BBC One
14:00 Rugby League: Challenge Cup Quarter-Final: 0.78M (8.2%)
17:00 F1: Grand Prix Qualifying Live: 2.43M (16.6%)
19:20 BBC News: 2.26M (11.6%)
19:30 BBC Regional News: 2.48M (12.1%)
19:40 Pointless: 2.74M (13.1%)
20:30 The National Lottery: In It to Win It: 2.69M (12.1%)
21:20 Casualty: 3.55M (16.4%)
22:10 BBC News: 3.39M (17.1%)
22:30 Mrs Brown's Boys: 2.97M (17.1%)
BBC Two
11:20 Wimbledon Classic: 0.32M (4.0%)
13:20 F1: Grand Prix Practice: 0.73M (8.2%)
14:55 F1: Grand Prix Practice: 0.85M (8.8%)
18:05 Flog It!: 1.33M (8.6%)
20:00 Yes, Prime Minister: 0.74M (3.5%)
20:30 I Love 1980: 1.08M (4.9%)
22:00 French and Saunders: 1.01M (5.0%)
22:30 Victoria Wood: As Seen on TV: 0.92M (5.3%)
itv
08:30 Weekend: 0.16M (2.5%)
13:30 French Open Tennis Live: 0.92M (9.3%)
19:00 Britain's Got Talent: Live Final: 10.32M (49.0%) / 10.81M (51.3%) inc. +1 *peak audience: 12.67M (55.3%);
*average broadly in line with last year's 11.12M inc. +1.
21:30 International Football: England v Honduras: 5.18M (35.6%) / 5.25M (36.1%) inc. +1 *peak audience: 7.2M at 23:00;
*peak share: 54.2% at 00:10.
01:00 ITV News: 0.87M (20.1%)
01:15 Jackpot247: 0.43M (13.5%)
Channel 4
13:00 The Investec Derby 2014: 0.77M (8.3%) *peak: 1.5M at 16:05;
*peak audience down 25% y-o-y;
*lowest audience this century.
19:00 Restoration Man: 0.46M (2.4%)
20:00 Grand Designs: 0.46M (2.1%)
21:00 My Sister's Keeper: 0.60M (2.9%)
Channel 5
19:40 NCIS: 0.47M (2.2%)
20:35 NCIS: 0.61M (2.7%)
21:30 Big Brother: 0.85M (4.1%) / 0.95M inc. +1 *down 27% on first Saturday highlights last year.
22:30 Big Brother's Bit on the Psych: 0.39M (2.5%)
itv2
21:30 Britain's Got More Talent: 0.52M *down 57% on last year's series finale.
BBC ONE
2.00-4.30pm: Rugby League - Challenge Cup Quarter-Final: 0.78m (8.2%)
5.00-7.20pm: F1 Qualifying: 2.43m (16.6%)
BBC TWO
11.20am-1.20pm: Wimbledon Classic - 2008 final: 0.32m (4.0%)
1.20-2.55pm: F1 Practice 2 repeat: 0.73m (8.2%)
2.55-4.05pm: F1 Practice 3 live: 0.85m (8.8%)
ITV
1.30-5.35pm: French Open Women's Final: 0.92m (9.3%)
C4
1.00-4.30pm The Derby: 0.77m (8.3%)
Going to do a bit of re-ordering:
5.00-7.20pm: F1 Qualifying: 2.43m (16.6%)
1.30-5.35pm: French Open Women's Final: 0.92m (9.3%)
2.55-4.05pm: F1 Practice 3 live: 0.85m (8.8%)
2.00-4.30pm: Rugby League - Challenge Cup Quarter-Final: 0.78m (8.2%)
1.00-4.30pm The Derby: 0.77m (8.3%)
1.20-2.55pm: F1 Practice 2 repeat: 0.73m (8.2%)
11.20am-1.20pm: Wimbledon Classic - 2008 final: 0.32m (4.0%)
I know the F1 Practice rating is just the actual session, but combined with Sky F1's 142k (1.5%) means that its average was about 1.0m. Which is stunning in its own right, and shows how poorly the rugby and the Derby did.
Wow! Everything really low. Seems the whole world isn't as obsessed with sport as the broadcasters seem to assume they are!
Well, look at what sport it was, one of them's got the word "practice" in the title which shows you how important that is in the grand scheme of things. The quarter finals of the Challenge Cup isn't something that gets the mass audience excited and the French Open comes a poor, poor, poor second to Wimbledon for most viewers. They were also all very long programmes. The only one that's a genuine disappointment would probably the Derby, given that's on the A list of the Crown Jewels and is therefore considered a flagship sporting event (although that's been questionable for many years, and is more to do with its history than its current relevance).
You'd certainly see something different when the rugby league is the final, the F1 is the race, the tennis is Wimbledon and the racing is the Grand National. The fact the football was getting several million viewers at midnight later on illustrates that.
What it does show us, however, is that those who suggest Grandstand should be back would appear to be mistaken because there's clearly little interest in watching sport on Saturday afternoons for the sake of it just because it's Saturday afternoon. Viewers want to watch sport when the sport is going on and when it's convenient for them.
The French Open Mens Final looks set to overun. The schedule for it is due to finish at 5.45pm with news then and then Soccer Aid at 6pm. But they are still playing the 4th set and the presentation is still to come. Soccer Aid will be starting late unless Itv moves the tennis to Itv4 mid-set.
Now that IS inexcusable! Surely the powers that be must have sensed match point was imminent! Last night was out of ITV's control. This wasn't. By the time people switched over they may have missed it!
The more the year goes on the more of a joke ITV are appearing. They had no reason to cut at that point - they could have easily waited until the end of the set. It's only Soccer Aid they're putting off.
And people wonder why the audience prefers the
BBC when it comes to live events.
You reckon? You obviously weren't around here last November! DW creates levels of emotion on every thread it's discussed upon.
Sarcasm doesn't become you. !!!
Well actually I was here last November, so you are wrong, your memory needs improving.
Over the years DW has been mentioned in here, but seldom does it raise the bar compared to what happens in the DW section of the forum. Even the one off about the 50 year special didn't do so, so ongoing it is not likely to raise the passions.
The more the year goes on the more of a joke ITV are appearing. They had no reason to cut at that point - they could have easily waited until the end of the set. It's only Soccer Aid they're putting off.
And people wonder why the audience prefers the
BBC when it comes to live events.
It was a ridiculous decision by Itv, theyve received a lot of criticism on twitter for pulling away from the French Open final at such a vital point. They switched at 5.41pm, they shouldve seen through that game at the very least given that Nadal was on the tip of winning the match. Another awful decision by Itv schedulers.
I think it will decline again, but there are another three series to go. We'll know when it is flatlining is when The Sun and The Daily Star stop having it as headline news.
I am shocked that anyone is shocked at this, nobody is really expecting ITV to give it extensive coverage duplicating what the BBC does. If viewers wanted an alternative (for whatever reason) they could get it on Sky News so what is the point of doing it in triplicate? What else should a PSB cover? The Cenotaph? Well, they've never done that, even when ITV was in its pomp and had money coming out of its ears? Trooping The Colour? They've never done that either. This is not some mass lurch downmarket because it's expecting them to do something they never did to any great extent in the seventies and eighties.
They covered the D Day events ten years ago mostly because it was a Sunday, but they didn't do it live in 1994 when it was a Monday, so why complain now when they didn't then? What they did do, though, as they've done this time, is include anniversary stuff in their normal programming. In 1994 they did a D Day-related plotline in Coronation Street involving Percy Sugden going to Normandy. That almost certainly reached more people, and a wider range of people, than any of the dedicated D Day programming did. The same will be true here, including coverage in the news programme was a more effective use of resources for ITV and reached an audience who wouldn't have sought out extensive rolling coverage.
Yes, they cover Royal Weddings and stuff because they're events that appeal to the ITV audience in large numbers in a way the D Day commemorations, important and moving as they are, don't. Absolutely nobody on Friday was annoyed ITV didn't cover the D Day commemorations. They either watched them on the Beeb or Sky or didn't watch them at all. Real viewers simply find what channel is showing them and watch them. They're not in the business of demanding them to be on two channels so they can make comparisons. They'll watch it where it's shown.
ITV have never shown as many of these events as the Beeb, even when Alastair Burnet was about and ITN was a massive organisation, because there are some events where the Beeb coverage will do. To be shocked at them not doing it now is to have totally forgotten the past fifty years of ITV and expect it to be something it isn't.
Brilliant post, sums it up really well.
Nobody really was shocked, they were faux shocked so they could moan and whinge, and also so they didn't have a chance of mentioning that 'ITV were battered' etc.
It was a ridiculous decision by Itv, theyve received a lot of criticism on twitter for pulling away from the French Open final at such a vital point. They switched at 5.41pm, they shouldve seen through that game at the very least given that Nadal was on the tip of winning the match. Another awful decision by Itv schedulers.
If not at the end of the set then they could have waited for the set to be level then switch; at least they would have been guaranteed two service games on ITV4. Though not everyone can get ITV4 which makes it even more problematic.
I think it will decline again, but there are another three series to go. We'll know when it is flatlining is when The Sun and The Daily Star stop having it as headline news.
That could be quite a while, it's not comparable to say Big Brother on Channel 4 it's on the prime commercial channel and has been a hugely successful brand over the years.
Here's some of the series averages for several US shows this year:
(NOTE: some of these shows were divided into two parts when they took a hiatus in American - therefore shown over 2013/14).
Arrow (Sky1): 959k (inc +1: 1.03m approx. as 7 eps failed to reach the Sky1+1 Top 10)
Game of Thrones (Sky Atlantic): 1.57m (inc +1: 1.66m)*
Hawaii Five-O (Sky1): 830k (inc +1: 938k)*
Revolution (Sky1): 607k (inc +1: 680k)
The Blacklist (Sky Living): 823k (inc +1: 957k)
The Following (Sky Atlantic): 735k (inc +1: 831k) Ep.13 rating currently unavailable as not on BARB yet
The Originals (Syfy): 234k (inc +1: 282k) Awaiting one final rating for season finale
The Tomorrow People (E4): 941k (no +1 as most ratings failed to make the E4+1 Top 10. Also awaiting final two ratings for Eps 21 & 22).
The Walking Dead (FOX): 841k (inc +1: 945k)
* = still airing
Some very nice figures here for some shows. GoT the obvious stand out rating. Once the simulcast was included in the season opener ratings, the figure topped 2m! Arrow has had a very solid second season - however the numbers fell when they moved it to Thursday nights in February. The Blacklist had a similar problem. Part 1 did very well but the long hiatus killed the momentum and the numbers fell for its second part. The Following continued strongly on Sky Atlantic, whilst The Originals has done OK for Syfy (deserves much more IMO). Revolution crashed and burned after a high rating season one but the move to Sunday then Saturday nights didn't help matters. The Walking Dead enjoyed another strong season - part 2 was much stronger when they shifted it to Monday nights. E4 are really going to miss The Tomorrow People. A very solid performer. If the +1 numbers were available it would probably have a series average of around 1m. They're really going to miss that show.
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BBC One
14:00 Rugby League: Challenge Cup Quarter-Final: 0.78M (8.2%)
17:00 F1: Grand Prix Qualifying Live: 2.43M (16.6%)
19:20 BBC News: 2.26M (11.6%)
19:30 BBC Regional News: 2.48M (12.1%)
19:40 Pointless: 2.74M (13.1%)
20:30 The National Lottery: In It to Win It: 2.69M (12.1%)
21:20 Casualty: 3.55M (16.4%)
22:10 BBC News: 3.39M (17.1%)
22:30 Mrs Brown's Boys: 2.97M (17.1%)
BBC Two
11:20 Wimbledon Classic: 0.32M (4.0%)
13:20 F1: Grand Prix Practice: 0.73M (8.2%)
14:55 F1: Grand Prix Practice: 0.85M (8.8%)
18:05 Flog It!: 1.33M (8.6%)
20:00 Yes, Prime Minister: 0.74M (3.5%)
20:30 I Love 1980: 1.08M (4.9%)
22:00 French and Saunders: 1.01M (5.0%)
22:30 Victoria Wood: As Seen on TV: 0.92M (5.3%)
itv
08:30 Weekend: 0.16M (2.5%)
13:30 French Open Tennis Live: 0.92M (9.3%)
19:00 Britain's Got Talent: Live Final: 10.32M (49.0%) / 10.81M (51.3%) inc. +1
*peak audience: 12.67M (55.3%);
*average broadly in line with last year's 11.12M inc. +1.
21:30 International Football: England v Honduras: 5.18M (35.6%) / 5.25M (36.1%) inc. +1
*peak audience: 7.2M at 23:00;
*peak share: 54.2% at 00:10.
01:00 ITV News: 0.87M (20.1%)
01:15 Jackpot247: 0.43M (13.5%)
Channel 4
13:00 The Investec Derby 2014: 0.77M (8.3%)
*peak: 1.5M at 16:05;
*peak audience down 25% y-o-y;
*lowest audience this century.
19:00 Restoration Man: 0.46M (2.4%)
20:00 Grand Designs: 0.46M (2.1%)
21:00 My Sister's Keeper: 0.60M (2.9%)
Channel 5
19:40 NCIS: 0.47M (2.2%)
20:35 NCIS: 0.61M (2.7%)
21:30 Big Brother: 0.85M (4.1%) / 0.95M inc. +1
*down 27% on first Saturday highlights last year.
22:30 Big Brother's Bit on the Psych: 0.39M (2.5%)
itv2
21:30 Britain's Got More Talent: 0.52M
*down 57% on last year's series finale.
BBC Four
21:00 Wallander: 0.73M (3.4%)
Sources
Digital Spy, TV Ratings UK, Racing Post, D.M.N. [DS], C14E [DS], ronant [DS].
Don't forget Doctor Who as well!
Going to do a bit of re-ordering:
5.00-7.20pm: F1 Qualifying: 2.43m (16.6%)
1.30-5.35pm: French Open Women's Final: 0.92m (9.3%)
2.55-4.05pm: F1 Practice 3 live: 0.85m (8.8%)
2.00-4.30pm: Rugby League - Challenge Cup Quarter-Final: 0.78m (8.2%)
1.00-4.30pm The Derby: 0.77m (8.3%)
1.20-2.55pm: F1 Practice 2 repeat: 0.73m (8.2%)
11.20am-1.20pm: Wimbledon Classic - 2008 final: 0.32m (4.0%)
I know the F1 Practice rating is just the actual session, but combined with Sky F1's 142k (1.5%) means that its average was about 1.0m. Which is stunning in its own right, and shows how poorly the rugby and the Derby did.
Well, look at what sport it was, one of them's got the word "practice" in the title which shows you how important that is in the grand scheme of things. The quarter finals of the Challenge Cup isn't something that gets the mass audience excited and the French Open comes a poor, poor, poor second to Wimbledon for most viewers. They were also all very long programmes. The only one that's a genuine disappointment would probably the Derby, given that's on the A list of the Crown Jewels and is therefore considered a flagship sporting event (although that's been questionable for many years, and is more to do with its history than its current relevance).
You'd certainly see something different when the rugby league is the final, the F1 is the race, the tennis is Wimbledon and the racing is the Grand National. The fact the football was getting several million viewers at midnight later on illustrates that.
What it does show us, however, is that those who suggest Grandstand should be back would appear to be mistaken because there's clearly little interest in watching sport on Saturday afternoons for the sake of it just because it's Saturday afternoon. Viewers want to watch sport when the sport is going on and when it's convenient for them.
Great !!!! >:(
Doesn't generate the same level of emotion, at least on this thread.
Now that IS inexcusable! Surely the powers that be must have sensed match point was imminent! Last night was out of ITV's control. This wasn't. By the time people switched over they may have missed it!
You reckon? You obviously weren't around here last November! DW creates levels of emotion on every thread it's discussed upon.
Maybe God doesnt love ITV after all. ;-)
X Factor will get the lowest ratings ever.
And people wonder why the audience prefers the
BBC when it comes to live events.
Sarcasm doesn't become you. !!!
Well actually I was here last November, so you are wrong, your memory needs improving.
Over the years DW has been mentioned in here, but seldom does it raise the bar compared to what happens in the DW section of the forum. Even the one off about the 50 year special didn't do so, so ongoing it is not likely to raise the passions.
I think it will decline again, but there are another three series to go. We'll know when it is flatlining is when The Sun and The Daily Star stop having it as headline news.
Nobody really was shocked, they were faux shocked so they could moan and whinge, and also so they didn't have a chance of mentioning that 'ITV were battered' etc.
If not at the end of the set then they could have waited for the set to be level then switch; at least they would have been guaranteed two service games on ITV4. Though not everyone can get ITV4 which makes it even more problematic.
HAHAHAHA! What?
That could be quite a while, it's not comparable to say Big Brother on Channel 4 it's on the prime commercial channel and has been a hugely successful brand over the years.
(NOTE: some of these shows were divided into two parts when they took a hiatus in American - therefore shown over 2013/14).
Arrow (Sky1): 959k (inc +1: 1.03m approx. as 7 eps failed to reach the Sky1+1 Top 10)
Game of Thrones (Sky Atlantic): 1.57m (inc +1: 1.66m)*
Hawaii Five-O (Sky1): 830k (inc +1: 938k)*
Revolution (Sky1): 607k (inc +1: 680k)
The Blacklist (Sky Living): 823k (inc +1: 957k)
The Following (Sky Atlantic): 735k (inc +1: 831k) Ep.13 rating currently unavailable as not on BARB yet
The Originals (Syfy): 234k (inc +1: 282k) Awaiting one final rating for season finale
The Tomorrow People (E4): 941k (no +1 as most ratings failed to make the E4+1 Top 10. Also awaiting final two ratings for Eps 21 & 22).
The Walking Dead (FOX): 841k (inc +1: 945k)
* = still airing
Some very nice figures here for some shows. GoT the obvious stand out rating. Once the simulcast was included in the season opener ratings, the figure topped 2m! Arrow has had a very solid second season - however the numbers fell when they moved it to Thursday nights in February. The Blacklist had a similar problem. Part 1 did very well but the long hiatus killed the momentum and the numbers fell for its second part. The Following continued strongly on Sky Atlantic, whilst The Originals has done OK for Syfy (deserves much more IMO). Revolution crashed and burned after a high rating season one but the move to Sunday then Saturday nights didn't help matters. The Walking Dead enjoyed another strong season - part 2 was much stronger when they shifted it to Monday nights. E4 are really going to miss The Tomorrow People. A very solid performer. If the +1 numbers were available it would probably have a series average of around 1m. They're really going to miss that show.
There is a chance it will. Last years final had the lowest figures since 2005.