested me yet again and yet again all bloods are normal.

    I am at about 60% on the scale at the moment, having to rest lots and in a bit of pain, irregular heartbeat,complete exhaustion, brain fog bad sleep pattern etc.
    I am glad you have been diagnosed, I just wish that someone would listen to me after all these years :(
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,432
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    Been there - mine was very late onset after a lifetime of working far harder than I should at high stress levels and an exercise maniac.

    There are clinics that can help you manage it - pacing, relaxation tapes, sleep hygeine etc etc - all have an effect - but I kept on going back to work too fast.

    Currently I am not working - other than caring for an ageing mum - and that does mean that I am finally able to manage the CFS as I can rest up when I need to and maintain a status quo.

    I have to say that after about 4 years of CFS - I really did need the help of anti-depressants - depression and CFS are not the same thing - but a long term illness that cuts you off from your real life does - inevitably - drag you down.

    Right now I feel like I'm over the hump and CFS is simply an irritant - but those getting it younger are far more likely to get over it entirely.

    Do go online - do join forums - do genuinely try things that sound irrational - you will come out of this - patience, when you're young is really tough - but hang in there and celebrate the small achievements - even if that's just getting up and getting dressed.

    There's a whole host of people out there going through the same thing and it does help to share even when it's the last thing you want to do.

    I always go by the mantra - if I can do it - it will be a piece of cake for anyone else :D
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    2shy2007 wrote: »
    I have had chronic fatigue for 15 years, but it is undiagnosed as my Doctors are useless, they test me, they find nothing, they offer nothing , I go away, I go back when it all gets too much, they test , the tests are clear, I go away, so I gave up trying to get a diagnosis.
    The closest I came to being diagnosed was a nurse who told me after I collapsed yet again and ended up in hospital, that she was 100% sure its what I had, but the Doctors dont want to know.
    When it first hit me I spent months unable to walk, and had to crawl to the toilet etc, it was agony and my arms and legs were so weak and painful but still nothing was diagnosed.

    Just been back last week with so many different symptoms, they tested me yet again and yet again all bloods are normal.

    I am at about 60% on the scale at the moment, having to rest lots and in a bit of pain, irregular heartbeat,complete exhaustion, brain fog bad sleep pattern etc.
    I am glad you have been diagnosed, I just wish that someone would listen to me after all these years :(
    I`m so sorry to hear that you been let down by doctors so many times. Please ask to see a specialist. All the things you said that you feeling is exact the same as me.It is very very horrible to feel like this i know. I do hope someone makes the right diagnoses very soon. Don`t give up.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 321
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    Have you had a look at the ME Association website?
  • Stormwave UKStormwave UK Posts: 5,088
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    I also suffer from CFS/ME, for about 16 years. It tends to have varying degrees of severity, sometimes I am in bed for months. I was diagnosed officially 3 years ago.

    I believe CFS/ME is a set of symptoms on top of another causation, and the cause can differ from person to person. That is why there is no consensus as to what causes it, for everyone the cause is different.

    Much like a headache can have many causes, it doesn't mean headaches don't exist.
  • dorydaryldorydaryl Posts: 15,927
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    My GPs are beginning to think this might be the case with me after I was misdiagnosed with MS for 10 years. I was the one who pushed for a moderated diagnosis because I volunteered with people at an MS Centre and questioned why my experience was differing from the majority of others. I asked for all the initial tests to be redone (MRI, lumbar puncture, etc...) and they came back clear except for structural damage (see comment below). In some ways, I've become disillusioned because there are still people who regard CFS/ME/Fibromyalgia as 'malingering' conditions, which is incredibly unfair to those experiencing it. Becoming part of this 'diagnostic group' doesn't sit easily with me at the moment mainly because of that but I think I'm strong enough to not let it chip away at me. Living with the condition is enough of a challenge, without worrying about other peoples' judgements.
    My symptoms improved drastically following a hysterectomy but I still have migraines, severe fatigue, brain fog and joint pain (some of which is arthritis, spinal degeneration- shown on scans mentioned above).

    All you can do is try to remain positive, be accepting of the realities of your circumstances and try to work with them- pushing yourself a bit when you're feeling better, resting when you're really struggling. Small goals. Symptomatic medication but not so much that it knocks you out. Good diet, exercise where possible. Also, accept that other people might not understand and some may not take it seriously. That's their problem, not yours. Set your own limits and try not be railroaded by trying to meet others' expectations. They're not in your shoes. You are and you are the one who has to live each day.

    OP, I'm sorry it has been so debilitating for you and hope you find relief wherever you can :)
  • Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    I'm the same. I had a very serious illness in the late 90s which left me with CFS for about four years after. It sort of went away, but every now and then I can barely move my body - today being a case in point. It took me two hours to get out of bed, and once I got to work I was just slumped in my chair all day. I did manage to walk across the City at lunch time but that tired me out even more.

    Now I'm just really tired and my legs are aching.
  • NatoPMTNatoPMT Posts: 3,184
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    My mum has ME and says that Co Enzyme Q10 supplements help her fatigue
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,313
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    I have it as a freebie alongside fibromyalgia, it's loads of fun. ;)
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    dorydaryl wrote: »
    My GPs are beginning to think this might be the case with me after I was misdiagnosed with MS for 10 years. I was the one who pushed for a moderated diagnosis because I volunteered with people at an MS Centre and questioned why my experience was differing from the majority of others. I asked for all the initial tests to be redone (MRI, lumbar puncture, etc...) and they came back clear except for structural damage (see comment below). In some ways, I've become disillusioned because there are still people who regard CFS/ME/Fibromyalgia as 'malingering' conditions, which is incredibly unfair to those experiencing it. Becoming part of this 'diagnostic group' doesn't sit easily with me at the moment mainly because of that but I think I'm strong enough to not let it chip away at me. Living with the condition is enough of a challenge, without worrying about other peoples' judgements.
    My symptoms improved drastically following a hysterectomy but I still have migraines, severe fatigue, brain fog and joint pain (some of which is arthritis, spinal degeneration- shown on scans mentioned above).

    All you can do is try to remain positive, be accepting of the realities of your circumstances and try to work with them- pushing yourself a bit when you're feeling better, resting when you're really struggling. Small goals. Symptomatic medication but not so much that it knocks you out. Good diet, exercise where possible. Also, accept that other people might not understand and some may not take it seriously. That's their problem, not yours. Set your own limits and try not be railroaded by trying to meet others' expectations. They're not in your shoes. You are and you are the one who has to live each day.

    OP, I'm sorry it has been so debilitating for you and hope you find relief wherever you can :)

    Thank you so much. You are absoutley right in eveerything you just said there. Small goals is key to having a better life. It doesnt have to be exercisce. it could be baking, playing video game, playing board games or going out socialing. Not eveyone going to be understanding. Keep postive and try and make new friends where and when you can.
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    NatoPMT wrote: »
    My mum has ME and says that Co Enzyme Q10 supplements help her fatigue

    Somebody at work said the same thing. She combined hers with "pycnogenol" (sp) I believe, if memory serves. Swears by it.
  • maidinscotlandmaidinscotland Posts: 5,648
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    My husband was diagnosed with this condition last year. He has CFS/ME/Fibromalgia and he currently takes 133 tablets per week including the maximum dose of Tramadol per day which I am obviously not comfortable with but he finds thats the only thing that can get anywhere near alleviating his aches and pains (although he is never without pain). He went back to work at the end of last year on a 3 month phased return and last week started his full time hours (10 hours nightshift per night for 4 nights a week). He is finding this tough going already, there are a couple of backshift vacancies coming up in the near future and he will be applying for one of those positions instead. His Occ Health nurse is shamefully ignorant as to the severity of this condition and its symptoms, she told him he was 'lying down to it' and that there is no need for the amount of medication he is on as 'his pain isn't that bad', like she'd know!!!

    For those of you with the same condition, how much medication do you take for it?
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    My husband was diagnosed with this condition last year. He has CFS/ME/Fibromalgia and he currently takes 133 tablets per week including the maximum dose of Tramadol per day which I am obviously not comfortable with but he finds thats the only thing that can get anywhere near alleviating his aches and pains (although he is never without pain). He went back to work at the end of last year on a 3 month phased return and last week started his full time hours (10 hours nightshift per night for 4 nights a week). He is finding this tough going already, there are a couple of backshift vacancies coming up in the near future and he will be applying for one of those positions instead. His Occ Health nurse is shamefully ignorant as to the severity of this condition and its symptoms, she told him he was 'lying down to it' and that there is no need for the amount of medication he is on as 'his pain isn't that bad', like she'd know!!!

    For those of you with the same condition, how much medication do you take for it?

    I take more medication than I can count, max of tramadol at the moment too but that's not working for me. I still have days so bad I can't get out of bed. I couldn't possibly work, if I'm out for several hours, it's a wheelchair, I can't get far at all.

    I have a friend with FM and she's just the same. Sounds like his Occ Nurse is clueless to be honest. It hurts and that's that.

    ETA: Feel free to PM if you do want more info re the fibro and cfs x
  • bspacebspace Posts: 14,303
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    the solution is easy

    become working class

    it's a well known fact that the working class don't suffer from the problem


    </;)>
  • tenofspadestenofspades Posts: 12,875
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    there are some foodie people who reckon gluten has some sort of effects. Now I don't know if I believe it- but then again I have never tried it. Has anyone with fatigue experimented with that?
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    bspace wrote: »
    the solution is easy

    become working class

    it's a well known fact that the working class don't suffer from the problem


    </;)>

    Miner's daughter here, it didn't miss me out ;)
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    there are some foodie people who reckon gluten has some sort of effects. Now I don't know if I believe it- but then again I have never tried it. Has anyone with fatigue experimented with that?
    Yes they are right. As soon as i got chronic fatigue syndrome i became introlement to dairy. Wheat i suffer from to but have occasionaly. It does make you tired but have it as a treat now and again.
  • paulukpauluk Posts: 193
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    Some more infomation about chronic fatigue. With chronic fatigue you get bad flu like symptons feeling very tired everyday. Your body weak and at risk of getting infections more easily then when you were well. Conceration goes. you get a foggy head and senseative to smells. eg flowers. Your body may not agree with dairy and wheat products anymore. you have problems with memory and trying to say things. You may experince problem with walking and arms and legs being shakey. But you can control these things better by taking care of yourself. Get as much help as you can for doing things you can`t. By leading a near to normal life you need to rest as much as possible and seek medication. Don`t do everything in one day. Space it out. Have a action plan for three days of the week. These can be anything that you feel comfortable with and enjoy. Thanks for all the support. Anybody with any other information please share and those with chronic fatigue syndrome tell us your journey.
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