Thanksgiving in the UK

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  • TrollHunterTrollHunter Posts: 12,496
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    Thanksgiving is soooooo 2013.
    Now it's all about celebrating Diwali, Oktoberfest, Australia Day and Norwegian Constitution Day.

    Feliz carnaval!!!
  • epicurianepicurian Posts: 19,291
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    Moggio wrote: »
    You like the idea of celebrating the annihilation of an entire population of native people?

    Doesn't sound like something worth celebrating to me.

    You do know many Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving, right? Where on earth do people get their ideas? The day has never had anything to do with the slaughter of First Nationers.

    Thanksgiving Proclamation http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/thanks.htm
  • omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,816
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    'Wintry mix' is becoming more common in the UK. I've heard the BBC use the term on several occasions, here's an example online:

    https://twitter.com/bbcweather/status/276877983057342464
  • seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Am I wrong in thinking that " Thanksgiving" is the American version of our Harvest Celebrations?
  • thewaywardbusthewaywardbus Posts: 2,738
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    The decorated Christmas tree is a German idea, so I suppose there's no automatic harm in adopting other nations' customs. It does seem a bit one-sided at times though:

    Santa Claus replaced Father Christmas
    Halloween is now about dressing up and trick or treat and pumpkins
    Children now have an American-style prom when they leave school
    Flipping the bird replaced flicking the Vs
    Disney's Pooh replaced E. H. Shepard's drawings
    We have ass for arse; gridlock for traffic jam; power outage for power cut; wintry mix for sleet

    Any more?


    The name Santa Claus is a derivitive of St Nicholas, nothing to do with the Americans!
  • DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    'Wintry mix' is becoming more common in the UK. I've heard the BBC use the term on several occasions, here's an example online:

    https://twitter.com/bbcweather/status/276877983057342464

    It seems to be "a wintry mix of..." there rather than a substitute for 'sleet'. Would make more sense, in any case. Just "a mix of..." with a descriptor.
  • ChristopherJChristopherJ Posts: 976
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    The name Santa Claus is a derivitive of St Nicholas, nothing to do with the Americans!

    Yes, it has its origin in Europe, as does much of American culture – gotten, for example, is in the King James Bible. But it's the influence of the American Santa Claus which is the reason why children here now tend to speak of Santa rather than Father Christmas.
  • solenoidsolenoid Posts: 15,495
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    Thanksgiving was originally an English Protestant tradition.
  • walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,849
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    kiviraat wrote: »
    One of my friends and her family celebrate thanksgiving for some reason. I've never understood why! They're Scottish with no connection to America other than going to Orlando every few years.

    Not that different to the millions of atheists and agnostics who celebrate Christmas.
  • walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,849
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    trevgo wrote: »
    Not the American version it's not. Even my American friends think it's the most ludicrous "sport" ever invented. It's why one is a manic Liverpool supporter!

    Yet it's the most popular sport in a country with 300m inhabitants.
  • trevgotrevgo Posts: 28,241
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    Yet it's the most popular sport in a country with 300m inhabitants.

    The same inhabitants who race cars that only turn left ;-)
  • walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,849
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    trevgo wrote: »
    The same inhabitants who race cars that only turn left ;-)

    Yeah that's them. Funnily enough the few people who've driven Formula One and Nascar generally say that Nascar is much harder.
  • maggie thecatmaggie thecat Posts: 2,241
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    Actually wintery mix and sleet are too different things. (At least as far as I understand.) Sleet is not quite snow. Wintery mix is a combination of freezing rain, sleet and snow. In otherwords , it's when Mother Nature can't make up her mind so you get all the variations of cold precipitation at once.

    Thanksgiving IS the American harvest festival. The revisionist 'Europeans are all imperialist scum' have tried very hard to make it about something else over the last couple of decades, but it always has, since its inception, been about celebrating family, friends and a fruitful harvest. Now that we're a less agrarian society it's become a bit about football and the ramp up to the Christmas shopping season, but I suppose everything evolves.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,535
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    We actually used to celebrate thanksgiving in the UK centuries ago. it was a dinner of thanks that was celebrated for Harvest, most Protestant Christian countries celebrated it, it was brought to the US by Pilgrim settlers from England.

    It's funny bc in the UK we used to call taps, faucets many centuries ago but now it's considered a US word.
  • MoggioMoggio Posts: 4,289
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    Yeah that's them. Funnily enough the few people who've driven Formula One and Nascar generally say that Nascar is much harder.

    Only because driving left constantly for hours drives you insane.
  • ChristopherJChristopherJ Posts: 976
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    Actually wintery mix and sleet are too different things. (At least as far as I understand.) Sleet is not quite snow. Wintery mix is a combination of freezing rain, sleet and snow.

    Thanks, so it's not an exact equivalent of sleet. I don't remember hearing it before a couple of years ago, where WINTRY MIX was also on the weather map.
  • walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,849
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    Moggio wrote: »
    Only because driving left constantly for hours drives you insane.

    Yeah that's exactly it. I always judge my countries by what sports they compete in.
  • maggie thecatmaggie thecat Posts: 2,241
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    Thanks, so it's not an exact equivalent of sleet. I don't remember hearing it before a couple of years ago, where WINTRY MIX was also on the weather map.

    'Wintery mix' is really common where I live. The cold fronts and the wet almost never coincide but they brush past each other. Which is a good thing because otherwise we'd have snow from November to March. Blech!
  • Paradise_LostParadise_Lost Posts: 6,454
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    Yes, it has its origin in Europe, as does much of American culture – gotten, for example, is in the King James Bible. But it's the influence of the American Santa Claus which is the reason why children here now tend to speak of Santa rather than Father Christmas.

    It is true that much of the modern iconography of Father Christmas/Santa originates from the US. Clement Clarke Moore, Haddon Sundblom, and Thomas Nast being largely responsible. The US seems to have imported most of its Christmas traditions from the continent because the English puritans didn't celebrate it at all! :o
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 970
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    I'm all for Thanksgiving in the UK, whats not to like about turkey and a day or 2 off.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,535
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    It is true that much of the modern iconography of Father Christmas/Santa originates from the US. Clement Clarke Moore, Haddon Sundblom, and Thomas Nast being largely responsible. The US seems to have imported most of its Christmas traditions from the continent because the English puritans didn't celebrate it at all! :o

    This is not surprising they weren't just colonised by the UK, they were colonised by many different European nations at the time who set up footholds in all parts of the US to stake a claim of US soil. The French in Louisiana e.g.
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