Why is this connection/activation nonsense still happening with 3 when the network has clearly stated that all users with 4G devices have access to 4G services where they are currently available?
Why is this connection/activation nonsense still happening with 3 when the network has clearly stated that all users with 4G devices have access to 4G services where they are currently available?
It's a shocking pantomime really!
Because people have sim free phones and 3 seem to have 4g / LTE disabled on their sim cards, unless the manufacturer sends out a firmware update.
I had to replace my S3 when I cracked it too many times and got a N5 - I rang 3 CS to find out if I needed to do anything to enable 4G and was told I would get a text message when it was available and that would give instructions.
I was in central Milton Keynes about 40 minutes later and noticed that the signal bar was showing 4G...
so even their customer services don't know how it works properly!
funny some on here state this will free p capacity on Three's 3G yet now Three are going to ditch unlimited tethering.
This I assume is because they dont want people chewing up their 4G capacity within weeks of launch and they refusing to seperate 3G and 4G as packages meaning 3G users are effectively subsidising the 4G users.
funny some on here state this will free p capacity on Three's 3G yet now Three are going to ditch unlimited tethering.
This I assume is because they dont want people chewing up their 4G capacity within weeks of launch and they refusing to seperate 3G and 4G as packages meaning 3G users are effectively subsidising the 4G users.
How can they be, we all pay the same price If you have a handset and pay Three for an upgrade for a suitable handset then you'll get 4G.
they refusing to seperate 3G and 4G as packages meaning 3G users are effectively subsidising the 4G users.
Good point. But then again same goes for unlimited data. Light users pay the same as heavy users, thereby subsidizing the heavy users that cost more to provide for.
Good point. But then again same goes for unlimited data. Light users pay the same as heavy users, thereby subsidizing the heavy users that cost more to provide for.
Probably why a network of 9.5 million customers is starting to feel the pinch of congestion compared to networks with 20+ million customers.
Paying extra for the new stuff isn't "rip off" or "abnormal" its a way to reduce the load until the infrastructure is proven - and those paying for it as early adopters are likely to be more sympathetic to occasional outages ("its new isn't it") than something 10+ years old that should be robust. (But is actually suffering M25 syndrome).
Yesterday I had the chance to check 4G in Newcastle city centre and I have to say I was very underwhelmed by the 4G coverage! According to the coverage checker the city centre is mostly covered and quite a bit of indoor and outdoor coverage too. In the end I managed to get about 30 seconds of 4G. In the image you can see the Three coverage map and then the route I was going in Google Maps.
Yesterday I had the chance to check 4G in Newcastle city centre and I have to say I was very underwhelmed by the 4G coverage! According to the coverage checker the city centre is mostly covered and quite a bit of indoor and outdoor coverage too. In the end I managed to get about 30 seconds of 4G. In the image you can see the Three coverage map and then the route I was going in Google Maps.
It's the same story in Cardiff, most of the centre is covered by "indoor coverage" but it's far from the truth. Hopefully it should improve as more 4G transmitters are switched on.
Yesterday I had the chance to check 4G in Newcastle city centre and I have to say I was very underwhelmed by the 4G coverage! According to the coverage checker the city centre is mostly covered and quite a bit of indoor and outdoor coverage too. In the end I managed to get about 30 seconds of 4G. In the image you can see the Three coverage map and then the route I was going in Google Maps.
same story in London (outside of central London) that the coverage is very weak, didn't dyson say he could move very fast if he wanted to, we're in March 14 now and we've not made much progress.
Yes the coverage says one thing, but in reality I don't know how much of it is true.
It's the same story in Cardiff, most of the centre is covered by "indoor coverage" but it's far from the truth. Hopefully it should improve as more 4G transmitters are switched on.
It's more a case of your phone not switching to 4G.
If you put your phone in 4G only mode then you can get a 4G signal in the pink and blue areas on the map. But when you put it on 3G/4G you'll find that the phone may prefer 3G in weak 4G areas.
In London I put my phone in 4G only and pretty much never lost signal the entire time between Victoria and Wembley. On 3G/4G mode I found that it'd switch a lot more between the two but 4G was very impressive in London.
It's more a case of your phone not switching to 4G.
If you put your phone in 4G only mode then you can get a 4G signal in the pink and blue areas on the map. But when you put it on 3G/4G you'll find that the phone may prefer 3G in weak 4G areas.
In London I put my phone in 4G only and pretty much never lost signal the entire time between Victoria and Wembley. On 3G/4G mode I found that it'd switch a lot more between the two but 4G was very impressive in London.
My phone is set onto LTE preferred but it seems a bit of hastle having to change it every time i'm in a 4G area.
My phone is set onto LTE preferred but it seems a bit of hastle having to change it every time i'm in a 4G area.
And I wouldn't suggest it either. Putting the phone into LTE Only is pointless (due to lack of voice) and the only reason I did it was to test LTE in London last week.
All I'm saying is that you may actually be in a 4G area but where 3G is the preferred signal.
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It's a shocking pantomime really!
Because people have sim free phones and 3 seem to have 4g / LTE disabled on their sim cards, unless the manufacturer sends out a firmware update.
Yeah I'm pretty fed up of waiting too.
Why can't 3 just update the SIMs so that this "LTE flag" is set, rather than relying on the phone manufacturers to bodge their firmware to ignore it?
I was in central Milton Keynes about 40 minutes later and noticed that the signal bar was showing 4G...
so even their customer services don't know how it works properly!
I've no idea. You'd think they would.
A helpful person on here did explain (quite a few) pages back. But I can't totally remember the reason.
This I assume is because they dont want people chewing up their 4G capacity within weeks of launch and they refusing to seperate 3G and 4G as packages meaning 3G users are effectively subsidising the 4G users.
How can they be, we all pay the same price
if you paying for a handset then it isnt free is it?
I dont want 4G I want fast highly available 3G to work with my existing handsets.
Good point. But then again same goes for unlimited data. Light users pay the same as heavy users, thereby subsidizing the heavy users that cost more to provide for.
Paying extra for the new stuff isn't "rip off" or "abnormal" its a way to reduce the load until the infrastructure is proven - and those paying for it as early adopters are likely to be more sympathetic to occasional outages ("its new isn't it") than something 10+ years old that should be robust. (But is actually suffering M25 syndrome).
That's a shame, was hoping the 4G was handle speed better.. maybe too many tethering individuals!
Hi
I have a sim free iPhone 5, Ive had the update since December 2013. I was able to use 4G when I was in Luton/London last month.
Baz
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It's the same story in Cardiff, most of the centre is covered by "indoor coverage" but it's far from the truth. Hopefully it should improve as more 4G transmitters are switched on.
same story in London (outside of central London) that the coverage is very weak, didn't dyson say he could move very fast if he wanted to, we're in March 14 now and we've not made much progress.
Yes the coverage says one thing, but in reality I don't know how much of it is true.
It's more a case of your phone not switching to 4G.
If you put your phone in 4G only mode then you can get a 4G signal in the pink and blue areas on the map. But when you put it on 3G/4G you'll find that the phone may prefer 3G in weak 4G areas.
In London I put my phone in 4G only and pretty much never lost signal the entire time between Victoria and Wembley. On 3G/4G mode I found that it'd switch a lot more between the two but 4G was very impressive in London.
My phone is set onto LTE preferred but it seems a bit of hastle having to change it every time i'm in a 4G area.
And I wouldn't suggest it either. Putting the phone into LTE Only is pointless (due to lack of voice) and the only reason I did it was to test LTE in London last week.
All I'm saying is that you may actually be in a 4G area but where 3G is the preferred signal.
very impressed with that, my own area where i leave dont get 4g, on coverage says very good service from march so hoping soon.
Thanks
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Oh my god..