Most Muslims will be completely against ISIS and their activities. However clearly there is a worryingly large number of them who are prepared to go and fight.
Or plant bombs in our cities with the intention of killing as many of their fellow British citizens as possible.
I would not be able to bring myself to watch the video, just seeing David Haines talk at the beginning of it was intense enough for me. Truly horrific. Bomb the bastards.
What I don't get is why The hostages comply with what the terrorists tell them to say at the start of the videos? They know they are about to be beheaded. If it was me I would turn around and spit on the floor or say a message for lord ones back home.
They will take them out for mock executions or torture them with water boarding or crucifying them. I don't think many SAS soldiers would stand up well to that treatment let alone civilians.
We have to come round to the fact that this is a no win situation they are putting us under - every hostage they have is going to suffer at the hands of these barbaric monsters ... IS need to be wiped from the face of this earth and the only way that can be done is by putting some serious boots on the ground.
The flak will no doubt follow but that is the only option open to us and we gotta accept that sooner rather than later.
I agree.
We need to throw some serious military hardware at these bastards and come down like a ton of bricks on anyone expressing support for them in the UK.
I thought capital punishment was abolished in the sixties? 1998 are you sure?
Yes, in the sixties it was abolished for murder but retained for a number of other crimes such as treason; arson in a naval dockyard, spying and piracy.... also for military crimes like mutiny. All of that was changed in 1998.
I've said it before and i'll say it again. We are heading for a society here where muslims and non muslims do not mix together. There will be some nasty anti muslim groups emerging who will fight back and target people here as the government have not been doing a good enough job themselves.
I've said it before and i'll say it again. We are heading for a society here where muslims and non muslims do not mix together. There will be some nasty anti muslim groups emerging who will fight back and target people here as the government have not been doing a good enough job themselves.
It will get messy, very messy.
Exactly.
But the government and lefty PC morons would rather let that happen than "offend" anyone.
I wonder what will happen this time. MP's come back soon don't they? Maybe the PM should ask them to vote on military action. It seems like they are trying to force us to go in and to be honest, it seems like we don't have many options. They will either keep people people or we'll have to go back in and get rid of them.
I'd imagine members of our army are wanting to go in and kick some ass right now as are the americans. Doesn't even seem like a normal 'war' situation. It's a group of terrorists/idiots hell bent on turning nations into a muslim state and they will kill anyone who stands in their way.
They will take them out for mock executions or torture them with water boarding or crucifying them. I don't think many SAS soldiers would stand up well to that treatment let alone civilians.
Ah ok thanks. That makes sense. They wouldn't wanna try it with me when I'm in manic mode though.. Haha.. They wouldn't be getting the response they wanted however much shit they put me through >.<
I've said it before and i'll say it again. We are heading for a society here where muslims and non muslims do not mix together. There will be some nasty anti muslim groups emerging who will fight back and target people here as the government have not been doing a good enough job themselves.
It will get messy, very messy.
I agree Tom.Ever seen that film 'Children Of Men'?.With Clive Owen.That's the future of the UK.Apart from the infertile bit.
The riots,the bombings,the internment camps,the paramilitary Police,the mass immigration.It's already happening.
Ah ok thanks. That makes sense. They wouldn't wanna try it with me when I'm in manic mode though.. Haha.. They wouldn't be getting the response they wanted however much shit they put me through >.<
I imagine that's a lot easier to say when you're not the person held hostage. Obviously I don't know but I imagine your feelings/reaction may be changed faced with the reality of the situation.
We have to come round to the fact that this is a no win situation they are putting us under - every hostage they have is going to suffer at the hands of these barbaric monsters ... IS need to be wiped from the face of this earth and the only way that can be done is by putting some serious boots on the ground.
The flak will no doubt follow but that is the only option open to us and we gotta accept that sooner rather than later.
I agree. This situation has passed tipping point. It's very easy at this point to get over-emotional and let our (justified) anger take over but I am in no doubt that the only way to solve this problem now is complete extermination.
These extremists are never going to negotiate, never going to listen to reason or be willing to compromise. If they are captured they will never be rehabilitated. In fact they would probably die rather than allow themselves to be captured.
Even if every Western nation on earth pulled all of its military and business interests, personnel etc. out of the entire Middle East tomorrow it wouldn't be enough because even if by some miracle they left us alone we could not stand by and watch them continue to slaughter people living in their own lands
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How do you fight back with handcuffs on?
Do you think they would kill them, if they did fight back they would just torture them.
They have been captured to publically be executed not to be shot dead if they kick out and scream at them.
I thought capital punishment was abolished in the sixties? 1998 are you sure?
Or plant bombs in our cities with the intention of killing as many of their fellow British citizens as possible.
They were not killed at the same time as Sotloff had facial hair in his beheading.
They will take them out for mock executions or torture them with water boarding or crucifying them. I don't think many SAS soldiers would stand up well to that treatment let alone civilians.
Not any more. All death penalties are prohibited in the UK currently.
Plus the killer tends to refer to very recent actions in his ranting.
I agree.
We need to throw some serious military hardware at these bastards and come down like a ton of bricks on anyone expressing support for them in the UK.
Yes, in the sixties it was abolished for murder but retained for a number of other crimes such as treason; arson in a naval dockyard, spying and piracy.... also for military crimes like mutiny. All of that was changed in 1998.
It will get messy, very messy.
Strange how you never see Pakistanis at Remembrance Day ceremonies or repatriation of our dead servicemen.
Exactly.
But the government and lefty PC morons would rather let that happen than "offend" anyone.
I'd imagine members of our army are wanting to go in and kick some ass right now as are the americans. Doesn't even seem like a normal 'war' situation. It's a group of terrorists/idiots hell bent on turning nations into a muslim state and they will kill anyone who stands in their way.
Ah ok thanks. That makes sense. They wouldn't wanna try it with me when I'm in manic mode though.. Haha.. They wouldn't be getting the response they wanted however much shit they put me through >.<
I hope the Americans or someone else gets to him first.
Well, that's not strictly true.
Muslims have been known to attend repatriation parades and call for the death of British soldiers, amongst other things.
OK, I'll bite: what are you actually proposing be done?
Trust me, if the govt suspect British muslims of terrorist leanings they'll be watching them 24/7.
I agree Tom.Ever seen that film 'Children Of Men'?.With Clive Owen.That's the future of the UK.Apart from the infertile bit.
The riots,the bombings,the internment camps,the paramilitary Police,the mass immigration.It's already happening.
I'd rather we just dropped a bomb on his head.
Oh sorry.I forgot about those British Citizens in Luton and elsewhere.
As British as you and I apparently....:(
I'm proposing we send our troops into Syria.
I'm also proposing a UK version of Guantanamo Bay for anyone supporting IS.
I imagine that's a lot easier to say when you're not the person held hostage. Obviously I don't know but I imagine your feelings/reaction may be changed faced with the reality of the situation.
I agree. This situation has passed tipping point. It's very easy at this point to get over-emotional and let our (justified) anger take over but I am in no doubt that the only way to solve this problem now is complete extermination.
These extremists are never going to negotiate, never going to listen to reason or be willing to compromise. If they are captured they will never be rehabilitated. In fact they would probably die rather than allow themselves to be captured.
Even if every Western nation on earth pulled all of its military and business interests, personnel etc. out of the entire Middle East tomorrow it wouldn't be enough because even if by some miracle they left us alone we could not stand by and watch them continue to slaughter people living in their own lands