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Birmingham is a no go area to non-Muslims (apparently)

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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Places such as Handsworth, Alum Rock and Sparkbrook certainly are no go areas for non muslims.

    non muslims live in those places so how can it be a no go area for non muslims

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum_Rock,_Birmingham
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    non muslims live in those places so how can it be a no go area for non muslims

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum_Rock,_Birmingham

    Tell that to a Hindu friend of mine who forced out of Alum Rock by those nice friendly Muslims

    Incidentally the school mentioned in that article was one of the Trojan Horse schools
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    I lived there for 25 years, and have had several bad experiences along with lots of other people who have lived there.

    More than half of my Birmingham family are mixed race and from different religious backgrounds, who integrate easily. Muslims don't simple as that.

    That's just another sweeping statement.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    paul2307 wrote: »
    Tell that to a Hindu friend of mine who forced out of Alum Rock by those nice friendly Muslims

    that is awful but doesn't mean that every single muslim in alum rock is responsible does it
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    WinterLilyWinterLily Posts: 6,305
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    I lived there for 25 years, and have had several bad experiences along with lots of other people who have lived there.

    More than half of my Birmingham family are mixed race and from different religious backgrounds, who integrate easily. Muslims don't simple as that.

    That was your experience - it is not mine. However, it does not make your experience any less valid.

    However, you cannot assume all Muslims are the same.

    I do not know Birmingham at all. My experience is of north west England. Born & bred here - very proud of my Lancastrian origins.

    I do not see it waning in anyway whatsoever. I also understand why Muslims should be proud of their heritage as well. They are Muslim & British.
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    that is awful but doesn't mean that every single muslim in alum rock is responsible does it

    It did involve a fair few of them , by they way I have just added a bit to my last post about the school mentioned in that article as being one of the Trojan Horse schools
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    WinterLilyWinterLily Posts: 6,305
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    paul2307 wrote: »
    It did involve a fair few of them , by they way I have just added a bit to my last post about the school mentioned in that article as being one of the Trojan Horse schools

    This still does not change the fact that, according to the article there are non-Muslims who live there so it cannot possibly be a no-go area for non-Muslims.
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    jenziejenzie Posts: 20,821
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    naw
    he made a simple mistake

    birminghan is full of black people
    BRADFORD is where all the muslins are
    :D
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Places such as Handsworth, Alum Rock and Sparkbrook certainly are no go areas for non muslims.

    I lived in Handsworth. And that ^^^^^ is nonsense.
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    WinterLily wrote: »
    This still does not change the fact that, according to the article there are non-Muslims who live there so it cannot possibly be a no-go area for non-Muslims.

    Did you read the article and look at the nationalities mentioned ? predominantly Pakistani and then we have Somali (Muslim) Bosnian guess what religion , I don't go from Wiki I go from it being three mile away from me
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    ConcretepigsyConcretepigsy Posts: 1,933
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    I lived in Handsworth. And that ^^^^^ is nonsense.

    No it's not
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    paul2307 wrote: »
    Try reading the article :confused: but if thats all you get from it then you must have comprehension difficulties

    The actual figures from the 2011 census has non Whites at 30% for that particular ward

    Are you telling me that the Castle Rock area according to that article isn't 90% white? The figure was close to the end. I certainly read the whole thing. Pretty badly written as well.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    No it's not

    I lived there. It's utter nonsense.
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    Are you telling me that the Castle Rock area according to that article isn't 90% white? The figure was close to the end. I certainly read the whole thing. Pretty badly written as well.

    Castle Vale not Rock the 90% came from the person being interviewed the figures I gave came from the 2011 census
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    ConcretepigsyConcretepigsy Posts: 1,933
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    I lived there. It's utter nonsense.

    So did I
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    paul2307 wrote: »
    Castle Vale not Rock the 90% came from the person being interviewed the figures I gave came from the 2011 census

    The figure came from the article you linked to. Apols if I got the name wrong. Bet it's Stephen King.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    So did I

    By your own logic it's not a no-go area for non-Muslims. We both lived there and we're both not, hence it's not a no-go area.
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    The figure came from the article you linked to. Apols if I got the name wrong. Bet it's Stephen King.

    Yes and the person being interviewed was just a normal man in the street yet you seem surprised that he didn't know the exact demographic make up of the area :confused:
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    paul2307 wrote: »
    Yes and the person being interviewed was just a normal man in the street yet you seem surprised that he didn't know the exact demographic make up of the area :confused:

    I haven't seemed surprised at all. What gives you that idea? All it says is that according to his perception, it's even whiter than it officially is. Not a great proof point of a no-go area.
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    MrQuikeMrQuike Posts: 18,175
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    By your own logic it's not a no-go area for non-Muslims unless you're a Muslim. We both lived there and we're both not, hence it's not a no-go area.

    Completely black and white. Clear cut tick in the box. I'll wager there's not a "no go" zone in the entire world. Even that German journalist Jürgen Todenhöfer, traveled to Mosul and spent time there so that's not a no-go zone for westerners - or non-muslims either.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    MrQuike wrote: »
    Completely black and white. Clear cut tick in the box. I'll wager there's not a "no go" zone in the entire world. Even that German journalist Jürgen Todenhöfer, traveled to Mosul and spent time there so that's not a no-go zone for westerners - or non-muslims either.

    I'll bet the 11 bus runs through it as well.
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    Skyclaw726Skyclaw726 Posts: 2,931
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    Just want to point out that the woman interviewing the moron who said birmingham is a muslim city is a judge..a ****ing judge ya know people who are meant to have some measure of intelligence..
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    I haven't seemed surprised at all. What gives you that idea? All it says is that according to his perception, it's even whiter than it officially is. Not a great proof point of a no-go area.

    I suspect you wouldn't be overly concerned if Birmingham were 100% muslim though.
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    jenziejenzie Posts: 20,821
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    Skyclaw726 wrote: »
    Just want to point out that the woman interviewing the moron who said birmingham is a muslim city is a judge..a ****ing judge ya know people who are meant to have some measure of intelligence..

    we are talking about fox news here, their intelligence is measured in their skirt length .....
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