even if the data was up to date on day 1, they need a mechanism for maintaining it as places close and open, streets are closed, new buildings added etc.
Saying "its hard to keep maps up to date" doesn't cut it. Google Maps manages OK.
http://www.imore.com/apple-maps-one-year-later-good-bad-future
Ignore the sycophantic gorgeous hyperbole about what they have done(Have they really?) and read the comments.
What else have they done but near zilch and removing the danger of death errors?
I really get the impression this was an unfixable cobbled together hotch potch of maps that needs a full replacement.
http://www.imore.com/apple-maps-one-year-later-good-bad-future
Ignore the sycophantic gorgeous hyperbole about what they have done(Have they really?) and read the comments.
What else have they done but near zilch and removing the danger of death errors?
I really get the impression this was an unfixable cobbled together hotch potch of maps that needs a full replacement.
From their straw poll over 70% responded one of:
Works perfectly. No major problems. 21.37% (1,142 votes)
Gotten much better, still needs some work. 33.52% (1,791 votes)
Improved some, still nowhere nearly enough. 19.73%
How does that give you the impression that they have ignored or binned most of the errors they've been advised of?
Is it not likely that there are a huge number of errors to fix, and fixing them takes a long time?
With the comment, people are far more likely to comment about problems than comment that there are no problems.
Don't get me wrong, there was a lot wrong with Maps when it was released, and I would have no doubt its a long way behind Google Maps.
And I would expect it is taking a long time to catch up - but I would doubt they don't care, or are ignoring and binning reported errors.
.How does that give you the impression that they have ignored or binned most of the errors they've been advised of?...With the comment, people are far more likely to comment about problems than comment that there are no problems.
Click polls are fanboy polls. I usually find that hard to join in the tribalism and click a plus for my favourite.
http://www.imore.com/apple-maps-one-year-later-good-bad-future
Ignore the sycophantic gorgeous hyperbole about what they have done(Have they really?) and read the comments.
What else have they done but near zilch and removing the danger of death errors?
I really get the impression this was an unfixable cobbled together hotch potch of maps that needs a full replacement.
So you link to an article and then basically say ignore it and read the comments underneath
Click polls are fanboy polls. I usually find that hard to join in the tribalism and click a plus for my favourite.
With comments you can always ignore the chaff.
The results of the poll contradict the impression you have, so it gets dismissed. Got it.
As I said above - with the comments people are always more likely to post about negative experiences, than positive experiences. And before anyone shouts me down, that has nothing to do with Apple. Its a universal truism - look up "negativity bias".
Basically your "impression" that they don't care and are ignoring reports of errors is wrong.
"Apple made two big mistakes with Maps: it launched too early, and it didn't give the project sufficient resources. It can't do much about the former but it's definitely learned its lesson with the latter: over the last year, Apple has been putting its money where its maps are.
It has hired multiple "Maps Ground Truth Managers", whose role is to improve Maps' accuracy. It bought HopStop, which specialised in public transport mapping and information, and Embark, which does much the same. It also bought indoor mapping company WifiSLAM and the crowdsourced data firm Locationary, whose business was based on ensuring businesses' entries in mapping services were accurate."
Comments
Its not about loving them.
Its about realising that there's no quick fix to the problems with the Maps app.
Perhaps if there is no quick fix then they should concede how poor it is and remove it for a few years until they can afford to fix it do you agree?
Saying "its hard to keep maps up to date" doesn't cut it. Google Maps manages OK.
However, the 3D maps (in London) and the navigation systems (which I've only seen a few times) seem to work very well.
Google maps also are also not perfect by a long way, but then both are dealing with a huge amount of information.
The did concede it wasn't perfect. But its not so bad that it needs to be pulled.
What has your personal experience of it been?
I'm guessing "none whatsoever".
I get the impression that 1000's of map users have been diligently reporting errors since last October.
But Apple has ignored/binned most and are simply readying a full and different map replacement to 'eventually' go live.
Like Google and Amazon they are paying no corporation tax.
In the more respectable pre-internet days, prestige hardware was Rolls Royce like helping the local economy.
Unlike you, I am not privy to what Apple are doing with reported errors. So I'll have to take your word for it that they are being binned.
I had assumed they were probably focusing on the US first, although they have recently hired people to work on this outside the US recently.
Basically, I assumed it was just a massive job that isn't going to be fixed overnight.
I didn't realise they were working on completely new map data from scratch though - do you have any more info on that?
http://www.imore.com/apple-maps-one-year-later-good-bad-future
Ignore the sycophantic gorgeous hyperbole about what they have done(Have they really?) and read the comments.
What else have they done but near zilch and removing the danger of death errors?
I really get the impression this was an unfixable cobbled together hotch potch of maps that needs a full replacement.
That depends on what they think their customers will accept I would suppose and what their expectations are and it seems they are not very high
How does my personal experience make this appalling mess of an application any better or worse exactly
From their straw poll over 70% responded one of:
Works perfectly. No major problems. 21.37% (1,142 votes)
Gotten much better, still needs some work. 33.52% (1,791 votes)
Improved some, still nowhere nearly enough. 19.73%
How does that give you the impression that they have ignored or binned most of the errors they've been advised of?
Is it not likely that there are a huge number of errors to fix, and fixing them takes a long time?
With the comment, people are far more likely to comment about problems than comment that there are no problems.
Don't get me wrong, there was a lot wrong with Maps when it was released, and I would have no doubt its a long way behind Google Maps.
And I would expect it is taking a long time to catch up - but I would doubt they don't care, or are ignoring and binning reported errors.
Well, you are very quick to criticise, so I'm just wondering what your personal experience has been.
If your personal experience is non existent, its OK to say that.
With comments you can always ignore the chaff.
So you link to an article and then basically say ignore it and read the comments underneath
The results of the poll contradict the impression you have, so it gets dismissed. Got it.
As I said above - with the comments people are always more likely to post about negative experiences, than positive experiences. And before anyone shouts me down, that has nothing to do with Apple. Its a universal truism - look up "negativity bias".
Basically your "impression" that they don't care and are ignoring reports of errors is wrong.
"Apple made two big mistakes with Maps: it launched too early, and it didn't give the project sufficient resources. It can't do much about the former but it's definitely learned its lesson with the latter: over the last year, Apple has been putting its money where its maps are.
It has hired multiple "Maps Ground Truth Managers", whose role is to improve Maps' accuracy. It bought HopStop, which specialised in public transport mapping and information, and Embark, which does much the same. It also bought indoor mapping company WifiSLAM and the crowdsourced data firm Locationary, whose business was based on ensuring businesses' entries in mapping services were accurate."
Article link
Its like a 'one bad word and your life ain't worth living'. To me, so many sites seem far too terrified to say anything near pragmatic realness.
BTW If you suffer/read it, it really does give zero information on any changes that have taken place.
Why did you link to it then? Just for the comments below? Do you think they are credible?
Again you fail to answer what relevance that has does my experience make this any less of an embarrassment or less of a pigs ear somehow?
As a rule I would avoid shoddy software such as this and go for well design market leading applications having the choice
In what way do you think this poll was badly worded? It seemed reasonably enough to me.
What has your own personal experience of Maps been?
Or the best of both worlds. Google maps and apple maps on iOS;)