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Are you glad that Gareth Roberts is writing an episode for series 5?
If you dont know him he wrote the Shakespeare Code and The Unicorn and the Wasp for Doctor Who already.
I liked the Unicorn and the Wasp it was abit of a farce and was really the last episode of series 4 that was about fun as like it has done every series in new Who it gets darker as you get the the last 5 or 6 episodes.
I found the Shakespeare Code boring but i wasnt a great fan of series 3 it got much stronger from the family of blood two parter.
If you dont know him he wrote the Shakespeare Code and The Unicorn and the Wasp for Doctor Who already.
I liked the Unicorn and the Wasp it was abit of a farce and was really the last episode of series 4 that was about fun as like it has done every series in new Who it gets darker as you get the the last 5 or 6 episodes.
I found the Shakespeare Code boring but i wasnt a great fan of series 3 it got much stronger from the family of blood two parter.
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Liked "The Shakespeare Code"
HATED "The Unicorn and the Wasp" - everything that is wrong with modern Dr Who.
Hopefully he will write something with a bit more depth, realism and sense to it this time.
I especially liked The Unicorn and The Wasp - everything that is great about modern Who!
Hopefully he will go on writing exactly how he wants to!
Chibnall did some great work on Torchwood if you leave aside the dire Day One/Cyberwomen:
Countryside - definitely one of the better and more interesting scripts of series 1
End of Days - didn't quite work, but some deft character touches and a strong ending
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - Arguably the best opening episode of any Who-related series since it's relaunch
Adrift - great characterisation
Fragments - fantastic script.
Exit Wounds - see above.
As for Cornell, he has only actually written one story for the series so far, and that was an adaptation from a prior series and RTD helped out quite a lot with it. I'd like to see him do more, but I don't see why it would be shocking to anyone he isn't doing a story.
other way round for me, i hated the shakespeare code just thought it was shite
His writing does seem shallow to me aswell.
Paul Cornell has actually written THREE episodes.
Season 1 - He wrote "Father's Day"
Season 3 - He wrote "Human Nature" & "Family of Blood"
i said he had done one story - human nature/fob is one story, but yeah your right about Fathers Day. I always forget that episode. Funny really, it's not a bad episode but I find it really forgetable. Anyways, point still stands - he isn't a regular writer for who related tv series so why would anyone be shocked he isn't writing for series 5?
Exactly right.
FWIW, I loved HN / FOB but really didn't enjoy Fathers Day which was very familiar in its plot and themes.
I am not sure if there is some wider signficance to stcoop's remark?
I could have picked Rob Shearman or any other name. It had nothing to do with the actual question I asked which was how people who like Moffat but dislike Chibnall feel about the former giving him a job writing for the next series.
Is this some in-joke?
I don't understand the question really.
Are you really pro-Moffat or something or anti-Moffat?
Seems as if you are attempting to bait some people though I don't know who.
there isnt a list yet but some of the writers agents and some of the writers them selves have confirmed that they are writing episodes i think there is another thread with the list but i cant rememeber what one sorry.
some of the writers that have been confirmed that i know of are.
of course Steven Moffat
Gareth Roberts
Richard Curtis
Mark Gatiss
thats all i know so far.
Not been officially announced yet. Steven Moffat, Mark Gatiss, Gareth Roberts, Richard Curtis, Toby Whithouse and Chris Chibnall (2 episodes) are in though.
Zzzzzzzz
I'm not sure it'd matter. Even if they got Lawrence Miles himself in (ha ha), the BBC are unlikely to let anyone deviate from the highly successful RTD formula that's got 'em shed loads of kudos and the UK's number one rated drama series. Series 5 won't be that different to 1-4. Not that that is a bad thing, in my humble opinion.
I agree with this analysis 100%...
... except the last line, of course
But I am glad he is writing for the next series.
In my opinion, Gareth Roberts represents to current Doctor Who what Pip and Jane Baker did to 1980s Who.
What bothers me is that, knowing how brilliantly skilled and talented Moffat is, I am mystified why he would use someone like Gareth Roberts - Planet Of The Dead, The Unicorn And The Wasp, and the Shakespeare Code, are amongst the least popular of all New Who.
I am not a fan, and in my eyes, he has yet to turn in a decent script - his episodes have only been saved from embarrassment by great sets, acting, and directing.
With stunning writers like Paul Cornell and Mark Gatiss around, as well as Moffat himself, it just beggars the imagination.
Well maybe they hire him to make there episodes look better when compared to his
and sorry dont know much but who are Pip and Jane Baker?
I know they wrote Terror of the Vervoids and The Ultimate Foe Part 2, But I cant think what else...
Anyway, TotV is mediocre, pretty much Bog-standard who, but nonetheless enjoyable. And I think, given the circumstances, TUF pt2 is a cracking episode! Like VoV too.
agreed i really enjoyed VoV
Vengeance on Varos was written by Philip Martin
Pip and Jane Baker also wrote Mark of the Rani and Time and the Rani