Does Peter Barlow care about his son at all??
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It's pretty obvious he doesn't care one jot about Leanne, given the despicable way he kept ignoring her calls while he frolicked with his new love, Carla the Irresistable, but the way he just didn't seem to care about the promise he made to his son about going to see Santa, and the comment he made about his Dad being able to take care of him when he decided to go on his binges was just sickening! I know him saying this was all a ploy to try and shock Leanne into dumping him, but just the mere thought of him being so non-chalant about how his decisions can affect the little lad is very telling in how selfish he really is!
That little lad has been through so much already in his little life, surely a caring father wouldn't be so quick to put him through more upheaval, but Peter is turning out to be one selfish and uncaring prat!
I know it's only a soap and not real, but he has reminded me of the fact that most alcoholics are just that - self serving, self absorbed and usually self pitying pathetic excuses for people!
That little lad has been through so much already in his little life, surely a caring father wouldn't be so quick to put him through more upheaval, but Peter is turning out to be one selfish and uncaring prat!
I know it's only a soap and not real, but he has reminded me of the fact that most alcoholics are just that - self serving, self absorbed and usually self pitying pathetic excuses for people!
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I loved the scenes between Peter and Leanne, brilliant acting - as we've come to expect.
However, before there had been money to be gained, he had not taken much notice of his existence (I believe).
I agree with this.
I do think in the beginning he struggled to bond with Simon, but at this point he does love his son and care about making him happy.
Reading this post made me automatically think of the phrase "Oooh, I could crush a grape!"
Hope you can watch it on catch up later! It was actually very good for a change, best episode in a long while imo!
Then they are all selfish. Apart from Simon.
How is Leanne being selfish in all of this exactly?
If you're at home now - both episodes are being reshown - ITV2+1 at 1pm
Not in this particular situation but she acted selfishly in her affair with Nick a year ago. So all three characters are guilty of being selfish.
Well, she decided to put Simon and Peter first and dumped Nick in favour of keeping their family unit together, so I think selfish is something which cannot be attributed to Leanne! She has stuck by Peter through thick and thin, and still he puts himself before anyone! He even did it to Carla last night by telling her not to "clock watch" while he dumped Leanne, and then left her out to dry when he couldn't go through with it!
Finding it very hard to have sympathy for Carla in this though! She knew he was unavailable, same as Nick did with Leanne, so hard cheese if they feel hard done by!
Leanne still had an affair though. Just because she choose Peter in the end, doesn't mean she is blameless.
If we look at the past 2 months, Carla has done no chasing of Peter what-so ever. He chased her, and she rejected his advances several times until he was sober and told her he loved her and wanted to be with her. I don't see how that is her fault.
Only because Ken and Deirdre had found out and Ken walked in on them both.
I'm just rewatching the episodes now- Peter is a selfish git who doesn't deserve Carla or Leanne. He can't even be honest with Lianne, if he really wants to be with Carla he should be honest with Lianne.
Carla I don't have any sympathy for, she's making another play for a married man who has a child involved. Personally I'm not sure why she wants to be with Peter so badly, if he can treat his wife with such disregard, does she think she will be exempt from that?
While it's true they did find out, it wasn't the only reason she gave up Nick! She really did want to stay with Peter and Simon, Ken finding out was just the kick in the ass she needed to realise she didn't love Nick enough to leave them!
I know Carla did the chasing before her rape. But since then, I think she accepted Peter didn't love her and has tried to move on. In the past two months she has done NO chasing and it was all Peter. So currently it isn't her who was making the play.
She is quite happy for him to break up his family right before Christmas. She's not telling him to put Simon first and let him adjust to that and surely if they love each other and want to be together, Simons feelings should come into it?
My point exactly! And the fact that Peter was willing to go through with it just because it was what he wanted proves him to be a selfish, uncaring monster!
Course Simon's feelings should come into it. Peter said he would make sure Simon was settled didn't he at the beginning of the second ep. She gave him several opportunities to back out, rejecting his advances several times before giving in. Put yourself in Carla's shoes - she had had the worst two months of her life, been suicidal and been surrounded by people like Anne and Sally who are doubting her. She has the trial up and coming. And suddenly the man she is in love with admits he loves her and wants to be with her - it must be overwhelming.
Peter should have phoned Leanne telling her he was ok, and then told her the truth.
I don't think parents should stay together solely for the children's sake. Children are not stupid, they would pick up on the strains and cracks in the relationship.
Nobody has said they should, but the children's feelings should definitely be considered first and foremost! And breaking up a family on the cusp of Christmas is definitely not putting a child's feelings before your own!