Strictly- how many more years??

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,317
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    The stupidity of the changes being brought in this year are turning supporters into critics. Yes, it probably is the beginning of the end.
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    HeidiB wrote: »
    The stupidity of the changes being brought in this year are turning supporters into critics. Yes, it probably is the beginning of the end.

    But on the other hand, bringing in the various numbers of sports people I think will liven up the competition and make it more competitive which I think will be make it better viewing.

    Yes it is an entertainment show for us general viewers, but it is also a dancing competition and if I remember rightly from an interview with Erin in the Strictly Story, a few years ago, to the Pros it is a competitive sport.

    For those partnered with a sports person, they will have somebody who knows about needing to put in hard work for the training, to stay focus with the aim of winning.

    For those who aren't paired with a sports person, hopefully this will make their celeb partners up their game.

    It will hopefully make those celebs who are only taking or wanting to take part because they want to boost their flagging careers that taking part in this type of reality show isn't going to work without putting in the extra hard work.

    I am hoping that they will get another 2 series out of it at least and then have big Champion of Champions Competition where they bring back all the champions to compete against each other performing their lowest scoring dances to mark the 10th anniversary.:D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,161
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    boddism wrote: »
    Any reason??


    This year has potential...

    I think you always need to be suspicious when the original format starts to be significantly tampered with as it has in the last few years. Strictly has become more about being the BBC's "jewell in the crown" than actually caring about the dancing and the celebrities in my opinion. In a way I think if it wasn't as popular, maybe just a quite show tucked away on BBC2 it would have more life in it because it doesn't have to live up to the hype. Now, every episode is under ridiculous pressure to be a success and any slight dip in ratings is viewed by the Daily Nazi and other such wonderful publications as "ill-fated", "a drag" and more. I don't want to remember Strictly, when I look back on it, as limping pathetically to the axe.

    I don't know, all I think is that I don't enjoy the show as much as I used to. It's too commercialised, too popular, too messed around with now. If it weren't for Chris & Ola I would not be too bothered at all.

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  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    I've mentioned elsewhere that having watched this programme every year from the first series, I'm afraid I can't muster up much enthusiasm for it any more.
    I feel I'm no longer up to all the hype, in-fighting and contrived drama, so loved by the producers.
    Perhaps it's time for it to go the way of "Big Brother" and for the BBC give us a different Saturday night family entertainment show?


    But for those who still like it, I'm sure it's safe for another few years.

    Only because the BBC, despite our three billion a year and those 400 hundred "suits" they employ on over £100,000 and some a few hundred thousand more a year, can't come up with a suitable family orientated show for a Saturday night which would achieve better ratings "the only criteria applicable."
  • soulmate61soulmate61 Posts: 6,176
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    I've mentioned elsewhere that having watched this programme every year from the first series, I'm afraid I can't muster up much enthusiasm for it any more.
    I feel I'm no longer up to all the hype, in-fighting and contrived drama, so loved by the producers.
    Perhaps it's time for it to go the way of "Big Brother" and for the BBC give us a different Saturday night family entertainment show?

    Strictly is about glamour and the harmony of partnership between a man and a woman. Come Dancing also enjoyed the second advantage, but that proved insufficient when it lost the first and became a tired recipe catering to a niche audience.

    Strictly is about feelgood, and can lose its audience when it makes them angry -- last season's seismic ructions came close.

    If anyone thinks glamour can never fade, well Ulay's beautiful model with perfect skin committed suicide. To shake free from bad memories and survive in the market Ulay had to change its name to Olay.
  • katie_pkatie_p Posts: 10,857
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    I actually agree with the majority of this article:

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/a174128/ex-strictly-star-calls-for-more-changes.html

    "a humourless attitude from the judges and competitive celebrities has ruined the BBC One contest in recent years."

    "An edgy rivalry now stalks the dance floor. There's too much competition, too much vaulting ambition, too much self-obsession. Predictable really."

    "Because like with all big-rating TV formats, a creeping and inevitable metamorphosis has corroded that original simplicity. Strictly is slowly being strangled by its sheer success."




    I actually wanted JS to get lost because he was really annoying, but it's true a couple of years earlier it wouldn't have been such a huge deal... and ironically I don't think he would have gone as far either. It was as though the public were rebelling against how seriously the judges and some of the contestants seem to take the show now.
  • ServalanServalan Posts: 10,167
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    katie_p wrote: »
    I actually agree with the majority of this article:

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/a174128/ex-strictly-star-calls-for-more-changes.html

    "a humourless attitude from the judges and competitive celebrities has ruined the BBC One contest in recent years."

    "An edgy rivalry now stalks the dance floor. There's too much competition, too much vaulting ambition, too much self-obsession. Predictable really."

    "Because like with all big-rating TV formats, a creeping and inevitable metamorphosis has corroded that original simplicity. Strictly is slowly being strangled by its sheer success."


    I actually wanted JS to get lost because he was really annoying, but it's true a couple of years earlier it wouldn't have been such a huge deal... and ironically I don't think he would have gone as far either. It was as though the public were rebelling against how seriously the judges and some of the contestants seem to take the show now.

    I don't think Strictly is being mangled by its own success: last year it was mangled by the producers - who, let's be real, pay the judges so clearly influence what they say (and how they vote) - and who had an agenda of their own about who they thought should be in the final.

    Unfortunately they chose one contestant who was technically brilliant but personally unengaging, plus another who simpered non-stop and was constantly, and very obviously, overmarked. The producers were so stupid that they didn't think the public would clock what they were doing and it backfired on them - massively. Sergeant-gate only exemplified the problem - it was much bigger than that.

    I agree that the judges were overly dismissive of people voting for contestants they liked (as personalities, as well as as dancers). But I don't think we'd've had anything like the furore we had with JS last year with another contestant: Sergeant's profile was a perfect fit with the right-wing broadsheets and they leapt on it as a means of attacking the BBC. The producers and their puppets, the judges, just played straight into the anti-BBC lobby's hands. :mad:

    Bear in mind also that The Spectator is part of that anti-BBC lobby ... why otherwise would they be running articles about the new series before it's even started? :rolleyes:
  • katmobilekatmobile Posts: 10,873
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    bean_of_sb wrote: »
    BB's failure was that it got complacent, they took the 4m viewers for granted and assumed they could show them any old drivel. But that didnt work and 2 years on, the audience has pretty much halved. The BB5 final got 10m viewers, the BB10 one will struggly to get 3.5.

    I would say that Strictly has a few series' left in it.

    I think that the problem with BB is that it thrived on conflict. The first series was interesting because no one including the contestants knew what to expect and the second year was full of people trying to get into the media. After that they needed conflict to keep it interesting but that's only interesting for so long and the fine line between personalities and people you don't want to strangle is a hard one to maintain. I remember watching BB6 thinking this is so depressing why am I watching these awful people and for that reason tried to stay clear of it ever since - with increasing success this year mainly because hubbie gave up on it too.

    Strictly is different as it's about people learning a skill and entertaining the public doing it. Some do more one than the other but at the end of the day there's far more scope for people to get out of it what they want than BB.
  • CaroUKCaroUK Posts: 6,354
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    There has always been an interest in dancing on TV

    Come Dancing survived for many years in its original format and only really vanished because it got lost in late night midweek slots (10pm on tuesdays IIRC) where people forgot it was on or needed to go to bed because they had work next day. Even people who didn't normally like ballroom dancing watched it as it was quite a spectacle in its day (even if we did start to get tired of the Polish dancers for the North East Off Beat section every year!) Some of the formation teams were just amazing to watch.

    Strictly took that idea and added in the celebrity rookies and a set of personable pro dancers and it may have started off with the old Come Dancing audience but by the end they had hooked a whole new generation. Its popular because we can relate to the celebs struggling to come to terms with learning a new skill (or sometimes not!) and at the end of the day its good family entertainment which appeals to all ages.

    Long may it last
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