Mumford and Sons are one of the VERY few "rock" acts. I think they are boring. They are only popular because of their counter-demographic market (People who don't listen to generic pop music)
Lawson aren't really rock, they are just a boyband that play instruments. A Pop band.
Fun are just a one-hit wonder Power-Pop band.
Ben Howard is becoming popular for the same reason Mumford and Sons became popular.
Fun have done more than one hit.
Lawson "are a boyband playing instruments" How do you call that ????? A pop/rock band. I dont care if it's boys or girls playing.
Danced up ? You mean uptempo ? Kelly is not doing electro or dance.
If you want it to be about trends then be it : Mumford and sons, Lawson, Ben Howard, Fun, etc... and all those girls from the acoustic scene on youtube or elsewhere do pop/rock.
Go to Wikipedia and search for Kelly Clarkson's chart hit "Stronger".
On the right of the page next to GENRE you will see:
Pop/rock - Dance-Pop - Electropop.
So Kelly is doing Electro and Dance, but I still love her
That's not what Amelia is doing right here. Amelia is doing pure electro. For me that's not her. I have never seen her do on that the X factor and again it does not showcase her vocal abilities like a pop/rock song would.
That's not what Amelia is doing right here. Amelia is doing pure electro. For me that's not her. I have never seen her do on that the X factor and again it does not showcase her vocal abilities like a pop/rock song would.
We know Amelia has the ability to do pop/rock and do it very well.
But if Amelia wants to survive in today's music market then she has to be trendy. The electropop suits her, and she is more than capable of doing it.
Go back to my previous and prove me that pop/rock is not "trendy".
Again ? Coldplay, Muse, Lawson, Mumford and Sons, Ed Sheeran, Fun, etc..
When Norah Jones did Jazz, it was not trendy at all and she has been very successful so it's not a matter of trend. Really not..
Coldplay - Established Fanbase Muse - Established Fanbase Lawson - The only "pretty" pop/rocky band around. (Hence the boyband remark) Mumford and Sons - Only appeal to alternative and older audiences. Ed Sheeran - Glorified Busker/Acoustic Pop and writes "recession" music. Fun. - Power Pop and one hit wonders
Norah Jones could actually sing JAZZ, so appealed to a particular demographic, there was just a gap in the market for her as a new-age Jazz singer. But she's had her day now...
My point is the overall GENRE in the music industry today is dance/pop. With a few exceptions. Eg Taylor Swift.
But Taylor Swift is in a different Pop/Rock league from Amelia. Taylor dosen't have a "big" exciting voice like Amelia has, infact, the overall vocals in the airwaves today is pretty laid-back, we're not ready for the "energetic shouty vocals".
Do you remember that Pop/Rock band Paramore ??
That's the kind of Pop/Rock Amelia should make soon
When I say rock being "trendy" am talking about the era of music in the UK from 2004 - 2008 when new wave rock took over, You had Indie Rock, Indie Pop, Piano Pop, Alternative Rock, Britpop. :cool: (Paramore were in their prime)
To the above post, I agree completely. But I still disagree with electropop being the latest thing. It's trending ONLY because it's being shoved down our throats. It's not as if that's what people want to listen to, it's as if people are being forced to listen to it. It's like once you listen to Scream and Shout a few times and someone says it's good then you instinctively think of the music with that impression. A few more people tell you it's great and then you think it's trendy and so you buy it. That's exactly how electropop has caught on.
No one actually likes it because people want songs that they can sing with themselves. They would look like a right pillock if they were singing Scream and Shout in the street. However, if they sang Someone like You then nobody would care because it's something that people can sing. Sorry for the verbose explanation. But that's the only reason electropop is trendy. It's not because people want to hear it but because they're forced to hear it. That's why bands and artists who don't follow the trend of electropop are doing so well; people crave artists like Coldplay, Adele, Taylor Swift, Emeli and Kelly Clarkson.
To the above post, I agree completely. But I still disagree with electropop being the latest thing. It's trending ONLY because it's being shoved down our throats. It's not as if that's what people want to listen to, it's as if people are being forced to listen to it. It's like once you listen to Scream and Shout a few times and someone says it's good then you instinctively think of the music with that impression. A few more people tell you it's great and then you think it's trendy and so you buy it. That's exactly how electropop has caught on.
No one actually likes it because people want songs that they can sing with themselves. They would look like a right pillock if they were singing Scream and Shout in the street. However, if they sang Someone like You then nobody would care because it's something that people can sing. Sorry for the verbose explanation. But that's the only reason electropop is trendy. It's not because people want to hear it but because they're forced to hear it. That's why bands and artists who don't follow the trend of electropop are doing so well; people crave artists like Coldplay, Adele, Taylor Swift, Emeli and Kelly Clarkson.
Amelia should stick to what she did best. :mad:
The new wave of Dance/Pop and Electropop was started by Lady Gaga back in 2008 when she released "Just Dance".
Electropop will always have it's demographic, "Scream and Shout" is a floor-filler.
But "You Bring Me Joy" one can actually singalong to.
And I think Amelia does the electro thing well
It's only a matter of time before she's the new Paramore :cool:
Yeh, I think it's best Amelia makes a quick buck from the lastest dance/pop trend then invest in pop/rock later on, she may even become a pioneer as the UK's answer to Kelly Clarkson !!!
And she is now supporting Girls Aloud on thier reunion tour
I reckon AL will be gone long before any changes in the market - her first record did well for a couple of weeks, her second record didnt break the Top 10 and disappeared after 2 weeks. Can see her being dropped - she is not really popstar material.Think that she is one of a number of people picked up by various labels (inc Syco), that want to make a quick buck from (whilst the X factor promotion is still just in the memory) before any memories run out.
The new wave of Dance/Pop and Electropop was started by Lady Gaga back in 2008 when she released "Just Dance".
Electropop will always have it's demographic, "Scream and Shout" is a floor-filler.
And I think Amelia does the electro thing well
It's only a matter of time before she's the new Paramore :cool:
I hope so. I just hope the album has sort of stuff she did on the XF. I mean I just fell in love with her singing Since You've been Gone, ET (amazing!), Piece of My Heart, You and I (with that wonderful twist in the chorus), River Deep Mountain High (she looked and sounded so classy), and then China in Your Hand! I didn't even know China in Your Hand before but like Kelly said now I do! She was amazing doing her pop/rock thing. And I'm a Lily always but I want her to do that stuff again. With those charged, amazing vocals. YMBJ and SU were alright but not the Lily I know and love.
We don't need Gaga or Katy Perry when we have acoustic Amelia.
I reckon AL will be gone long before any changes in the market - her first record did well for a couple of weeks, her second record didnt break the Top 10 and disappeared after 2 weeks. Can see her being dropped - she is not really popstar material.Think that she is one of a number of people picked up by various labels (inc Syco), that want to make a quick buck from (whilst the X factor promotion is still just in the memory) before any memories run out.
The Saturdays have had singles that didn't break the top 10 but they didn't end up getting dropped did they? I think xenomenia wouldn't have sent her to LA to shoot the video for the next single if they didn't believe she was no longer a massive priority.
I hope so. I just hope the album has sort of stuff she did on the XF. I mean I just fell in love with her singing Since You've been Gone, ET (amazing!), Piece of My Heart, You and I (with that wonderful twist in the chorus), River Deep Mountain High (she looked and sounded so classy), and then China in Your Hand! I didn't even know China in Your Hand before but like Kelly said now I do! She was amazing doing her pop/rock thing. And I'm a Lily always but I want her to do that stuff again. With those charged, amazing vocals. YMBJ and SU were alright but not the Lily I know and love.
We don't need Gaga or Katy Perry when we have acoustic Amelia.
Yeh, I think it's best Amelia makes a quick buck from the lastest dance/pop trend then invest in pop/rock later on, she may even become a pioneer as the UK's answer to Kelly Clarkson !!!
And she is now supporting Girls Aloud on thier reunion tour
The Saturdays have had singles that didn't break the top 10 but they didn't end up getting dropped did they? I think xenomenia wouldn't have sent her to LA to shoot the video for the next single if they didn't believe she was no longer a massive priority.
Good point
and Amelia supporting Girls Aloud on their reunion tour should keep the momentum going.
Vash, you said she should make pop/rock soon. Why not now ?
You also said Lady gaga started the electropop trend which is true but Justin Timberlake was the first in the noughties to add electronic sounds to RnB/Pop with the help of Timbaland.
The Saturdays have had singles that didn't break the top 10 but they didn't end up getting dropped did they? I think xenomenia wouldn't have sent her to LA to shoot the video for the next single if they didn't believe she was no longer a massive priority.
Sorry, but I think comparing the Saturdays with AL is like comparing a real diamond ring with a cubit zirconum. They have a track record - AL does not.
Sorry, but I think comparing the Saturdays with AL is like comparing a real diamond ring with a cubit zirconum. They have a track record - AL does not.
Lol I don't. The Saturdays have really gone downhill and if we're talking in terms of vocals Amelia trumps over all of them.
Sorry, but I think comparing the Saturdays with AL is like comparing a real diamond ring with a cubit zirconum. They have a track record - AL does not.
At last ! I was waiting for someone to talk about cubit zirconum.
Let's drop this "Amelia is a rock musician" - no she's not and she never was. She is first and foremost a Popstar with abit of a rocky influence.
Secondly, it seems people are saying it's gonna flop simply because they don't like the track. It has and always will do come down to radio play. If Capital and Radio 1 get on this, then she'll have a hit, if not, it'll be another Shut Up for Amelia Lily.
Thirdly, maybe she likes the music she's making? Perhaps she's moved on from that X-Factor sound as it was massively predictable and a little dated. Lastly, I love the snippet, very current and contemporary! Look forward to hearing the full song.
Thirdly, maybe she likes the music she's making? Perhaps she's moved on from that X-Factor sound as it was massively predictable and a little dated. Lastly, I love the snippet, very current and contemporary! Look forward to hearing the full song.
Let's drop this "Amelia is a rock musician" - no she's not and she never was. She is first and foremost a Popstar with abit of a rocky influence.
Secondly, it seems people are saying it's gonna flop simply because they don't like the track. It has and always will do come down to radio play. If Capital and Radio 1 get on this, then she'll have a hit, if not, it'll be another Shut Up for Amelia Lily.
Thirdly, maybe she likes the music she's making? Perhaps she's moved on from that X-Factor sound as it was massively predictable and a little dated. Lastly, I love the snippet, very current and contemporary! Look forward to hearing the full song.
Nobody is saying that spaceoddity. We're saying she did pop rock. I personally don't mind the electropop route she's going down but seriously don't you think it's a bit generic and a bit common? Didn't her fans become her fans because of the way she did the covers on the XF? Shouldn't she therefore not stray too far from what she was doing?
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Fun have done more than one hit.
Lawson "are a boyband playing instruments" How do you call that ????? A pop/rock band. I dont care if it's boys or girls playing.
Ed Sheeran ? Muse ? Coldplay ? Come on !
Go to Wikipedia and search for Kelly Clarkson's chart hit "Stronger".
On the right of the page next to GENRE you will see:
Pop/rock - Dance-Pop - Electropop.
So Kelly is doing Electro and Dance, but I still love her
Most pop acts today are incorporating dance-pop/electro-pop elements in today's music market.
It's trendy :cool:
and Kelly does the rock chick thing better than Gaga.
We know Amelia has the ability to do pop/rock and do it very well.
But if Amelia wants to survive in today's music market then she has to be trendy. The electropop suits her, and she is more than capable of doing it.
Again ? Coldplay, Muse, Lawson, Mumford and Sons, Ed Sheeran, Fun, etc..
When Norah Jones did Jazz, it was not trendy at all and she has been very successful so it's not a matter of trend. Really not..
Coldplay - Established Fanbase
Muse - Established Fanbase
Lawson - The only "pretty" pop/rocky band around. (Hence the boyband remark)
Mumford and Sons - Only appeal to alternative and older audiences.
Ed Sheeran - Glorified Busker/Acoustic Pop and writes "recession" music.
Fun. - Power Pop and one hit wonders
Norah Jones could actually sing JAZZ, so appealed to a particular demographic, there was just a gap in the market for her as a new-age Jazz singer. But she's had her day now...
My point is the overall GENRE in the music industry today is dance/pop. With a few exceptions. Eg Taylor Swift.
But Taylor Swift is in a different Pop/Rock league from Amelia. Taylor dosen't have a "big" exciting voice like Amelia has, infact, the overall vocals in the airwaves today is pretty laid-back, we're not ready for the "energetic shouty vocals".
Do you remember that Pop/Rock band Paramore ??
That's the kind of Pop/Rock Amelia should make soon
When I say rock being "trendy" am talking about the era of music in the UK from 2004 - 2008 when new wave rock took over, You had Indie Rock, Indie Pop, Piano Pop, Alternative Rock, Britpop. :cool: (Paramore were in their prime)
Can U remember ??
No one actually likes it because people want songs that they can sing with themselves. They would look like a right pillock if they were singing Scream and Shout in the street. However, if they sang Someone like You then nobody would care because it's something that people can sing. Sorry for the verbose explanation. But that's the only reason electropop is trendy. It's not because people want to hear it but because they're forced to hear it. That's why bands and artists who don't follow the trend of electropop are doing so well; people crave artists like Coldplay, Adele, Taylor Swift, Emeli and Kelly Clarkson.
Amelia should stick to what she did best. :mad:
The new wave of Dance/Pop and Electropop was started by Lady Gaga back in 2008 when she released "Just Dance".
Electropop will always have it's demographic, "Scream and Shout" is a floor-filler.
But "You Bring Me Joy" one can actually singalong to.
And I think Amelia does the electro thing well
It's only a matter of time before she's the new Paramore :cool:
I think this argument is kind of irrelevant.
I reckon AL will be gone long before any changes in the market - her first record did well for a couple of weeks, her second record didnt break the Top 10 and disappeared after 2 weeks. Can see her being dropped - she is not really popstar material.Think that she is one of a number of people picked up by various labels (inc Syco), that want to make a quick buck from (whilst the X factor promotion is still just in the memory) before any memories run out.
I hope so. I just hope the album has sort of stuff she did on the XF. I mean I just fell in love with her singing Since You've been Gone, ET (amazing!), Piece of My Heart, You and I (with that wonderful twist in the chorus), River Deep Mountain High (she looked and sounded so classy), and then China in Your Hand! I didn't even know China in Your Hand before but like Kelly said now I do! She was amazing doing her pop/rock thing. And I'm a Lily always but I want her to do that stuff again. With those charged, amazing vocals. YMBJ and SU were alright but not the Lily I know and love.
We don't need Gaga or Katy Perry when we have acoustic Amelia.
The Saturdays have had singles that didn't break the top 10 but they didn't end up getting dropped did they? I think xenomenia wouldn't have sent her to LA to shoot the video for the next single if they didn't believe she was no longer a massive priority.
Yeh, I think it's best Amelia makes a quick buck from the lastest dance/pop trend then invest in pop/rock later on, she may even become a pioneer as the UK's answer to Kelly Clarkson !!!
And she is now supporting Girls Aloud on thier reunion tour
http://www.mtv.co.uk/news/girls-aloud/375810-girls-aloud-amelia-lily-tour-support
Good point
and Amelia supporting Girls Aloud on their reunion tour should keep the momentum going.
You also said Lady gaga started the electropop trend which is true but Justin Timberlake was the first in the noughties to add electronic sounds to RnB/Pop with the help of Timbaland.
Sorry, but I think comparing the Saturdays with AL is like comparing a real diamond ring with a cubit zirconum. They have a track record - AL does not.
Lol I don't. The Saturdays have really gone downhill and if we're talking in terms of vocals Amelia trumps over all of them.
At last ! I was waiting for someone to talk about cubit zirconum.
Secondly, it seems people are saying it's gonna flop simply because they don't like the track. It has and always will do come down to radio play. If Capital and Radio 1 get on this, then she'll have a hit, if not, it'll be another Shut Up for Amelia Lily.
Thirdly, maybe she likes the music she's making? Perhaps she's moved on from that X-Factor sound as it was massively predictable and a little dated. Lastly, I love the snippet, very current and contemporary! Look forward to hearing the full song.
Me too
Nobody is saying that spaceoddity. We're saying she did pop rock. I personally don't mind the electropop route she's going down but seriously don't you think it's a bit generic and a bit common? Didn't her fans become her fans because of the way she did the covers on the XF? Shouldn't she therefore not stray too far from what she was doing?