Another Conservative by-election?
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It looks like David Ruffley from Bury St Edmunds is under pressure to resign. This doesn't come from Labour, but from the Conservative's biggest supporter, Guido. The video is worth watching as a prime example of asking leading questions, and as Guido summarises "You could elect a pig in Bury St Edmunds if it had a blue rosette, and this time it looks like they have".
Bury St Edmunds must be one of the safest seats in the UK, with a Tory sitting there since 1826, so even UKIP don't stand a chance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_St_Edmunds_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
It looks like David Ruffley from Bury St Edmunds is under pressure to resign. This doesn't come from Labour, but from the Conservative's biggest supporter, Guido. The video is worth watching as a prime example of asking leading questions, and as Guido summarises "You could elect a pig in Bury St Edmunds if it had a blue rosette, and this time it looks like they have".
Bury St Edmunds must be one of the safest seats in the UK, with a Tory sitting there since 1826, so even UKIP don't stand a chance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_St_Edmunds_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
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Must admit when I hear the words 'Bury St Edmunds', 'blue rosette' and 'pig' mentioned together I don't think of Ruffley but the bloke who lives in Angel Hill in the town- the ex-Chingford Skinhead who left Essex for Suffolk.
http://order-order.com/2014/07/02/top-tory-cop-in-suffolk-condemns-inexcusable-ruffley/
Do you reckon he'll stay quiet in the background for the rest of the parliament or be forced out for a by-election the Tories are certain to win?
Ah - don't you just love the UK political system:
Your choice is someone whose policies you completely disagree with or someone who beats women. . . . .
That is not the choice though, the party system makes the choices and it is the policies of the parties in the first instance that should be considered, the candidates personal qualities usually come second. Where party policy is not clear then the point of the campaigning before the election is to find out what the candidate believes. The system allows for any number of independents to stand. Seems reasonable. With any vote a compromise is always made, if the compromise cannot countenance a particular candidate then the vote should not be cast for him. I voted Labour for many years despite disagreeing with some of the policies, that is the nature of compromise. Labour assumed I had given them a mandate for every policy.
Agreed. It seems the parties are being very lackadaisical about selecting and keeping candidates , from Kathy Wiles in Angus and seeming half of the UKIP nutjobs, to David Ruffley. It's almost as if the party chiefs are too busy slagging each other off to care about the quality of candidates they have.
In general I think we do need to change the voting system As for this situation, people can always stand as independent candidates if the Tories stand by him inc independent Tory candidates.
Yes, but the problem with independent candidates are
1. You can never be sure about what they will do in parliament - the party system provides at least some control over their actions.
And
2. The FPTP system means that you are risking splitting the vote, especially if there are more than one independents with the same view. If, for example, two independent conservatives stand against an official candidate you hate, your vote for the independent is more than likely just going to help a Labour or Lib Dem get it.
I've come round to the opinion that if you're going to have a FPTP system then the only fair method is to either have primary elections or at least some mechanism for ordinary voters to oppose candidate choice. Of course AV would have resolved all of that, but never mind . . . .
Its no different to anyone, party or no party candidate. People need to suss them before they cast their votes, its no that hard. I knew my MP was blagging bigtime when he was seeking to oust the then Labour MP but because he is charismatic, people have let him off on his failures to deliver on local "promises". Stupid I find but I'm just one person, can't do too much about it on my own unless i stand myself.....but I won't.
I predict a Tory hold, no matter how much fantasising UKIP or Labour have of winning a seat over there.
The pressure from Guido continues! Will Gove do anything about the Tory who blamed his girlfriend for being hit by him?
john prescott - egg - punch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1oSfHybz9o
and don't forget, there is also a victim in this.
Yeah, that would be the guy being attacked as he walks down the street.
oh, get off your high horse.
i am not, i am implying that MP's should relaise they have a responsibility to act in a diginified manner (more so than us mere mortals as they represent us in parliament). and yes, perhaps i could have used eric or bill, but i chose john - the reason being that when miliband got egged, he didn't lash out, where as prescott did.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2702160/MPs-grilling-assault-caution-Tory-faces-crisis-meeting-future-anger-grows-attack-partner-argument.html
Get off your lame horse. Prescott was 100% justified in defending himself in that particular instance.
i agree. i did wonder why the tory party hierarchy were quiet on this, but then again, there are bigger issues in the news at the moment, that will no doubt overshadow what ruffley has done.
my horse is anything but lame.;-)
justified or not, he was in a position of responsibility to respond in a more dignified way. no excuses. miliband didn't react the way prescott did.
slight diversion...so if someone attacked Cameron with a knife, he should just respond in a dignified manner instead of defending himself? Remember that Prescott made a split second reaction to defend himself from an attacker, he didn't know whether it was an egg, acid or a knife until afterwards.
no. he should defend himself if possible. you can make excuses for prescott all you want, i have a different opinion to you and others as to what prescott should have done. lets just leave it at that and respect each others opinion over what prescott did.
as for an assailant coming at cameron (or any mp for that matter) with a knife, that mp has a decision to make. personally i would defend myself.
I don't like John Prescott but I remember clapping when I saw that incident on TV.
Glad someone has the balls to give these eggers a bloody nose.