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Judges Overscoring Pamela, Underscoring Gavin
Styker
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They've done this tonight and last week, whats the fuss with Pamela? Last week the opening part of her dance was not sharp at all and none of them picked that up.
They always have their favouirtes though that they overscore in every series and underscore on others.
They always have their favouirtes though that they overscore in every series and underscore on others.
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Tonight he deserved 8's at the very least and yet was scored low with 6's and 7's.
Gavin is rubbish - let's not let his looks cloud our judgement.
Jimi isn't quite as good as I hoped he would be. He's very much 'in the second tier' - the top four (Pamela, Scott, Matt and Kara) are miles ahead of him.
I certainly didn't anticipate how good Pamela would be. While her tango wasn't as theatrical as Felicity's for example, technically it was superb.
I feel Felicity is the one whose being overmarked. And Michelle on tonight's effort - but I guess they're just being kind to her (because of being in the bottom two and Brendan not being around).
I think Kara was marked quite harshly as she had brilliant technique and acted her way through the dance. I think it's the routine rather than Kara that fell a bit flat, as it was less frantic and pure slapstick than the others.
Couldn't agree more.
... and as for Gavin; dreadful, cocky little boy.
The fuss with Pamela is that she is one of the best dancers. Gavin is dreadful by comparison - I actually thought his marks were incredibly generous tonight.
I agree with you, and I wanted Gavin to do well tonight, but he didn't. Why is Pamela singled out as the one overmarked. Her tango seemed competent and she didn't get the highest score.
Pamela is not over marked in my opinion, she danced superbly. Though her dance wasn't my favourite tonight, personal choice, but I felt the music was a let down for her tango.
As for Gavin, I think the marks are just about right. There was some improvement in him this week, but he didn't do himself any favours by talking himself up – his slight improvement would have had more impact had he not let his ego get in the way by talking himself up all week.
Tonight, though, I saw Pamela look less composed and she was struggling in places. But was this picked up on by the judge? Nope. They just keep dishing out praise and high marks for the woman.
Gavin, though, was marked adequately.
Kara and Jimi both deserved an extra mark or two. And Michelle and Patsy a mark less (I really like Patsy but she was quite laboured in her Charleston).
Spot on comment. He really thinks he is very special but unfortunatly he has the personality of a houseplant
She is not as good as that. Matt yes, Scott and Kara yes but their previous training has helped them no doubt but for me no doubt Pamela definetly overscored.
Gavin got a 3 last week off Craig, that was crazy underscoring. As for him being cocky, he's quiet as a mouse and it was him that dumped Church I believe.
On Jimi, he's another one who's moves are not sharp enough. Craig was right on him being like the scarecrow in the the wizard of oz, he meant his looseness and not being sharp when he should be etc.
Jimi's attitude and how he doesn't take criticism well is not going down well with me either, you see how he made out to walk off early? Every week he's shown signs of dissent when he gets not evebn critical comments but just points on what he's doing wrong.
Maybe he thinks that ebcause he was in that "dancing film" the guru that he should get more praise? Can't remember if he did much dancing in that film though, Heather Graham was pretty good in it and afterwards in promoting the film, didn't see much of him in the promo and I did like the guy before this, still do but he's putting me off a bit.
Gavin was overmarked. I do like him but that tango was not good
I have seen more personality in a plank of wood than I have seen in him in the last 4 weeks - I feel sorry for Katya, she must be nearing the end of her tether by now
Why do people keep on bringing personality into it? Its called Strictly Come DANCING not personality! :rolleyes:
Mind you, Ann's divertionery tactics seemed to have paid off yet again!
I totally agree. I thought Pamela's tango was shakey in places, but that wasn't reflected in the judges marks.
Kara especially I thought was undermarked, I thought she was quirky and ditsy and surely that fits the whole Charleston theme perfectly.
I think Patsy's great, but her Charleston seemed kind of heavy legged to me.
But each dance has it's own unique flavour. And yet Gavin approaches each dance with the same expression and emtoion.
Personality and character are at the heart of dancing, whatever the official name of the show.
And that may be where the trouble lies.;)
I posted that many time last year but was told it was about entertainment NOT dancing :eek: so I have given up. It hurts less if you just relax and go with it
The tango is a serious dance, most of them dance with the same expressions, they are the way they are.
People just seem to have taken a dislike to him without any real reason and are pooh poohing him off the back of that. Pamela was given 9's last week and this week and it wasn;t worthy of that high a mark at all.