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Steve Wright's Love Songs show breached BBC guidelines

the teddy bearthe teddy bear Posts: 781
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Looks like the pre recording of Wrighty's Love Songs has come back to bite him on the bum :eek: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21048482
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    James30James30 Posts: 5,201
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    Why can't he get up and go in to do the show live.
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    Black LabelBlack Label Posts: 4,733
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    James30 wrote: »
    Why can't he get up and go in to do the show live.

    He could, but why would he want to when he when he can just presumably VT it in the space of, say, an hour on a Friday?

    This concept of working (i.e actually having to turn up to the place) 6 days a week is the domain of commercial radio where full time jocks like/need the extra money of the weekend show or where the station insist on it to save on budget so have it as part of a presenters' duties.

    True Batesy and Bruno did the Top 40 (and back then probably needed the extra cash too) on a Sunday as well as a weekday show but as is often pointed out, this isn't the 80s anymore.
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    ShrewnShrewn Posts: 6,854
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    He could, but why would he want to when he when he can just presumably VT it in the space of, say, an hour on a Friday?

    This concept of working (i.e actually having to turn up to the place) 6 days a week is the domain of commercial radio where full time jocks like/need the extra money of the weekend show or where the station insist on it to save on budget so have it as part of a presenters' duties.

    True Batesy and Bruno did the Top 40 (and back then probably needed the extra cash too) on a Sunday as well as a weekday show but as is often pointed out, this isn't the 80s anymore.

    Aye but Bruno didn't do Fridays. Bates used to do loads, he'd pop up as a newspaper reviewer on Tv-am, do voiceovers for ITN, do bits on Radio 4 and those video announcements
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    FM LoverFM Lover Posts: 50,841
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    I thought it was pretty obvious that the show is pre recorded but guess that was not the impression a lot of people got.

    Personally I don't think the show is VT'd as Steve constantly sings along with the songs played so I think it's a pre record rather that a VT

    Steve never asks anyone to text in, the way to contact the show is by phone to a voicemail service, e mail or by post. If he had invited people to text then it might have stood up more of an argument.

    Graham Norton's show over Christnas was pre recorded but no announcements were made and every week he invites texts but the weeks he wasn't live there was no announcements not to text.

    Paul O Grady is usually pre recorded, again no announcements are made. In fact the only time that I have heard presenters inform the listeners that the shows are recorded and not to text is Tony on POTP and Dermot O Leary.

    Not quite sure why Steve's show was picked on specifically, a more general announcement should be made at the start of any pre record that normally invites listener participation.
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    Mapperley RidgeMapperley Ridge Posts: 9,922
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    FM Lover wrote: »

    Graham Norton's show over Christnas was pre recorded but no announcements were made and every week he invites texts but the weeks he wasn't live there was no announcements not to text.

    Paul O Grady is usually pre recorded, again no announcements are made. In fact the only time that I have heard presenters inform the listeners that the shows are recorded and not to text is Tony on POTP and Dermot O Leary.

    Not quite sure why Steve's show was picked on specifically, a more general announcement should be made at the start of any pre record that normally invites listener participation.

    It was "picked on" because a listener complained to the BBC Trust, which has to investigate. You make a fair point about Graham Norton and Paul O Grady, although as Sunday Love Songs is essentially a request/dedication show there would be a greater expectation among the listeners that (a) their emails would be acted on/read out (b) their song might be played.

    I've not heard much of Paul O Grady, but Norton's features (Grill Graham, I Can't Believe It's Not Better, Tune With A Tale) are essentially about one listener, rather than many.

    However, I suspect that a memo will be going around the producers after this, reminding them of the need to make pre-recorded "interactive" features more "clearly signposted".

    It really is no big deal, but a complaint is a complaint.
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    FM LoverFM Lover Posts: 50,841
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    I've not heard much of Paul O Grady, but Norton's features (Grill Graham, I Can't Believe It's Not Better, Tune With A Tale) are essentially about one listener, rather than many.

    Grill Graham is a light hearted feature about someone's problem that they need advice on. Graham & Maria actively encourage listeners to text or e-mail in their views. This feature was run on his pre-recorded shows over Christmas (December 22nd & December 29th) yet there was no announcement about not texting or e-mailing that I'm aware of.

    In fact I often text in my views on the I Can't Believe It's Not Better slot and I did so on December 22nd not realising the show was not live.

    The only thing that tends to give away Graham's show as being live is his interaction with travel reporter Bobbi Prior who has bulletins in the live shows but not on pre-records.
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    radioanorakradioanorak Posts: 4,247
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    Most of Radio Two's daily output is pre recorded
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    Ramsay LaddersRamsay Ladders Posts: 3,017
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    Most of Radio Two's daily output is pre recorded

    Really?:rolleyes:
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    thelockupthelockup Posts: 215
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    Most of Radio Two's daily output is pre recorded

    "text us now on 88291 and we will read them out tomorrow!"
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    AL89AL89 Posts: 2,170
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    breahces listening guidelines, bring on the Ed Stewart request show, or Annie Nightingale request show.
    oooops sorry neither are on TV silly me
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    Robbie01Robbie01 Posts: 10,434
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    Most of Radio Two's daily output is pre recorded
    During the day, no it isn't, apart from Steve Wright, who pre-records many of his features. The evening specialist shows, most likely. The overnight shows aren't though.
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    ShrewnShrewn Posts: 6,854
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    AL89 wrote: »
    breahces listening guidelines, bring on the Ed Stewart request show, or Annie Nightingale request show.
    oooops sorry neither are on TV silly me

    I used to like Aspel on a Sunday morning, but I hear he's not been too well
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    thelockupthelockup Posts: 215
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    Robbie01 wrote: »
    During the day, no it isn't, apart from Steve Wright, who pre-records many of his features. The evening specialist shows, most likely. The overnight shows aren't though.

    except the old mike harding show, its now live with mike, ooops, sorry mark radcliffe
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    FM LoverFM Lover Posts: 50,841
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    Most of Radio Two's daily output is pre recorded

    Absolute nonsense!
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    pjexpjex Posts: 9,401
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    Shrewn wrote: »
    Aye but Bruno didn't do Fridays. Bates used to do loads, he'd pop up as a newspaper reviewer on Tv-am, do voiceovers for ITN, do bits on Radio 4 and those video announcements

    Yes, he did, Brunod was on early brekfast 5 days a week in the 90s and then did the chart.
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    ShrewnShrewn Posts: 6,854
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    pjex wrote: »
    Yes, he did, Brunod was on early brekfast 5 days a week in the 90s and then did the chart.

    Oh yes i'd forgotten he did early breakfast
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    occyoccy Posts: 65,180
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    James30 wrote: »
    Why can't he get up and go in to do the show live.

    Cause he goes to the US for weekends.
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    Ramsay LaddersRamsay Ladders Posts: 3,017
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    Peaktime weekend shows on the most listened to network in the UK should not be prerecorded.
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    occyoccy Posts: 65,180
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    The Chart was always done live with Bruno on a Sunday. Steve Wright likes to be talked about on the websites. :D
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    mine's a pintmine's a pint Posts: 784
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    AL89 wrote: »
    breahces listening guidelines, bring on the Ed Stewart request show, or Annie Nightingale request show.
    oooops sorry neither are on TV silly me

    Hearing an Ed Stewart request show on a weekly basis in that slot would be more listenable.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 127
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    The illusion is shattered if you make silly deadlines for shows... Lincs FM tweeted the other week asking for requests to be in on Friday for Andy Marsh's Love Zone going out on Sunday. Some shows can be automated - these with listener interaction cannot and therefore suffer.
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    FM LoverFM Lover Posts: 50,841
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    Peaktime weekend shows on the most listened to network in the UK should not be prerecorded.

    Yes I agree.

    At the moment live shows at the weekend are mainly on a Saturday, it's only Sounds of the 60's that's on a pre record.

    Sundays is different but at least we will get a new live show on Sunday evenings with Michael Ball starting this week.

    During the week there is only a couple of hours that isn't live, I don't regard Steve Wright in the Afternoon a recorded show as he's in the studio, it's just the interviews and factoids that a recorded in advance.
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    lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    I don't really see why it is a problem on a programme like his Sunday morning one, it seems just an excuse for a bit of BBC knocking by someone and of course jumped on by the Daily Mail.

    I tend to listen to Cerys Matthews on 6Music on a Sunday morning, she usually does the programme live but it is sometimes recorded which she says at the start of the programme.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 200
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    FM Lover wrote: »

    During the week there is only a couple of hours that isn't live, I don't regard Steve Wright in the Afternoon a recorded show as he's in the studio, it's just the interviews and factoids that a recorded in advance.

    I thought it was a pre-record, but that they just had to say that about the interviews etc as otherwise they might be deceiving listeners that X is really live in the studio? Someone told me he pre-records the afternoon shows in their entirety anyway :D
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    Thine WonkThine Wonk Posts: 17,190
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    I thought it was a pre-record, but that they just had to say that about the interviews etc as otherwise they might be deceiving listeners that X is really live in the studio? Someone told me he pre-records the afternoon shows in their entirety anyway :D

    No, he doesn't. He only pre-records certain junctions, interviews and sections.

    Also he'll spend a considerable amount of time recording the weekend show. It's recorded as much for quality as it is for convenience. It isn't your 'record it in 1 hr' UKRD style as some other poster suggested, an awful lot of work would go into it.

    Steve will be in a long time before and after the weekday show prepping, planning and recording bits. During the week he will also be working on the recording of the weekend show. He will work effectively a full day, and therefore it's good that the weekend show is recorded to give him the weekend off.
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