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    The GathererThe Gatherer Posts: 2,723
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    Hestia wrote: »
    A propos absolutely nothing: did anyone else watch BBC 4's documentary on Top of the Pops 1979 on Friday night (just watched it on iplayer)? There was a bit where the acts were all talking about how they used to try to get into the BBC club and bar but they used to have uniformed commissionaires to stop them, while showing a photo of an example of said commissionaire during the voice-over.

    Except that it was William Russell from 'An Adventure in Space and Time'! Ooops!

    Not "oops" at all, deliberately done.
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    mrprossermrprosser Posts: 2,283
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    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)
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    ioioosioioos Posts: 72
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    I didn't know Ncuti was going to edited in. Doctor Who, forever moving forward. That hit me in the feels.
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    Col87Col87 Posts: 5,946
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    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    I think a better idea would be Susan is in fact the Daughter of Jenny ( it makes sense since is the Doctors doctor) and we see an episode of Susan as a baby been left in the 1940s.
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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,392
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    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,392
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    Col87 wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    I think a better idea would be Susan is in fact the Daughter of Jenny ( it makes sense since is the Doctors doctor) and we see an episode of Susan as a baby been left in the 1940s.

    That wouldn't make much sense.

    Susan was the Doctor's granddaughter a very long time in his and her personal timeline before Jenny was ever created, and she wouldn't be left as a baby in the 40's, because she didn't grow up in that time period. She'd come from Gallifrey with the Doctor. It's mentioned multiple times how they both come from another world, and even that they've been travelling in time and space for a little while at least prior to meeting Ian and Barbara.
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    RobertSterlingRobertSterling Posts: 398
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    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
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    stocklenstocklen Posts: 4,746
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    edited 24/11/23 - 10:22 #634
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/
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    mrprossermrprosser Posts: 2,283
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    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!
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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,392
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    edited 24/11/23 - 17:00 #636
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification, and then I was confused why you acted annoyed at a simple question.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.
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    stocklenstocklen Posts: 4,746
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    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.

    you are very welcome.
    I got an unwarranted mauling myself this morning from someone who obviously got out of bed the wrong side in the spoilers thread... hey ho.
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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,392
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    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.

    you are very welcome.
    I got an unwarranted mauling myself this morning from someone who obviously got out of bed the wrong side in the spoilers thread... hey ho.

    I see in the still in the link you posted, he's in the brown leather jacket look. Obviously a lot of production people prefer that look ( as I do) to the orange and brown suit look.
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    stocklenstocklen Posts: 4,746
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    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.

    you are very welcome.
    I got an unwarranted mauling myself this morning from someone who obviously got out of bed the wrong side in the spoilers thread... hey ho.

    I see in the still in the link you posted, he's in the brown leather jacket look. Obviously a lot of production people prefer that look ( as I do) to the orange and brown suit look.

    It was interesting and totally unexpected.

    I had no intention of a rewatch and when I saw people mentioning it on Twitter I sought it out... funnily enough last night at least the Adventure in Space and Time was still not part of the 'Whoniverse' section - even though its been sneakily updated.

    I thought it was lovely to see. Now some people are moaning Matt Smith's "removal" but I dont see it that way at all.
    The programme is a dramatisation of the genesis of Dr Who - and when it was made, it was to celebrate 50 years of the show. Matt's appearance illustrated the show was in safe hands and continually goes on into the future....

    Now it's 10 years later and we have reached the 60th milestone. Nothing in life should be taken for granted and its amazing the show endures but of course thats down to constant change - and to update the 'anniversary' celebration to demonstrate that at 60 years old the show is still going strong is lovely to see. Ncuti quite rightly now fills the ceremonial role that Matt Smith originally performed.
    (they could have done Tennant as of course Gatwa hasnt yet taken over the role but im glad they didnt).
    (oh and technically at the 50th they could have had Capaldi appear but he was still a long time from his debut so not quite the same)
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    daveyboy7472daveyboy7472 Posts: 16,456
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    stocklen wrote: »
    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.

    you are very welcome.
    I got an unwarranted mauling myself this morning from someone who obviously got out of bed the wrong side in the spoilers thread... hey ho.

    I see in the still in the link you posted, he's in the brown leather jacket look. Obviously a lot of production people prefer that look ( as I do) to the orange and brown suit look.

    It was interesting and totally unexpected.

    I had no intention of a rewatch and when I saw people mentioning it on Twitter I sought it out... funnily enough last night at least the Adventure in Space and Time was still not part of the 'Whoniverse' section - even though its been sneakily updated.

    I thought it was lovely to see. Now some people are moaning Matt Smith's "removal" but I dont see it that way at all.
    The programme is a dramatisation of the genesis of Dr Who - and when it was made, it was to celebrate 50 years of the show. Matt's appearance illustrated the show was in safe hands and continually goes on into the future....

    Now it's 10 years later and we have reached the 60th milestone. Nothing in life should be taken for granted and its amazing the show endures but of course thats down to constant change - and to update the 'anniversary' celebration to demonstrate that at 60 years old the show is still going strong is lovely to see. Ncuti quite rightly now fills the ceremonial role that Matt Smith originally performed.
    (they could have done Tennant as of course Gatwa hasnt yet taken over the role but im glad they didnt).
    (oh and technically at the 50th they could have had Capaldi appear but he was still a long time from his debut so not quite the same)

    If I remember rightly there was a lot of debate whether Matt Smith should have been in that scene at all.

    I didn’t mind it but it did feel out of context with the real life tale being told.

    🙂
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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,392
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    edited 24/11/23 - 19:19 #641
    stocklen wrote: »
    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.

    you are very welcome.
    I got an unwarranted mauling myself this morning from someone who obviously got out of bed the wrong side in the spoilers thread... hey ho.

    I see in the still in the link you posted, he's in the brown leather jacket look. Obviously a lot of production people prefer that look ( as I do) to the orange and brown suit look.

    It was interesting and totally unexpected.

    I had no intention of a rewatch and when I saw people mentioning it on Twitter I sought it out... funnily enough last night at least the Adventure in Space and Time was still not part of the 'Whoniverse' section - even though its been sneakily updated.

    I thought it was lovely to see. Now some people are moaning Matt Smith's "removal" but I dont see it that way at all.
    The programme is a dramatisation of the genesis of Dr Who - and when it was made, it was to celebrate 50 years of the show. Matt's appearance illustrated the show was in safe hands and continually goes on into the future....

    Now it's 10 years later and we have reached the 60th milestone. Nothing in life should be taken for granted and its amazing the show endures but of course thats down to constant change - and to update the 'anniversary' celebration to demonstrate that at 60 years old the show is still going strong is lovely to see. Ncuti quite rightly now fills the ceremonial role that Matt Smith originally performed.
    (they could have done Tennant as of course Gatwa hasnt yet taken over the role but im glad they didnt).
    (oh and technically at the 50th they could have had Capaldi appear but he was still a long time from his debut so not quite the same)

    I have the DVD so I didn't think there was anything I'd gain from watching on bbc4's schedule. They should have advertised there was a change to it.

    I see it has now been added to iPlayer, so I'll have to give the scene a look.

    I quite like the idea of updating it for each anniversary. It could become a new tradition, and of course it's not really 'removing' Matt Smith when those physical copies of the original still exist.

    stocklen wrote: »
    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Why would you consider it to be a joke?
    mrprosser wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Is this true or just a joke?

    Yeah, I just thought I'd revive a 10 year old thread to add that the BBC had digitally added the latest Doctor to the last scene for fun!

    Woah, what's with all the attacking from asking a simple question.

    I was aware that it was being repeated, but I assumed it was just a simple repeat and nothing more. I was not aware that scene was being updated, so @mrprosser when you posted what you did ( which contained more than just the mention of that scene) I was interested at the prospect that the scene had been updated, but then, because it was surprising to hear that they had done this without any prior announcement that I had heard, I wondered if you were actually saying something true, or if it was just a joke at the expense of people who hadn't bothered to watch the airing, so I just asked for clarification.


    stocklen wrote: »
    mrprosser wrote: »
    Quick revival as this was repeated tonight.... I did like the way Ncuti was added to the last scene pretty seamlessly.

    Also having watched this reconstruction and some of the early episode on iPlayer this week I really do think that the Doctor needs to travel back (or forward) to the early 2200s to see how Susan and David got on and survived (maybe tied in to the Doctor instinctively knowing that Carol's Susan is close to her first regeneration and returns to support her) chuck in some Daleks and bish, bash, bosh and instant hit (or miss lol)

    Is this true or just a joke?

    go to iplayer, search for Adventure in Space and Time - which looks like th 10 year old version..... and fwd to the end....

    :wink:

    oh, and this
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45932610/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-adventure-space-time/

    Thankyou @stocklen for an informative answer to my simple question.

    you are very welcome.
    I got an unwarranted mauling myself this morning from someone who obviously got out of bed the wrong side in the spoilers thread... hey ho.

    I see in the still in the link you posted, he's in the brown leather jacket look. Obviously a lot of production people prefer that look ( as I do) to the orange and brown suit look.

    It was interesting and totally unexpected.

    I had no intention of a rewatch and when I saw people mentioning it on Twitter I sought it out... funnily enough last night at least the Adventure in Space and Time was still not part of the 'Whoniverse' section - even though its been sneakily updated.

    I thought it was lovely to see. Now some people are moaning Matt Smith's "removal" but I dont see it that way at all.
    The programme is a dramatisation of the genesis of Dr Who - and when it was made, it was to celebrate 50 years of the show. Matt's appearance illustrated the show was in safe hands and continually goes on into the future....

    Now it's 10 years later and we have reached the 60th milestone. Nothing in life should be taken for granted and its amazing the show endures but of course thats down to constant change - and to update the 'anniversary' celebration to demonstrate that at 60 years old the show is still going strong is lovely to see. Ncuti quite rightly now fills the ceremonial role that Matt Smith originally performed.
    (they could have done Tennant as of course Gatwa hasnt yet taken over the role but im glad they didnt).
    (oh and technically at the 50th they could have had Capaldi appear but he was still a long time from his debut so not quite the same)

    If I remember rightly there was a lot of debate whether Matt Smith should have been in that scene at all.

    I didn’t mind it but it did feel out of context with the real life tale being told.

    🙂

    It was symbolically and visually lining the origins to the present day, so I personally like it.
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    Was the version shown last night shorter than the original?

    There was talk that some scenes were cut?

    As to replacing Matt Smith, Mark Gattiss said 10 years ago that this was something that could be done.
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    edited 25/11/23 - 03:10 #644
    I had no idea this was a repeat until I read this thread. I don't normally watch Doctor Who stuff as I don't like the rebooted version and so this passed me by 10 years ago. I saw a trailer for it this week and assumed it was new. I remember Doctor Who from the very beginning but didn't know the story behind it. Such as Verity Lambert being the first producer. Her name was in the credits of pretty much everything I enjoyed on ITV growing up, what a TV legend she was, so it was a surprise to know she started out on Doctor Who and was such a key part of it. Also how close it came to being cancelled.

    A superb film, really enjoyable. The fact it was an updated repeat explains some of the comments in the original thread. The only thing that jarred slightly was David Bradley looking a little too old as William Hartnell, but his performance was very good.
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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,392
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    edited 25/11/23 - 12:08 #645
    Corwin wrote: »
    Was the version shown last night shorter than the original?

    There was talk that some scenes were cut?

    As to replacing Matt Smith, Mark Gattiss said 10 years ago that this was something that could be done.


    Just read this article that says due to the ongoing rights issue over an unearthly child, the scenes in it featuring dialogue from an unearthly child had to be cut.

    https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-adventure-space-time-edits-rights-issue-newsupdate/

    Makes me glad I have a physical copy.
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    I recall Mark Gatiss saying back in 2013 that they filmed Matt separately and that it was always his intention to update that scene with the latest Doctor for repeats as it was about Hartnell looking to the future and seeing the show's legacy. I really love this idea.

    People could argue (it's what fandom does) that it should have been Peter back in 2013 or David in this one etc... but you get the general idea.





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    StrakerStraker Posts: 79,807
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    Unearthly Child footage on the C5 programme now.
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    I completely understand that it's relevant to update that scene to include the latest Doctor and I am excited to see what Ncuti will bring to the role and I actually liked his little scene and the energy he conveyed even though he didn't say a word!

    But nothing will beat watching the very first airing and seeing Matt Smith appear. I thought it was a genius move and Smiths Doctor was established so you felt the reassurance of the character continuing from William Hartnell to present day.
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    Watched this for the first time yesterday and loved it. Interesting to watch a short time after the episode newly colourised too. It reminded me a lot of The Road to Coronation Street, also brilliant. I really enjoy old TV production dramas like these.
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    I caught a u tube video a year or so back showing a sixties documentary about an English Chapter of Hells Angels . It was very gritty and fly on the wall stuff. Anyway the angels were on a narrow boat and all stopped hells angling to watch Dr Who, i think it was William Hartnell?
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    Dave-HDave-H Posts: 9,942
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    The phrase "hells angling" immediately put a picture in my mind of them all sitting on the side of the boat in their bike leathers with fishing rods!
    :D
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