Houston UFO sighting
Marc_Anthony1
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Anyone else heard about this? Basically a huge UFO was spotted, photographed etc in Houston, America, and people were going mental on twitter about it. As usual, this idiotic journalist has attributed the term UFO with aliens, as well as the 'expert'. I've seen a few UFOs in my time, and I don't usually genuinely link them to aliens. I get a chill and think 'oh my God, what the hell is that' but I usually think military secret planes, drones, some weird thing from Russia etc. Why can't these people use logic? UFO means 'unidentified flying object', so that can refer to anything that we cannot identify that is flying. That saucer was no plane to me. So the ironic thing in this stupid Mail article is the journo looks like a fool. They've tried to mock those that saw it and it has failed. Yeah, typical mainstream narrative, don't believe anything could exist that we as the public don't know, because we know everything about the world and universe and the government totally would never lie about anything would they?
The comments are worth a read and they make me think it could be more than just a military UFO in this circumstance, especially as some are saying it was shot down. Who knows.
The dreaded Mail link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727587/UFO-Houston-Bright-oval-object-photographed-hovering-citys-stormy-skies.html#article-2727587
The comments are worth a read and they make me think it could be more than just a military UFO in this circumstance, especially as some are saying it was shot down. Who knows.
The dreaded Mail link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727587/UFO-Houston-Bright-oval-object-photographed-hovering-citys-stormy-skies.html#article-2727587
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Houston has circular highway street lamps that look exactly like that when lit up at night, although they are lower obviously.
http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Houston-street-lamp.jpg
Not even projected on clouds, just the reflection on a car window. It's definitely one of those street lights though. There's another pic that is fake, showing it at much more of an angle, just to fuel the fire I guess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_vwJt_pKeI
Lord Hill Norton said this,..
"Since my name has become connected with UFO matters in quite a big way in this country, and in one or two other countries too, I have frequently been asked why a person of my background — a former Chief of the Defense Staff, a former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee — why I think there is a cover-up, or what the reasons may be for government’s wishing to cover up the facts about UFOs. A number of explanations have often been put forward. The most frequent, and perhaps the most plausible, is the government’s concern (which [is] primarily that of the United States, and that of my own country) over the public’s reaction if they [were] told the truth — which is that there are objects in our atmosphere which are technically miles in advance of anything that we can deploy, that we have no means of stopping them coming here, and that we have no defense against them, should they be hostile"
This from Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding,..
The Second World War RAF Fighter commander during the Battle of Britain once said of UFOs: "I am convinced that these objects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth."
From Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell,..
"I urge those who are doubtful: Read the books, read the lore, start to understand what has really been going on. Because there really is no doubt we are being visited.
"The universe that we live in is much more wondrous, exciting, complex and far-reaching than we were ever able to know up to this point in time."
~ Could there be something to these regularly reported UFO sighting's?
I've seen one up close too; they do exist, it's just a fact. And if they're not vessels of some kind Mother Nature has some incredible tricks up her sleeve.
Am no expert but this clip achieved nearly 2000 'thumbs up' from viewer's on youtube,..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUEjeYn5Obg
Supposed to be able to see the occupant's of this ufo!
Therefore if a UFO appears to a couple of people on a chavvy council estate, they have no credibility because of their standing in society...but yet a military official, astronaut, scientist etc somehow has more credibility as a witness.
Why?
At best, such people may have a better idea of what the UFO isn't, but clearly no more idea than anyone else what it is.
And it also does not automatically follow that because such people claim to have 'eliminated' rational explanations, the logical conclusion is therefore that it is 'not of this earth'.
My argument here is that it is frankly impossible to know that all other possibilities have been eliminated...I really don't know how anyone could make that claim with any conviction.
The cold hard fact is that there may be rational explanations for things that may never come to light - the fact that something cannot be explained means just that...we don't know the explanation, and may never know. But it does not automatically follow (as many people seem to think) that conclusions can therefore be drawn along the lines of extraterrestial craft/aliens etc.
And frankly, even professional, high-ranking, scientific persons etc can be wrong, and also given to beliefs and flights of fancy like anyone else.
Hmmm...gotta be the luckiest guy in the world to see the same object in the same place a year later, and just happen to film it again...and then a 'scientist' with a belief in UFO's happens to film the same event a year or so later. And yet all 3 video's, as usual heavily edited and shown in shaky close-up, look exactly the same.
And the 'aliens' look like...guess what? Aliens. Classic 'greys'.
And Richard Leir? He's a nutter. Proof indeed, as I stated in my other post on here, that simply because someone appears to have some sort of professional standing, does not preclude the from being whack jobs.
And what's with all the different shapes, sizes and lighting patterns? That makes the idea of alien visitation even less likely. Not only does an intelligent, reasoning being have to answer the questions raised in my first paragraph but they then apparently have to extend those answers to include the possibility that we are being visited by every last Tom, Dick and Harry in the galaxy!
It is far simpler to apply Occam's Razor and conclude that it's human observational error and photographic artefacting.
It turns out this might well be a hoax. However, in general you are quite right. Many of the explanations given for UFOs from sceptics/debunkers are highly implausible and in many case just laughable. The Rendlesham Forrest incident is a case in point. Some sceptics reached the conclusion that military personnel had simply seen the Orford Ness Lighthouse!
I have no doubt having researched the subject that aliens have visited this planet and continue to do so with cover-ups being the norm. Many of the people here and elsewhere simply ridicule and dismiss the idea from a stand point of complete ignorance on the subject.
Agreed.
The sheer inconsistency and myriad shapes, colours and sizes of these various craft just beggars belief.
But the most glaring inconsistency for me is that even now in 2014, with practically everyone on the planet having the capability to film on some sort of device and usually in HD quality...there has still never been a genuine, 100% conclusively proven piece of footage.
Yet I still don't discount the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, But here's an even more interesting question...given the ease with which it is to fake things these days, what would it actually take to convince us that an extraterrestial craft had genuinely landed somewhere and aliens walked out? TV and film footage can be faked, so unless you were actually there, able to walk up and touch the thing...how would you know it's real?
There is a vast difference between thinking something looks real and it actually being genuine and proven.
There have been numerous high quality images and filmed footage that have defied explanation to date. Unfortunately, people like you simply dismiss them as CGI when they can't think of anything else to explain them away.
**The original tape was handed to the TUBITAK representatives on live TV in their own headquarters. Once the analysis was concluded, they gave an official report from which we took the following fragment:
"The objects observed on the images have a structure made of a specific material and are definitely not any kind of CGI animation or in any means a type of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for video effects. So the conclusion of this report is that the observations are not a model, marquette, or a fraud" and the last part of the report, "it's concluded that the objects observed have a physical structure and are made of materials that don't belong to any category of (airplanes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, satellites, artificial lights, Chinese lanterns, etc.) and that it mostly fits in the category of UFO's (Unidentified Flying Objects and of unknown origin)".
Other analysis was done by video specialist, image edition and special effect companies from Japan, Russia, and Turkey, all ending up with the same conclusions. In Chile, I asked professor José Atenas to technically examine the videos, an expert in graphics and video with more than 30 years of experience on television. In his appreciation, José Atenas also came to the same conclusions that the images are authentic.**
Above copied from this site,..
http://archivosovni2.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/graphic-analysis-on-videos-regarding.html
So some commentators are very sure at any rate.
A very poor attempt to rubbish the opinions of people who seek to use their common sense and question what is put before them, a quality that every person on the planet should possess.
As I have stated elsewhere on here I don't discount the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, but have yet to see the evidence that we have been visited.
Oh yes, there are plenty of claims, videos, footage, testimonies etc...but frankly none can or have been proven conclusively.
Ultimately it is all down to what a person chooses to believe based on what information is available. That a person chooses to believe does not in itself validate what they believe, merely that they have decided to draw their own conclusion from what they see.
Frankly, the claims of such people hold no more weight or veracity than anyone else's. I never have and never will be convinced of such claims simply because someone points me to a youtube video, and TELLS me what it I am supposed to be looking at and then tells me to believe it.
Similarly with these tired old apochryphal stories of old, like Rendelsham...people who are convinced of what they have seen, and have chosen to interpret what they have seen as extraterrestial. Fact is they don't know what they have seen and cannot explain it, and have drawn their own conclusions, They have effectively convinced themselves, but I am not bound by anything to believe what they say. Neither is anyone else.
And I have the right to dismiss them until such things are proven irrefutably and without question.
The difference is that you and others choose to believe even when such things are not actually proven, you seem to believe them either because they look convincing, and also because other people also choose to believe and make claims of veracity, which are in truth nothing of the sort - they are merely an opinion.
Others say they have 'studied' such things...but ultimately they can only draw a conclusion as to whether they believe or not based on available material, which in itself is inconclusive.
And the great get-out clause as to why such things are not yet proven? Well, of course...governments and shadowy agencies are keeping the truth from us.
I'm surprised that no one has yet wheeled out a yootube video of resident ex-MOD pencil-pusher and Fox Mulder lookalike Nick Pope, complete with spooky music, skewed camera angles and moody green background lighting...
Your conclusions seems to be based on numbers...if X number of people believe it, it must be real.
There are a fairly large number of notable and ordinary folk that are in the believers camp,..
A very obvious question here...
If so many people, including the 'experts' you have quoted above have stated that this footage is genuine...why therefore was this not reported widely in the media as proof of visitation by alien life?
And please don't use the 'government cover-up/surpression' angle, because the footage is available on youtube and has been discussed freely on many forums, including this one.
I think that once you have the technology to live in space you have far more options and resources available to you. Looking down at us now is probably akin to looking through the window of a creche. Kinda fun to see a young species playing childish games but there are more interesting things to do elsewhere. That's because CGI is known to exist. You're the ones claiming something extraordinary and as the saying goes - extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
So I should believe on the basis that some of these people are 'notable'?
Comes back to the same thing, such 'notable' people can still only draw conclusions based on what they know...but crucially they can be wrong, which is something people who choose to believe never consider.
That is why I never choose to base a belief in such things on the claims and opinions of others, whoever they may be.