Helicopter crashes into pub in Glasgow

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  • Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    Poor visibility was a factor as I recall.
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    Weather and lack of safety procedures
    Mark. wrote: »
    The full report is still to come out, but so far it's weather and safety that seems to be to blame.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Vauxhall_helicopter_crash#Investigation

    cheers
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Posts: 22,332
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    Kay Burley bound to appear soon
  • lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    nethwen wrote: »
    Thanks. The helicopter dropped like a stone out of the sky according to Jim Murphy MP, who witnessed it from a car park.

    Very odd. Helicopters shouldn't just "drop like a stone", even if the engine cuts out. It should be possible to glide them down.
  • U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Very odd. Helicopters shouldn't just "drop like a stone", even if the engine cuts out. It should be possible to glide them down.

    Not so.That's a glider you're thinking about.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,313
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Very odd. Helicopters shouldn't just "drop like a stone", even if the engine cuts out. It should be possible to glide them down.

    Exactly. The rotors would slow not suddenly stop?
  • edExedEx Posts: 13,460
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Very odd. Helicopters shouldn't just "drop like a stone", even if the engine cuts out. It should be possible to glide them down.
    Makes it sound like something pretty catastrophic occurred.
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Very odd. Helicopters shouldn't just "drop like a stone", even if the engine cuts out. It should be possible to glide them down.

    Murphy was very distressed (understandably) so may have got it wrong.

    Lots of conflicting reports from witnesses. Some say it dropped suddenly and others say it cartwheeled. Others say it was circling and clearly in distress

    Dark night. Shock in effect. Can see why it's unclear
  • SlugerSluger Posts: 861
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    Local reports say 2 dead.
  • Thunder LipsThunder Lips Posts: 1,660
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    Is there really anything to be gained from looking up helicopter models, investigating precise causes, debating what they coulda-woulda-shoulda done mere minutes after the event? Christ almighty.
  • nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    Sluger wrote: »
    Local reports say 2 dead.

    How sad. :(
  • CaltonfanCaltonfan Posts: 6,311
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    You would never be able to tell gordon smart worked for the sun would you?

    Thoughts are with all involved, hoping that everyone gets out safely
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,313
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    Is there really anything to be gained from looking up helicopter models, investigating precise causes, debating what they coulda-woulda-shoulda done mere minutes after the event? Christ almighty.

    I think people are simply discussing what's on the news at the moment?
  • Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    Is there really anything to be gained from looking up helicopter models, investigating precise causes, debating what they coulda-woulda-shoulda done mere minutes after the event? Christ almighty.

    yes right away by the experts in charge
  • TheWireRulesTheWireRules Posts: 1,307
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    Sluger wrote: »
    Local reports say 2 dead.

    Source?
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  • Everything GoesEverything Goes Posts: 12,972
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    The Police Helicopter crashed in Muirkirk back in 2002 which I remember well :eek:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/1826661.stm
  • nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    One witness implying that helicopter landed on roof, then the roof started to come down slowly. Although she says she was round the corner from the impact, listening to the band when it happened.
  • Thine WonkThine Wonk Posts: 17,190
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    Sluger wrote: »

    Somebody overhearing something and then posting it on Twitter isn't what i'd call a local report.
  • Joni MJoni M Posts: 70,225
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    Is there really anything to be gained from looking up helicopter models, investigating precise causes, debating what they coulda-woulda-shoulda done mere minutes after the event? Christ almighty.

    It's not crass or ghoulish though, I think people are just being informative.
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Posts: 22,332
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    Is there really anything to be gained from looking up helicopter models, investigating precise causes, debating what they coulda-woulda-shoulda done mere minutes after the event? Christ almighty.

    It fills the demand for news these days

    Even the might CNN are covering this with basically still twitter shots

    Interesting to hear a witness inside the pub describe it happening very slowly, compared to those outside and their reports of a sudden drop
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    I do wonder about the benefits versus risks of flying police helicopters over cities all the time. Have they stopped anything worse than the crashes they've been involved in? It's the same with police car chases. It really needs to be looked at.
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    delected
  • Thunder LipsThunder Lips Posts: 1,660
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    Odd Socks wrote: »
    I think people are simply discussing what's on the news at the moment?
    Some people are. Meanwhile some vultures have got their trench coats on already.
  • duckymallardduckymallard Posts: 13,936
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    kws wrote: »
    I do wonder about the benefits versus risks of flying police helicopters over cities all the time. Have they stopped anything worse than the crashes they've been involved in? It's the same with police car chases. It really needs to be looked at.

    The base for the helicopter is nearby.
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    I find it quite depressing that the PM 'tweets' about this.

    It's all so impersonal, un needed and almost like a race to say something (whilst saying nothing)
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