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To the people referring to Kellie as him/he.
DayCar
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That is so uneducated and rude. If you were (for example) male and people started referring to you as her/she I bet you wouldn't like. It's the same with Kellie, just because she was born with a male body and had to live as a male for a while, it doesn't change the fact that she's female and should therefore be referred to as her/she.
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I actually haven't seen her referred to as he/him very much at all, which is nice. Shows that the world is becoming more and more accepting and understanding of people like Kellie.
It doesn't make you thick, it just makes you a bit disrespectful.
Simply playing to the cameras and having a bit of fun with the VT.
I very much doubt she meant it literally ..
I think the ignorance shown by many about this is really quite breathtaking.
It's not really a rant is it, but as they aren't doing it to her face I'd say it's ok.
I bet most of them, if not all, would play ball if he/she were here in person and say she.
Do you know if a Kellie is post op?
They do it on purpose and there's no confusion going on, it's deliberate insensitivity.
I would say there's a good chance she's pre-op.
Thanks. I wonder how long it is that frank has been living as Kellie.
And has she discussed her likelihood of having an op, not all do.
I feel quite sad for people who feel they are a different gender and have to go through such a trial.
There is no real happy ending.
Uneducated - No
Rude - How?
He\She has children I think that a lot of people would find it difficult to understand why he\she now believes themselves to be in 'the wrong body'. In addition if I have this right he\she is pre op. That means that technically and legal he\she is still male.
Difficult subject this but I do take exception with you berating people because they 'don't get it'.
I read that she's only a few weeks into the '2 years living as female' which she needs to complete before she can even be considered for surgery.
I think that's highly unlikely.
It's not as if he can take his wig off in a week or so and shout 'nah I was just funning ya".
That would not go down well
Plus, that's an extreme practical joke.
That's reasonable.
I can live with that. :cool:
Yes, rude and uneducated. Why? Because there's nothing to 'get' - if she says she's female, then she's female. It's none of your business what she 'legally' is.
She's actually over a year into the process.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/frank-maloney-sex-change-boxing-4030910
Ah right - thanks. Well good on her then. She did seem incredibly shy last night though I don't know if this is the right thing for her at the moment but who am I to question it if she's passed the BB medics tests.
No of course not, what an odd question? Or do you just not understand that humans and cows are not the same species and so therefore no comparisons whatsoever can be made?
Transgender legislation recognises someone as being their gender of choice once they start to live their life as that gender. Being pre or post op doesn't make a difference.
And as for other people not understanding her life and the massive decision she has made, does that mean people can be disrespectful?
I do understand that a BB forum probably isn't the best place to do so, or to get proper answers, but Kellie is on BB so I think it's natural that people will discuss & wonder about her transition. After all, she wouldn't be on there in the first place only for it.
The above article in the Mirror makes everything a lot clearer regarding Kellie .
She knew she was different from a very young age but hid it until her father's death.
Kellie also said that she did not want to come out publicly as transgender for another 18 months but was exposed by a member of her support group.
For those saying she's doing it as a stunt, "Before coming out, Kellie spoke to a counsellor over the phone for about 10 years"
That's very true. My ex-husband is transgender and legally became a woman before the op. She had to wait over 2 years living as a woman and during that time underwent psychiatric evaluation and counselling before the op was agreed. Believe me, given the attitudes/nastiness of some people, no-one would steadfastly remain on the path of becoming transgender unless it was of the utmost importance to them. I've found it possible to accept my ex-husband's life-changing decision - it puzzles my why some people can'f