iPlayer catchup window to be extended to 30 days
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/statements/bbc-iplayer-thirty-days.html
Good news, was a struggle to justify it being 7 days.
Good news, was a struggle to justify it being 7 days.
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But welcome all the same.
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Tiptoes away quietly before the usual suspect get wind of it.....
the 30 option can be for other things one offs and very short series that only have 2-3 episodes in, or the whole series gets shown in 1 week.
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/our_work/on_demand/2014/thirty_day_assessment.pdf
** For example, those comprising single episodes and continuous or long-running series.
^^ The Series Stacking restriction is explained here:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/our_work/on_demand/2014/mediatique_on_demand.pdf
There's plenty of food for thought in that second document compiled by Mediatique Ltd for the BBC.
It says 69% of survey respondents were unaware of or had not used series stacking (including me!) so with the excellent extension to 30 days for all programmes, I think it is something we can do without.
But for me, by far the most useful method of viewing BBC TV programmes on catch-up is the 2 hour rolling chase-play that's available on their 'live TV' section of the BBC website. I use that often and every day and I wish they would extend it to radio as well, and perhaps add an hour ot two to the existing 2 hours. It's quite simply a brilliant idea and I take my hat off to whoever developed and agreed it.
Which was quite correctly held back whilst current cases were going through the courts. To my knowledge, that included charges relating to Dave Lee Travis.
ETA:
From the Dame Janet Smith Review website:
http://www.damejanetsmithreview.com/updates/
And an update from today:
Betjemanland was pulled down after 7 days - BBC4 show. The Two Amigos is gone from iPlayer as well and those are only two of the most recent shows I`ve gone looking for. Series are treated differently and have been for some time so it`s nothing new to be able to watch New Tricks, Our Zoo etc in one go. I did Happy Valley in the same way. Shouldn`t be bits that are and bits that aren`t - 30 days for everything is what was promised by the Summer. Other broadcasters manage it without fanfare so why are the Beeb STILL dragging their feet after making more promises they have failed to keep?
They`ll always find a reason to hold it back. I`ll put money on it not being published this year.
And I don't think that the BBC said that it would apply to all programmes from day one either.
From April:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/statements/bbc-iplayer-thirty-days
Note that final sentence, especially the words "roll this out from this summer", which implies a gradual and phased rollout.
It is also likely that some films and sports will not be part of this 30-day window, again due to rights issues.
So avoiding prejudicing on-going court cases is not a legitimate reason? Or would you prefer any such cases to be declared mistrials, and for potentially guilty people to walk free? Because that's what would happen.,
BTW, there was only this delay over the Summer because the Jury failed to agree on two of the charges against DLT earlier in February, thus leading to a retrial this month. No-one could have foreseen that happening. And it was only the 25th July that the retrial ruling was made by the judge.
You`re guessing in order to defend the BBC. No surprise there but don`t try and dress it up as anything else.
And where is the rollout? Other than cosmetic changes to cater to five year olds on tablets I see no difference in the iPlayer now compared to 6 months ago. They`ve done diddly squat and you know it but again, you`re in default BBC mode as per.
Report is delayed nearly a year now and will be delayed further because as far as the BBC is concerned the longer the gap the less damaging it is for them. That and they can get a nice bonfire going out back.
Your defence of them come what may is now comical. Read this post with my laughter as the soundtrack.
But since you seem to be closed to any reasoned discussion, preferring instead to offer barbed personal comments in an aggressive manner, I have nothing else to add.
*sigh* the rollout of the 30 day window, as per the context of both your original post and the context of my replies here.
I am reading your post and shaking my head in disbelief at your reply here.
Scroll back through the seventh and the eighth of September on the BBC site and see how little there is available beyond that 7 day window. Other than some series, and a couple of odds and sods, which would`ve been similarly available 6 months back there`s nothing on iPlayer.
Where is the rollout you reckon has started because I don`t see any sign of it at all?
When it is it will be for the vast bulk of programming at once (though I'm sure there will be rights exemptions - I wouldn't have thought much Sport or Acquisitions would be available for thirty days, and those don't tend to be available for that long on ITV Player or 4OD either).
There is some speculation on Twitter (with some vague BBC allusions but no outright confirmation) that the BBC were trying to roll out thirty days to Radio as a first phase when iPlayer went down a month or so back, and hence it has been pushed back a little to do technical work to make sure that doesn't happen again.
They actually said they had extended it to 30 days and just in case rolled it back to 7 days on one of the Radio 4 Feedback programme(s) after the iPlayer outage and indeed running get iplayer just before the outage I did get a show that was more than 7 days old
Mossy`s uncharacteristically quiet isn`t he? Choking down some humble pie I reckon.....
Don't take it as me agreeing with your point - software development can't be an exact science, and it's much more important for a rollout to be good than it is for it to be on time. It'll be ready when it's ready.
This sort of moaning is what blocks companies from being precise about release dates :-(
What "software development"? Leaving stuff up for 30 days instead of 7 hardly strikes me as reinventing the wheel particularly seeing as certain series already last for 30 days with some other stuff being available for months and even a year+. Let`s not forget the original 7 day limitation was an entirely arbitrary figure anyway and one long since ignored by ITV, C4 and most others.
Genius. That`s the sort of attitude that saw £100m+ pissed up the wall on DMI.
"Summer" the sort of thing that qualifies as "precise" in your book is it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/iplayer-30-days