now why that guy is in ESA WRAG and not in the Support Group is a big mystery.
Look at PIP - its just another name for DLA but less people will qualify - in a few years they will replace PIP with something else that will reduce the goal posts even further.
They will keep playing about with the system until its near impossible to make a genuine claim.
Won't stuff like this make tons more people just try get on ESA? There's almost a year backlog of assessments, tribunals and what not as it is. It's going to get ridiculous.
Not really when you have so many people applying for the few jobs
So we should just let people who have been unemployed for that time carry on doing what they are doing? It suggests there is something wrong with either their skill set or their ability to look for work, attending every day seems to make sense to me.
So we should just let people who have been unemployed for that time carry on doing what they are doing? It suggests there is something wrong with either their skill set or their ability to look for work, attending every day seems to make sense to me.
Yes let them carry on, it's not like people cared about them while they were not long term unemployed.
Lets concentrate on the newly unemployed and the young.
Let them get jobs first so that we don't lose another generation, and then when there are jobs left for those who are long term unemployed, help them get those jobs and keep them.
Coffins are usually closed with screws, although cardboard coffins are glued.
Besides, if you think the socialists would reverse the decision, you're having a laugh. There'll be bluster, but deep down they know that it's secretly popular amongst the working population.
Although this is looking at daily signing for people who have completed work programme the Jobcentres can ask people to come in daily, weekly or two weekly.
One thing to remember is that they will have the same number of staff and will still have to see all the people who sign every two weeks on their nominated day.
My guess is that they will need to manage the number of people going through their door so will only have a small% coming in daily
Brilliant idea for long term unemployed. Make it as difficult as possible to the point where gettinga job will feel like the easier, more convenient option.
People who say there are no jobs. Bulls**t - maybe if you didn't feel that some jobs are beneath you! Long term unemployed are unemployed through choice, no other reason and it's time to start "working" for your money by going in far more regularly, or actually working for money.
Brilliant idea for long term unemployed. Make it as difficult as possible to the point where gettinga job will feel like the easier, more convenient option.
People who say there are no jobs. Bulls**t - maybe if you didn't feel that some jobs are beneath you! Long term unemployed are unemployed through choice, no other reason and it's time to start "working" for your money by going in far more regularly, or actually working for money.
I take it when you go to sign on (every day) you get your bus fare paid? If so, then going to sign on is no different than if you had a job interview every day and had to fund that (and get your travel expenses back later). After all, job seeker's allowance is exactly that, something to tide you over whilst you're seeking work.
If you don't get your fares refunded, I can see it costing more to sign on than what you get in benefits, which would be bizarre. I'd certainly be looking for advice from the CAB and my MP!
Won't stuff like this make tons more people just try get on ESA? There's almost a year backlog of assessments, tribunals and what not as it is. It's going to get ridiculous.
common sense no longer exists with this government anymore when it comes to welfare.
they are wasting more money desperately trying ti bully people off benefits than if they just left them on benefits to fester, thats the ironic thing.
So we should just let people who have been unemployed for that time carry on doing what they are doing? It suggests there is something wrong with either their skill set or their ability to look for work, attending every day seems to make sense to me.
The DWPs own pilot project that ran for 2 years on this, proved it does not help people
Probably because of the lack of skilled workers to fill certain roles as well maybe?
This is a silly analogy and I know it but it makes my point. Say there was a vacancy for an astronaut, how many people would have the particular qualifications etc to fill said vacancy?
So many of those roles may require a particular qualification and the jobless won't necessarily be able to apply for them.
There are hundreds of vacancies on the site without a guaranteed wage and commission only and 0 hour contracts etc. Who's going to apply for these jobs and guarantee losing their benefits because they're 'in work' then not make any money..
On benefit street for example, the guy with the young family went to work selling door to door. He didn't make a penny the whole week he was working and he had come off benefits. He was worse off. Too much risk.
they want "work to pay" but bringing wages DOWN and benefits DOWN isn't making work pay whatsoever!
and once again i'm saying it's a MONEY SUPPLY PROBLEM because of the mixture of debt repayment (or for less interest payment more like) and vicious ideology that's causing it!
PRINT MORE MONEY
USE IT TO PAY OFF THE ACTUAL DEBT
AND BE DONE WITH IT
they want "work to pay" but bringing wages DOWN and benefits DOWN isn't making work pay whatsoever!
and once again i'm saying it's a MONEY SUPPLY PROBLEM because of the mixture of debt repayment (or for less interest payment more like) and vicious ideology that's causing it!
PRINT MORE MONEY
USE IT TO PAY OFF THE ACTUAL DEBT
AND BE DONE WITH IT
Agreed and if anything the government has made it harder to get a job. So many companies are getting rid of paid staff or are letting them go naturally by themselves and then getting jsa in on 'trials' to fill the role and the companies are getting paid by the government for doing so! So the companies are getting free staff saving a fortune on wages and getting a reward from the government.
Poundland are a perfect example. Plus one of my friends worked at the Bostin Fittle a local pub which has an indoor play area and she moved on to a better paid position working with kids. The pub is now on their 7th replacement which they are not paying and then when their trials over they move on to the next. That's another example.
Companies are exploiting the scheme and who can blame them really?!
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Why does she have to go every day?
Surely this new policy only affects the long term unemployed?
Has she been given a reason?
Is she long term unemployed? Like over a year? Because that is who this daft idea is for.
It was just another lie (shocker!) like the one about how they support hard working people.
now why that guy is in ESA WRAG and not in the Support Group is a big mystery.
Look at PIP - its just another name for DLA but less people will qualify - in a few years they will replace PIP with something else that will reduce the goal posts even further.
They will keep playing about with the system until its near impossible to make a genuine claim.
Why is it daft? A year is a long time to be unemployed.
So we should just let people who have been unemployed for that time carry on doing what they are doing? It suggests there is something wrong with either their skill set or their ability to look for work, attending every day seems to make sense to me.
Yes let them carry on, it's not like people cared about them while they were not long term unemployed.
Lets concentrate on the newly unemployed and the young.
Let them get jobs first so that we don't lose another generation, and then when there are jobs left for those who are long term unemployed, help them get those jobs and keep them.
It all makes sense.
no it is popular amongst the TORY population >:(
The new rules only came in on Monday 28/4/14.So you might have to go in more or get put on a work placement for 6 months 30 hours per week enjoy.:D
http://www.inspiringwork.org/Media/Default/documents/W2W%20HELP%20TO%20WORK%20PACKAGES.pdf
Although this is looking at daily signing for people who have completed work programme the Jobcentres can ask people to come in daily, weekly or two weekly.
One thing to remember is that they will have the same number of staff and will still have to see all the people who sign every two weeks on their nominated day.
My guess is that they will need to manage the number of people going through their door so will only have a small% coming in daily
People who say there are no jobs. Bulls**t - maybe if you didn't feel that some jobs are beneath you! Long term unemployed are unemployed through choice, no other reason and it's time to start "working" for your money by going in far more regularly, or actually working for money.
600,000 jobs and 2.3 million unemployed.
So for 1.7 million people there are no jobs.
If you don't get your fares refunded, I can see it costing more to sign on than what you get in benefits, which would be bizarre. I'd certainly be looking for advice from the CAB and my MP!
Your kidding
common sense no longer exists with this government anymore when it comes to welfare.
they are wasting more money desperately trying ti bully people off benefits than if they just left them on benefits to fester, thats the ironic thing.
You don't have to stop looking at the UK borders. You're entitled to work anywhere in Europe.
If you have a marketable skill, can work almost anywhere in the world.
So why aren't the 600k jobs filled?
The DWPs own pilot project that ran for 2 years on this, proved it does not help people
Because it takes time to fill a job and there will always be a vacancy that isn't filled yet.
This is a silly analogy and I know it but it makes my point. Say there was a vacancy for an astronaut, how many people would have the particular qualifications etc to fill said vacancy?
So many of those roles may require a particular qualification and the jobless won't necessarily be able to apply for them.
There are hundreds of vacancies on the site without a guaranteed wage and commission only and 0 hour contracts etc. Who's going to apply for these jobs and guarantee losing their benefits because they're 'in work' then not make any money..
On benefit street for example, the guy with the young family went to work selling door to door. He didn't make a penny the whole week he was working and he had come off benefits. He was worse off. Too much risk.
they want "work to pay" but bringing wages DOWN and benefits DOWN isn't making work pay whatsoever!
and once again i'm saying it's a MONEY SUPPLY PROBLEM because of the mixture of debt repayment (or for less interest payment more like) and vicious ideology that's causing it!
PRINT MORE MONEY
USE IT TO PAY OFF THE ACTUAL DEBT
AND BE DONE WITH IT
Poundland are a perfect example. Plus one of my friends worked at the Bostin Fittle a local pub which has an indoor play area and she moved on to a better paid position working with kids. The pub is now on their 7th replacement which they are not paying and then when their trials over they move on to the next. That's another example.
Companies are exploiting the scheme and who can blame them really?!