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Big Package changes at BT TV

d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,530
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Reposting this from my post on the BT TV forum. Changes are afoot on BT TV!

When I reached the package and pricing pages in My BT on the website just now, checking what upgrade and channel options I had, I was fed a page headed:

"TV Starter" £0 a month (£19 activation)
Up to 70 Freeview radio & TV channels
Catch Up TV
Pause & Rewind Δ

"Entertainment Starter" £5 a month (£19 activation)
Up to 70 Freeview radio & TV channels
Catch Up TV
25 entertainment channels
Pause & Rewind Δ

"Entertainment Plus" £10 a month
Up to 70 Freeview radio & TV channels
Record TV
25 entertainment channels
TV Everywhere
Free activation

"Entertainment Max" £15 a month
Exclusive to existing TV customers
Up to 70 Freeview radio & TV channels
Record TV
25 entertainment channels
TV Everywhere
HD Extra included
Kids Extra included.

There is some new stuff about the Sports packages including BT Sport, mentioned £13.49 a month excluding SS1 & 2 so... oh, it does now say BT Sport is free with BT Infinity.

This ties in with a BT CS rep yesterday evening who told me that BT TV changes were on the way, he couldn't say what, and further incremental changes were planned after that. Anyway, they are making big changes to the website tonight and I got a sneak peek. Pause & rewind only, on the two base packages though? Must be Youview boxes, and Youview+ boxes, and it adds "Δ If choosing to switch to a recordable box, there will be a £35 box swap fee".

Overall it looks like a price rise for new Infinity users, though TV Essential is still available with recording, at £5 pm for BT broadband customers. I guess BT too have to pay for the football... <rolleyes>

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    neyney Posts: 12,516
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    Wonder what I will mean to me that's on the TV entertainment package and also has the HD extra bolt on.
    Looking at the TV guide I don't see any new channels so I wander that the extra 5 channels are to the entertainment package.
    Im the now getting TV entertainment at a £5 a month discount until start of Feb next year.

    Darren
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    ncollncoll Posts: 207
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    The new channels are Comedy Central Xtra, H2, MTV Music, Lifetime and Movies 24.
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    tompaynetompayne Posts: 304
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    These new channels are not on my EPG yet, not that I am particularly excited by the prospect of them.
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    ozsatozsat Posts: 5,744
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    There didn't appear in my EPG list until I upgraded and they then appeared
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    ozsatozsat Posts: 5,744
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    And TV Everywhere works with the new package - without having to buy a second box.
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,530
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    ncoll wrote: »
    The new channels are Comedy Central Xtra, H2, MTV Music, Lifetime and Movies 24.

    Thanks for mentioning the new channels, it was late when I posted and I forgot to check!

    Still need more, such as the extra-cost footy channels (MUTV/Chelsea/Liverpool), so supporters jumping ship from Sky TV won't lose out next season.

    All officially announced now in the BT TV forum. Glad I took up their £5 a month offering for TV Entertainment with a recording box, for 12 months earlier this year! So I won't be doubling my subscription to get the 5 new 'meh' channels, it would have been more tempting if HD was included in Entertainment Plus.
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    neyney Posts: 12,516
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    ozsat wrote: »
    There didn't appear in my EPG list until I upgraded and they then appeared

    Seems crap that you have to upgrate your TV package for the new channels to apear on the Youview EPG.
    I only renewed all my BT packages about 3 monthas ago.
    Not sure if its worth me upgrading my package or not.

    Darren
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    tompaynetompayne Posts: 304
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    So the new FREE 'starter' pack costs £19 to activate? What exactly is there to activate?
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,530
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    It's basically an admin charge for setting it all up. Reduced from £35 for the two starter packages! Built in to the higher cost of the next package up.
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    Jimmy_BarnesJimmy_Barnes Posts: 895
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    ney wrote: »
    Seems crap that you have to upgrate your TV package for the new channels to apear on the Youview EPG.
    I only renewed all my BT packages about 3 monthas ago.
    Not sure if its worth me upgrading my package or not.

    Darren

    I had to retune, twice, as it goes, as the first time took ages and only tuned the IPTV channels, but I have the new ones on my EPG. It's just the same as Sky Movies etc, you can see the listings but if you're not a subscriber, that's your lot!

    I'm giving upgrading to the Entertainment Max package some thought. As it stands now, it's only £4.55 more than what I'm paying now for Entertainment + HD, and I'd get the five new Entertainment channels, TV Everywhere, which could come in handy in a few weeks when I go on holiday and the Kids channels, which I don't particularly need but would get a bit of use from when my daughters are over to stay.

    I'm a bit sceptical of Entertainment Max being "exclusively" for existing Infinity customers though. But I suppose if you're switching from, say, Sky, and you want everything Max is offering (Entertainment + HD + Everywhere + Kids), you'd end up paying £16 a month, as the HD and Kids bolt ons are £3 each, while everything else is bundled into the next package down at £10.

    So this exclusive deal for existing customers would save us a whopping £1 a month! Every little helps, as someone once said :D
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    neyney Posts: 12,516
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    If I was to upgrade from TV entertainment to entertainment Max I'm better to do it over the phone or online.

    Darren
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    ozsatozsat Posts: 5,744
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    I've always 'phoned and the chsnges are active in around 15-20 minutes.
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    tvmad-alantvmad-alan Posts: 1,996
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    ##407: Watch
    ##408: Gold
    ##409: Alibi
    ##413: TLC
    ##414: Discovery Channel
    ##415: Animal Planet
    ##417: Comedy Central
    ##418: Comedy Central Extra ( New )
    ##419: Syfy
    ##420: Universal Channel
    ##421: E!
    ##422: Fox
    ##423: National Geographic Channel
    ##424: Nat Geo Wild
    ##425: MTV
    ##431: MTV Music ( new )
    ##432: History
    ##433: Crime & Investigation Network
    ##446: Comedy Central HD
    ##447: MTV HD
    ##448: Syfy HD
    ##449: Fox HD
    ##450: National Geographic Channel HD
    ##451: Nat Geo Wild HD
    ##452: History HD
    ##453: CI HD
    ##454: Sony Entertainment Television
    ##471: InvestDiscov
    ##472: TLC HD
    ##473: Discovery HD
    ##474: Animal Planet HD
    ##475: BT ( Advert channel )
    ##490: LifeTime ( New )
    ##491: H2 ( new )
    Sport channels
    ##501: Sky Sports 1
    ##502: Sky Sports 2
    ##507: BT Sport 1 (also on DTT 58)
    ##508: BT Sport 2
    ##509: ESPN
    ##510: BT Sport 1 HD
    ##511: BT Sport 2 HD
    ##512: ESPN HD
    ##513: British Eurosport
    ##514: British Eurosport 2
    ##521: British Eurosport HD
    ##522: British Eurosport 2HD
    ##527: BT Sport Extra
    Movie channels
    ##530: Sky Movies Premiere
    ##531: Sky Movies Action and Adventure
    ##532: Sky Movies Disney
    ##533: Sky Movies Showcase
    ##534: Sky Movies Family
    ##535: Sky Movies Comedy
    ##536: Sky Movies Sci Fi and Horror
    ##537: Sky Movies Greats
    ##538: Sky Movies Crime and Thriller
    ##539: Sky Movies Select
    ##540: Sky Movies Drama and Romance
    ##542: Movies/24 ( new )
    Children's channels
    ##555: Disney
    ##556: Disney Junior
    ##557: Disney XD
    ##558: Nickelodeon
    ##559: Nick Jr.
    ##560: nicktoons ( new ? )
    ##561: Boomerang
    ##562: Cartoon Network
    ##563: Cartoonito
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    tvmad-alantvmad-alan Posts: 1,996
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    Here is list of new packages and prices taken from BT site on 01/05/2015.

    TV packages with BT Infinity.
    Entertainment Starter £5/mth + activation fee from £19

    Here you'll find the channels that are included within the Entertainment Starter package,
    along with the additional bolt-ons you can add.
    All available Freeview & Freeview HD channels
    Go to www.freeview.co.uk/availability to see what channels are available where you live

    Extra channels
    Watch
    GOLD
    Alibi
    Comedy Central
    TLC
    Discovery
    Animal Planet
    Sy Fy
    Universal
    E!
    FOX
    Nat Geo
    NatGeo WILD
    MTV
    History
    Crime & Investigation
    Sony Entertainment TV
    ID: Investigation Discovery
    Eurosport 1
    Eurosport 2

    Sport channels
    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    ESPN

    You may need to place an order for these channels to be added to your BT TV box free of charge.
    If you can't view these channels you can place an order here.

    Bolt-ons (additional cost)

    These bolt-ons and channels aren't available as part of your package but can be added.
    Go to www.bt.com/boltons to find out more or place an order

    Sports channels
    BT Sport HD bolt-on - includes BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD £3 a month
    Sky Sports - Sky Sports 1 & Sky Sports 2 £22 a month.

    Netflix From £5.99/mth
    Netflix bolt-on - gives you access to the whole Netflix catalogue

    HD channels £3/mth
    HD Extra bolt-on - includes 13 HD channels plus BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD

    Kids channels £3 a month.
    BT Kids bolt-on - includes 9 kids channels and access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Movies £13.50 a month
    Sky Movies bolt-on - includes 11 Sky Movies channels access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Music £3 a month.
    BT Music bolt-on - includes all the biggest albums, music videos and concerts through the BT Player

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    Entertainment Plus £10/mth £0 activation fee

    Here you'll find the channels that are included within the Entertainment Plus package,
    along with the additional bolt-ons you can add.
    All available Freeview & Freeview HD channels

    Go to www.freeview.co.uk/availability to see what channels are available where you live

    Extra channels
    Watch
    GOLD
    Alibi
    Comedy Central
    TLC
    Discovery
    Animal Planet
    Sy Fy
    Universal
    E!
    FOX
    Nat Geo
    NatGeo WILD
    MTV
    History
    Crime & Investigation
    Sony Entertainment TV
    ID: Investigation Discovery
    Eurosport 1
    Eurosport 2
    Movies 24
    Comedy Central Extra
    MTV Music
    Lifetime
    H2
    Sport channels
    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    ESPN

    You may need to place an order for these channels to be added to your BT TV box free of charge.
    If you can't view these channels you can place an order here.

    BT TV Everywhere £5 a month
    BT TV Everywhere is a streaming service that allows you to watch BT TV channels on your computer,tablet or smartphone.
    It's especially handy if you're not in front of the TV or can't agree on something to watch.

    Find out more about BT TV Everywhere Find out more about BT TV Everywhere

    Bolt-ons (additional cost)
    These bolt-ons and channels aren't available as part of your package but can be added.
    Go to www.bt.com/boltons to find out more or place an order

    Sports channels
    BT Sport HD bolt-on - includes BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD £3 a month
    Sky Sports - Sky Sports 1 & Sky Sports 2 £22 a month.

    Netflix From £5.99/mth
    Netflix bolt-on - gives you access to the whole Netflix catalogue

    HD channels £3/mth
    HD Extra bolt-on - includes 13 HD channels plus BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD

    Kids channels £3 a month.
    BT Kids bolt-on - includes 9 kids channels and access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Movies £13.50 a month
    Sky Movies bolt-on - includes 11 Sky Movies channels access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Music £3 a month.
    BT Music bolt-on - includes all the biggest albums, music videos and concerts through the BT Player

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    Entertainment Max (exclusive to existing customers only) £15 /mth


    Here you'll find the channels that are included within the Entertainment Max package,
    along with the additional bolt-ons you can add.
    All available Freeview & Freeview HD channels
    Go to www.freeview.co.uk/availability to see what channels are available where you live

    Extra channels
    Watch
    GOLD
    Alibi
    Comedy Central
    TLC
    Discovery
    Animal Planet
    Sy Fy
    Universal
    E!
    FOX
    Nat Geo
    NatGeo WILD
    MTV
    History
    Crime & Investigation
    Sony Entertainment TV
    ID: Investigation Discovery
    Eurosport 1
    Eurosport 2
    Movies 24
    Comedy Central Extra
    MTV Music
    Lifetime
    H2

    Sport channels
    BT Sport 1 & BT Sport 1 HD
    BT Sport 2 & BT Sport 2 HD
    ESPN & ESPN HD

    You may need to place an order for these channels to be added to your BT TV box free of charge.
    If you can't view these channels you can place an order here.

    BT Kids
    BT Kids includes these kids channels and access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Boomerang
    Disney Junior
    Disney Channel
    Disney XD
    Nickelodeon
    Nick Toons
    Nick Jr.
    Cartoon Network
    Cartoonito

    HD Extra channels

    FOX HD
    Nat Geo HD
    Nat Geo WILD HD
    MTV HD
    History HD
    Crime & Investigation HD
    Discovery HD
    Animal Planet HD
    TLC HD
    Eurosport 1 HD
    Eurosport 2 HD
    SyFy HD
    Comedy Central HD

    BT TV Everywhere £5 a month

    BT TV Everywhere is a streaming service that allows you to watch BT TV channels on your computer,
    tablet or smartphone. It's especially handy if you're not in front of the TV or can't agree on something to watch.

    Find out more about BT TV Everywhere Find out more about BT TV Everywhere

    Bolt-ons (additional cost)

    These bolt-ons and channels aren't available as part of your package but can be added.
    Go to www.bt.com/boltons to find out more or place an order

    Sports channels
    Sky Sports - Sky Sports 1 & Sky Sports 2 £22 a month.

    Netflix From £5.99/mth
    Netflix bolt-on - gives you access to the whole Netflix catalogue

    Movies £13.50 a month
    Sky Movies bolt-on - includes 11 Sky Movies channels access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Music £3 a month.
    BT Music bolt-on - includes all the biggest albums, music videos and concerts through the BT Player

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    TV Starter

    Here you'll find the channels that are included within the TV Starter package,
    along with the additional bolt-ons you can add.
    All available Freeview & Freeview HD channels
    Go to www.freeview.co.uk/availability to see what channels are available where you live

    Sport channels

    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    ESPN

    You may need to place an order for these channels to be added to your BT TV box free of charge.
    If you can't view these channels you can place an order here.

    Bolt-ons (additional cost)

    These bolt-ons and channels aren't available as part of your package but can be added.
    Go to www.bt.com/boltons to find out more or place an order

    Sports channels
    BT Sport HD bolt-on - includes BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD £3 a month
    Sky Sports - Sky Sports 1 & Sky Sports 2 £22 a month.

    Netflix From £5.99/mth
    Netflix bolt-on - gives you access to the whole Netflix catalogue

    Kids channels £3 a month.
    BT Kids bolt-on - includes 9 kids channels and access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Movies £13.50 a month
    Sky Movies bolt-on - includes 11 Sky Movies channels access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Music £3 a month.
    BT Music bolt-on - includes all the biggest albums, music videos and concerts through the BT Player

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    TV Entertainment (no longer on sale – existing customers only)


    Here you'll find the channels that are included within the TV Entertainment package,
    along with the additional bolt-ons you can add.
    All available Freeview & Freeview HD channels

    Go to www.freeview.co.uk/availability to see what channels are available where you live

    Extra channels
    Watch
    GOLD
    Alibi
    Comedy Central
    TLC
    Discovery
    Animal Planet
    Sy Fy
    Universal
    E!
    FOX
    Nat Geo
    NatGeo WILD
    MTV
    History
    Crime & Investigation
    Sony Entertainment TV
    ID: Investigation Discovery
    Eurosport 1
    Eurosport 2


    Sport channels
    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    ESPN

    You may need to place an order for these channels to be added to your BT TV box free of charge.
    If you can't view these channels you can place an order here.

    Bolt-ons (additional cost)

    These bolt-ons and channels aren't available as part of your package but can be added.
    Go to www.bt.com/boltons to find out more or place an order

    Sports channels
    BT Sport HD bolt-on - includes BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD £3 a month

    Sky Sports - Sky Sports 1 & Sky Sports 2 £22 a month.

    Netflix From £5.99/mth
    Netflix bolt-on - gives you access to the whole Netflix catalogue

    HD channels £3/mth
    HD Extra bolt-on - includes 13 HD channels plus BT Sport 1 HD, BT Sport 2 HD & ESPN HD

    Kids channels £3 a month.
    BT Kids bolt-on - includes 9 kids channels and access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Movies £13.50 a month
    Sky Movies bolt-on - includes 11 Sky Movies channels access to On Demand through the BT Player

    Music £3 a month.
    BT Music bolt-on - includes all the biggest albums, music videos and concerts through the BT Player

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    TV packages with BT Broadband.
    TV Starter and TV Essential
    £0/mth + activation fee from £19

    Here you'll find the channels that are included within the TV Starter and TV Essential packages,
    along with the additional bolt-ons you can add.
    All available Freeview & Freeview HD channels

    Go to www.freeview.co.uk/availability to see what channels are available where you live

    Sport channels
    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    ESPN

    You may need to place an order for these channels to be added to your BT TV box free of charge.
    If you can't view these channels you can place an order here.

    If your BT Broadband isn't fast enough, we may not be able to add these channels to your BT TV box.
    In this instance, you can watch BT Sport via the app or web player.


    Bolt-ons (additional cost)

    These bolt-ons and channels aren't available as part of your package but can be added.
    Go to www.bt.com/boltons to find out more or place an order

    Netflix From £5.99/mth
    The Netflix bolt-on gives you access to the whole Netflix catalogue

    Kids £3 a month.
    With the BT Kids bolt-on you'll get access to the kids On Demand library through the BT Player

    Sky Movies (YouView+ box only) £13.50 a month
    The the Sky Movies bolt-on gives you access to the Sky Movies On Demand library through the BT Player

    Music £3 a month.
    BT Music bolt-on - includes all the biggest albums, music videos and concerts through the BT Player


    As you can see BT are not giving the new channels for free BUT are give a package deal to give you a second way to view the channels over the Internet using your Laptops, Pads etc and all HD & Kids shows all together if you wish and can afford.
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    neyney Posts: 12,516
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    BT are just doing what Sky have don't for years with there Sky go and include it as part of a TV package.
    I would have liked one or two more channels like Discovery and Fox added to the TV anywhere app.
    BT have made a start in trying to improve there TV offering I think.

    Darren
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    tompaynetompayne Posts: 304
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    So for £5 extra per month you get this:

    MTV Music
    Movies 24
    Lifetime
    H2
    Comedy Central Extra

    Presumably they have plans to add more channels to this "plus" package because frankly, the current new offering is not worth the extra cost. These channels are not premium and should obviously be a part of the standard package.

    PS - I am not moaning because I want these channels, I dont actually want them. I pretty much only watch on demand stuff these days. Simply these 5 channels are not premium.
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    tvmad-alantvmad-alan Posts: 1,996
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    price of channels and bolts on ...
    Channel's £7.50
    HD £3.00
    Kids £3.00
    BT TV Anywere £5.00
    = £ 18.50
    So £15.00 deal for customers gives you the news channels for free and saves you £3.50
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    wowboywowboy Posts: 1,379
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    So you have to pay £5 for the 5 new channels. :(
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,530
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    You can stay on your existing package as I am and and pay no extra. 0% price rise.
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    tvmad-alantvmad-alan Posts: 1,996
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    The new package come with a newish service called TV Everywhere which cost £5 by it self as a bolt on sounds great to see Your TV channels anywhere .....
    It shame that BT has not made Microsoft app only OS 6 and Android 4.2 above but yet make 5.0 which is coming along now.
    The channels list that play on the software is NOT all channels that BT TV has which is a shame , can anyone tell me when all channels will be there so it matches what you pay for on the Youview box ??
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