obama education

captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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finance college and university places in return for millitary service .

at 16/17 ,school leavers get this option life on the line in return for what others can afford , teens taken off the street taught dicipline and learn life skills ,

personally i think he is as mad as a hatter but would such a
policy work in the uk .
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  • AWESOMESAUCE!AWESOMESAUCE! Posts: 407
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    No. It might have worked a few years ago, but the slack attitude of today's society in the UK is unlikely to change now.
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    No. It might have worked a few years ago, but the slack attitude of today's society in the UK is unlikely to change now.

    more and more people in the uk are apreciating freedom more despite big brother trying to suppress it or because of the big brother factor .
    as individuals we need to stand for the rights of ourselves and others to choose our path in life and not let goverment dictate it through finacial pressure .
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    No. It might have worked a few years ago, but the slack attitude of today's society in the UK is unlikely to change now.

    Sorry, but what has 'slack attitude of today's society' got to do with Tuition fees in exchange for Military service?

    As far as I know this is nothing new in America and they've been exchanging service for college fees for years.

    Our military are pushing the fact that being in the Armed forces isn't just about the frontline, there are many other roles involved.
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    captncool wrote: »
    more and more people in the uk are apreciating freedom more despite big brother trying to suppress it or because of the big brother factor .
    as individuals we need to stand for the rights of ourselves and others to choose our path in life and not let goverment dictate it through finacial pressure .

    Oh forget it, I can't be arsed deciphering what you're on about or asking a series of questions until I find out what your point is.
    Too much like talking to one of my Daughters, as I say to them
    'Cut to the chase'
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    Oh forget it, I can't be arsed deciphering what you're on about or asking a series of questions until I find out what your point is.
    Too much like talking to one of my Daughters, as I say to them
    'Cut to the chase'

    simply walk away then or cant you control the basic urge to post and be heard .
  • SystemSystem Posts: 2,096,970
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    Well i've known people who have joined the armed forces in this country and got themselves degrees paid for by the forces, so it can work.
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    humphryb wrote: »
    Well i've known people who have joined the armed forces in this country and got themselves degrees paid for by the forces, so it can work.

    and travel and tourism has benifitted enormously:D
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    humphryb wrote: »
    Well i've known people who have joined the armed forces in this country and got themselves degrees paid for by the forces, so it can work.

    Didn't know we did that over here too, any further information on how it works?

    Joining the military, providing you can get into the right specialisation that can be transferred to civvy street, it
    could be a good career move for some people.
  • thecreepingmessthecreepingmess Posts: 3,070
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    Sounds a bit Starship Troopers-ish to me.

    Would you like to know more?
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    Didn't know we did that over here too, any further information on how it works?

    Joining the military, providing you can get into the right specialisation that can be transferred to civvy street, it
    could be a good career move for some people.

    its a rootin tootin patriotic thing to do .
  • SystemSystem Posts: 2,096,970
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    Didn't know we did that over here too, any further information on how it works?

    Joining the military, providing you can get into the right specialisation that can be transferred to civvy street, it
    could be a good career move for some people.

    Not sure how it works exactly, but I know people have come out with allsorts of qualifications, not just in preparation for Civvy street. It maybe because of the wide range of jobs in the army and tasks they carry out.

    Edit- here's a link
    http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/benefits/education/Pages/default.aspx
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    humphryb wrote: »
    Not sure how it works exactly, but I know people have come out with allsorts of qualifications, not just in preparation for Civvy street. It maybe because of the wide range of jobs in the army and tasks they carry out.

    Edit- here's a link
    http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/benefits/education/Pages/default.aspx

    the mod has similar entrance exams to universities etc when it comes to the better trades so what difference would that make to someone who couldnt pass entrance exam in civvy street regarding similar qualifications in the mod .
    isnt it slightly misleading to give give the impression of a engineering qualification via army when they couldnt get in to college in civvy street to obtain it .
  • SystemSystem Posts: 2,096,970
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    captncool wrote: »
    the mod has similar entrance exams to universities etc when it comes to the better trades so what difference would that make to someone who couldnt pass entrance exam in civvy street regarding similar qualifications in the mod .

    If they can't cope with the exams then it's no point them going for Uni, even if they had the money in the first place they'd most likely get turned down or fail.
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    humphryb wrote: »
    If they can't cope with the exams then it's no point them going for Uni, even if they had the money in the first place they'd most likely get turned down or fail.




    so you must agree that offering similar opertunities via millitary service makes no sense or is misleading .
  • SystemSystem Posts: 2,096,970
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    captncool wrote: »
    so you must agree that offering similar opertunities via millitary service makes no sense or is misleading .

    Maybe slightly, I don't know how induction into the forces goes and getting into education, but perhaps if there isn't already, there could be an initial assessment to say whether a person would be able to satisfy the criteria then if successfull they could enrol, rather then joining up only to find they're not suitable for the course.
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    humphryb wrote: »
    Maybe slightly, I don't know how induction into the forces goes and getting into education, but perhaps if there isn't already, there could be an initial assessment to say whether a person would be able to satisfy the criteria then if successfull they could enrol, rather then joining up only to find they're not suitable for the course.


    if we ever adopt a similar policy( hope not it reeks of trickery) i hope they make it crystal clear .
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    captncool wrote: »
    the mod has similar entrance exams to universities etc when it comes to the better trades so what difference would that make to someone who couldnt pass entrance exam in civvy street regarding similar qualifications in the mod .
    isnt it slightly misleading to give give the impression of a engineering qualification via army when they couldnt get in to college in civvy street to obtain it .

    Where are you getting this 'misleading' impression that you can get a qualification in the military when you couldn't pass the college entrance exams?

    I thought the trade off here was military service for money/tuition fees.
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    Where are you getting this 'misleading' impression that you can get a qualification in the military when you couldn't pass the college entrance exams?

    I thought the trade off here was military service for money/tuition fees.

    what are you on about .
  • fraserafrasera Posts: 8,271
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    wrong forum
  • Rugby RoseRugby Rose Posts: 13,228
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    captncool wrote: »
    what are you on about .

    If you could go first that would be grand. ;)
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    Rugby Rose wrote: »
    If you could go first that would be grand. ;)

    is there a secret code or language at work here i dont understand lol .
  • Rugby RoseRugby Rose Posts: 13,228
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    captncool wrote: »
    is there a secret code or language at work here i dont understand lol .

    Precisely. :p
  • captncoolcaptncool Posts: 3,702
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    whats all this cloak and dagger stuff about .
    a pointer would be good .
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    captncool wrote: »
    what are you on about .
    captncool wrote: »
    the mod has similar entrance exams to universities etc when it comes to the better trades so what difference would that make to someone who couldnt pass entrance exam in civvy street regarding similar qualifications in the mod .
    isnt it slightly misleading to give give the impression of a engineering qualification via army when they couldnt get in to college in civvy street to obtain it .

    Where is this misleading information coming from, do you have a link to whatever it is you've read about the MOD.

    As an aside, you've answered your own OP as this already happens here, to a degree as we've seen from the link.
    It doesn't seem to be a big a part for the recruiting campaign over here though.
    In the States they'll actively go out looking for Teenagers at Malls and try and recruit them using the College tuition fees as selling point.

    Do you have a link to exactly what Obama said on this point btw?
  • Rugby RoseRugby Rose Posts: 13,228
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    captncool wrote: »
    whats all this cloak and dagger stuff about .
    a pointer would be good .

    I'll spell it out. I have no idea what the heck you are on about in your opening post and your subsequent ones aren't much clearer either. I just thought it was ironic that you were asking a poster who was conscise and clear in his well written posts what he was on about. ;)
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