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How do you solve a problem like Daybreak?

southladsouthlad Posts: 1,140
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According to the ratings thread Daybreak yesterday had a very low 607k (14.7%) viewers.

It seems every Daybreak relaunch has lost viewers.

Adrian and Christine were averaging 700-900k.
Kate and Dan were averaging 700-800k
Aled and Lorraine averaging 600-700k

Am I right in thinking they can't just ditch the show and replace it with repeats or kids TV because they the licence means they have to broadcast news?

Surely the show can't carry on for much longer with viewing figures like that?
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    ThrasymachusThrasymachus Posts: 2,496
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    Get rid of it and replace it with repeats of Dancing on Ice
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    They've tried everything, new editors, presenters etc
    The only answer

    Bring in Clare Balding !
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    mrmattybeckmrmattybeck Posts: 1,697
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    Can't stand the new presenters and Richard Arnold makes it 100 times worse
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    sarahj1986sarahj1986 Posts: 11,305
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    Bring back GMTV - Fiona and Eamonn!!
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    omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,822
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    Replace Lorraine and Aled with Matt and Ranvir from the newshour. They have a good chemistry and seem to be well liked.
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    grumpyscotgrumpyscot Posts: 11,354
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    Just get rid of brown-nosing, patronising, inane-giggling Lorraine.
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,389
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    Cancel it, and show cartoons in the morning, which would be cheaper and less annoying.
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    Nattie01Nattie01 Posts: 1,658
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    Replace Lorraine and Aled with Matt and Ranvir from the newshour. They have a good chemistry and seem to be well liked.

    Seconded. I usually turn over at 7.00. Unless Matt or Ranvir are filling in on the main show.
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    shandersshanders Posts: 5,907
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    drop all the interminable competitions (they won't - they're only interested in making money).

    stop all the items about other ITV output - Dancing On Ice, X Factor, I'm A Celeb etc etc
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    shanders wrote: »
    drop all the interminable competitions (they won't - they're only interested in making money).

    stop all the items about other ITV output - Dancing On Ice, X Factor, I'm A Celeb etc etc
    They wouldn't have much of a programme left then! ;)
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    LW09LW09 Posts: 3,301
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    Replace Lorraine and Aled with Matt and Ranvir from the newshour. They have a good chemistry and seem to be well liked.

    It's a shame Helen Fospero doesn't have much of a role either. She just appears when Ranvir isn't in which isn't often.

    The problem with Daybreak, like GMTV before it, is that its stuck in the past. The original Daybreak was a step forward and although viewers didn't initially take to it, that particular period of Daybreak remains the most watched. Once Adrian & Christine left, they started to take the show backwards and the latest relaunch complete with the GMTV logo, music, presenters and set just sums up their attitude towards breakfast TV.

    Editorially the 6-7am slot was brilliant at the time of relaunch (although has yet again regressed to the previous format). If they continued that format until 8am, then from 8-9.30am had Lorraine doing all the fluffy stuff then ITV would eventually be on to a winner.
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    southladsouthlad Posts: 1,140
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    According to press reports ITV have struggled to find shows for Christine Bleakley to present... maybe they should put her back on Daybreak with Dan Lobb?

    If they get rid of Aled I wonder what he'll do after giving up his Radio 2 show and Songs of praise for Daybreak?
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    shandersshanders Posts: 5,907
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    southlad wrote: »
    According to press reports ITV have struggled to find shows for Christine Bleakley to present... maybe they should put her back on Daybreak with Dan Lobb?

    If they get rid of Aled I wonder what he'll do after giving up his Radio 2 show and Songs of praise for Daybreak?

    she should present those ITV Casino/bingo types shows at 3am in the morning...
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Dan Lobb was presenting table tennis the other day on Sky Sports.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,488
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    Get rid of Lorraine. Totally, no Lorraine show either.

    Bring back Dan and share presenting equally between Aled, Dan, Ranvir, Helen, Kate, Matt and a new female presenter. More news and less middle aged women ( i.e Lorraine) leering over boy bands and talking and acting like they are 16.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    shanders wrote: »
    she should present those ITV Casino/bingo types shows at 3am in the morning...

    Apparently her contract with ITV is up in a few months and it's unlikely to be renewed. Makes you wonder why they threw millions at her in the first place as viewers clearly haven't taken to her.
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    SentenzaSentenza Posts: 12,114
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    Rat fans know what would improve it. :D
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    tinkerbell987tinkerbell987 Posts: 1,848
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    reverting back the the GMTV set was a huge mistake. i liked the original daybreak set, that is the one thing they really should have kept. Helen should have a bigger role. She's a good presenter, I don't understand why they don't use her more. I don't mind Aled but I have only had very small doses of him, probably about 10 mins at a time. Change the format its all so predictable & so GMTV. Haven't seen Randir & Matt together but anything would be better than Lorraine.
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    BluesTrainRadioBluesTrainRadio Posts: 990
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    I am sure Lorraine is a lovely person but I have just had enough of her in the mornings I'm afraid. She has to go and the 'Lorraine' spot has to go as well, its ridiculous to name it that when she often isn't even there.

    I actually quite like Aled, he has settled in nicely enough and, yes, I still don't mind Kate! I would agree that Matt and Ranvir are very good, although I rarely see them as I usually only watch between maybe 7.45-8.30. Helen is also a great presenter and should be a main anchor, she is miles better than Lorraine. And on a personal level, Louisa James should be on all day long!

    For me, the main issue is their over use of celebrities and boybands that no-one my age cares about. I don't want heavy news in the morning, so a mix of main stories and a bit of fluff is fine but I really do not want to see the likes of Rylan and Louis whats-his-face prancing around when I am waking up. Although strangely, Richard Arnold isn't too bad, I have no idea why.

    The idea above about making the main news hour into a two hour slot, 6-8, would be great. I would then bring in a feature based section, keep the paper review but make it longer, tell us about what's on the telly [ but not just reality shows ], tell us about the sport. Keep laura Tobin, she's cute. Bring back the first Daybreak set as well, I liked to see out the window, it was much nicer, even if it is London!
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    southladsouthlad Posts: 1,140
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    reverting back the the GMTV set was a huge mistake. i liked the original daybreak set, that is the one thing they really should have kept. Helen should have a bigger role. She's a good presenter, I don't understand why they don't use her more. I don't mind Aled but I have only had very small doses of him, probably about 10 mins at a time. Change the format its all so predictable & so GMTV. Haven't seen Randir & Matt together but anything would be better than Lorraine.

    Aleds constant jokes and looking away from the camera to the crew for approval is annoying. Like many have said, Matt and Ranvir would be more watchable for the main show.
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    eliza2355eliza2355 Posts: 57
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    Its nice to see John Stapleton too, he does a good job. bring back Dan and they should put Lorraine on later as it used to be ,, trouble is the worse it all got ,the more people switched to other things and they may never return
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    DODS11DODS11 Posts: 2,026
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    Just be a news show. It's essentially E! with some current affairs shoved in when they can actually be bothered. It's incredibly jarring and patronising.
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    tubzy2001tubzy2001 Posts: 1,129
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    It will only get better if GMTV returned with Penny, Ben, Andrew, Kate, Emma, Helen etc
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    Westy2Westy2 Posts: 14,525
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    Keep Laura Tobin & sod the rest :)
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    Steve9214Steve9214 Posts: 8,406
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    southlad wrote: »
    According to press reports ITV have struggled to find shows for Christine Bleakley to present... maybe they should put her back on Daybreak with Dan Lobb?

    If they get rid of Aled I wonder what he'll do after giving up his Radio 2 show and Songs of praise for Daybreak?

    personally, I think Aled is a likely contender for host of Strictly when Brucie decides to go (or cannot do it any more).
    He is a "family" type of presenter, liked by old people, tolerated by younger.

    He just lacked the necessary Live TV experience to be put into big, Live, entertainment shows.
    He has now got this from doing Daybreak.

    As a career move on his part (or his agent) it is a masterstroke, the big money from ITV compensates for losing his BBC gigs. However he should be able to breeze back into those sorts of jobs if and when he gets canned from Daybreak.
    Plus his sacking will be seen as "unfair" so he will garner a lot of sympathy.
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