Yeah, the ending had me a bit watery eyed. it was such an emotive story. Even the (slightly rubbish) Alien thing dying - blind, alone and so very afraid - was heart wrenching for me.
What was to cry about, a good episode, but no tear jerker!
Some people really need to get a grip!
What people find moving is subjective. Worrying for the country because some people had a different reaction to a scene in Doctor Who is taking things overboard, I think.
i watch with my son [10] so i choke it in
he has aspergers so feels little emotion
i ask him "how do you feel"
he says "alright, why havent we seen more of the monster"
nuff said
I don't think Aspergers has anything to do with that:D! How many ten year old boys do you know who would be more interested in the tearjerker than the monster?
And this is a bit pedantic so sorry- but it isn't that people with Aspergers don't feel emotion, we just don't show it as well. I mean, I know I do care about family/friends, I'll worry about them when things go wrong or miss them if I haven't seen them for ages, but I can't remember the last time I said 'I love you' or anything like that to somebody's face. I find it really awkward to get those sort of words out.:o
In all fairness you will get the occasional uber-logical Spock, just as you'll get the occasional Julian Claryesque gay man, but most people aren't like that.
I didn't cry, but only because I don't tend to cry at fiction- I didn't even manage it with Barefoot Gen. But it was definitely a really nice scene, and fully deserving to be called a Tearjerker.
I don't even watch Doctor Who, but I caught the end of this and it really got to me. As a lifelong admirer of van Gogh, and often lamenting the tragedy that he was never appreciated in his lifetime, the thought of him seeing how admired he truly is really did make me slightly emotional! :P
On a seperate note, this really reminded me of Crows, one of the short films in the magnificent Dreams, one of the last works of Akira Kurosawa. It revolves around an art student in Japan who falls into van Gogh's work and meets the man himself (played by Martin Scorsese, no less!).
I don't think Aspergers has anything to do with that:D! How many ten year old boys do you know who would be more interested in the tearjerker than the monster?
And this is a bit pedantic so sorry- but it isn't that people with Aspergers don't feel emotion, we just don't show it as well. .
it is off topic, but, the psycologist that he has, has said that i havent accepted the aspergers yet.
he could be right but, i know he is diagnosed, but how do you know if you have accepted it or not?
I don't even watch Doctor Who, but I caught the end of this and it really got to me. As a lifelong admirer of van Gogh, and often lamenting the tragedy that he was never appreciated in his lifetime, the thought of him seeing how admired he truly is really did make me slightly emotional! :P
Along with Blink, Human nature and Family of Blood this is one of the episodes that I would use to try to explain to a non Dr Who fan what I see in the show.
I didn't really cry at all really, I got a tear in my eye when Van Gogh started to cry, but not enough for it to fall down my cheek....I think the length of the ending took away the emotions a bit for me...maybe part of it was because i knew what was happening as a few of the reviews were kind enough to give a bit too much detail away....plus that song was quite distracting.....
Along with Blink, Human nature and Family of Blood this is one of the episodes that I would use to try to explain to a non Dr Who fan what I see in the show.
I used to watch this with Christopher Ecclestone and the first series with David Tennant, but I'm very odd when it comes to science fiction. I enjoyed the settings, character building and eras shown immensely, but found the fighting and the monsters disappointing. Sadly, they simply don't have enough for anything other than the monsters and battles in just 45 minutes. Told you I'm odd .
On another note, I have Asperger's myself, and DID find what I saw rather emotional, and as I said, am completely unmoved by any "action".
I was very moved when I clicked that they were bringing van Gogh to the gallery. When actor playing van Gogh welled up I nearly welled up too, and kept telling myself to get a grip.:o
it is off topic, but, the psycologist that he has, has said that i havent accepted the aspergers yet.
he could be right but, i know he is diagnosed, but how do you know if you have accepted it or not?
I don't know how you would know- these things are different for everyone. But I will say that chances are you'll have a better idea about how you feel about the situation than the psychologist- or anyone else- will.
So, forgetting the psychologist for a moment- how do you feel right now about his diagnosis?
I didn't cry (I almost never do) but I did find it very emotionally satisfying. Tony Curran was terrific as Vincent, and his reaction on seeing his work being so appreciated over a hundred years on, almost transported with emotion, was just fabulous.
Could have done without the pointless monster and just had a straight historical, almost, but I suppose the viewers now wouldn't see that as proper Dr Who.
have to say I did shed a tear at Tennant's departure but that was probably to do with the large bottle of wine consumed at that time on New Years Day. Had cider tonight, this episode didn't get me going like that! lol!:D
For me this was the most teary moment since Ten wiped Donna's mind. I thought Vincent might break down all together and do something that would prevent the Doctor returning him to his own time.
I didnt cry because I think its diminished the truth and real sadness of Van Gogh's story. I think it was trite to have him "discover" his fame as his not knowing was such a huge part of who he was and what made his art.
I didnt cry because I think its diminished the truth and real sadness of Van Gogh's story. I think it was trite to have him "discover" his fame as his not knowing was such a huge part of who he was and what made his art. /QUOTE]
This is pure speculation. I would venture a guess that his unique way of seeing the world has a lot to do with what makes his art for us today.
I didnt cry because I think its diminished the truth and real sadness of Van Gogh's story. I think it was trite to have him "discover" his fame as his not knowing was such a huge part of who he was and what made his art. /QUOTE]
This is pure speculation. I would venture a guess that his unique way of seeing the world has a lot to do with what makes his art for us today.
yes I do agree but the tale that he could have known his destiny would surely have had an effect on his work
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Best of the best so far!
But only almost, as I'm not a complete wuss.:D
take note I only said 'a tear'. Lol!
What people find moving is subjective. Worrying for the country because some people had a different reaction to a scene in Doctor Who is taking things overboard, I think.
I don't think Aspergers has anything to do with that:D! How many ten year old boys do you know who would be more interested in the tearjerker than the monster?
And this is a bit pedantic so sorry- but it isn't that people with Aspergers don't feel emotion, we just don't show it as well. I mean, I know I do care about family/friends, I'll worry about them when things go wrong or miss them if I haven't seen them for ages, but I can't remember the last time I said 'I love you' or anything like that to somebody's face. I find it really awkward to get those sort of words out.:o
In all fairness you will get the occasional uber-logical Spock, just as you'll get the occasional Julian Claryesque gay man, but most people aren't like that.
I didn't cry, but only because I don't tend to cry at fiction- I didn't even manage it with Barefoot Gen. But it was definitely a really nice scene, and fully deserving to be called a Tearjerker.
On a seperate note, this really reminded me of Crows, one of the short films in the magnificent Dreams, one of the last works of Akira Kurosawa. It revolves around an art student in Japan who falls into van Gogh's work and meets the man himself (played by Martin Scorsese, no less!).
it is off topic, but, the psycologist that he has, has said that i havent accepted the aspergers yet.
he could be right but, i know he is diagnosed, but how do you know if you have accepted it or not?
Along with Blink, Human nature and Family of Blood this is one of the episodes that I would use to try to explain to a non Dr Who fan what I see in the show.
I used to watch this with Christopher Ecclestone and the first series with David Tennant, but I'm very odd when it comes to science fiction. I enjoyed the settings, character building and eras shown immensely, but found the fighting and the monsters disappointing. Sadly, they simply don't have enough for anything other than the monsters and battles in just 45 minutes. Told you I'm odd
On another note, I have Asperger's myself, and DID find what I saw rather emotional, and as I said, am completely unmoved by any "action".
I admit it, I welled up when Vincent cried.
Well Done to all involved.
I don't know how you would know- these things are different for everyone. But I will say that chances are you'll have a better idea about how you feel about the situation than the psychologist- or anyone else- will.
So, forgetting the psychologist for a moment- how do you feel right now about his diagnosis?
Could have done without the pointless monster and just had a straight historical, almost, but I suppose the viewers now wouldn't see that as proper Dr Who.
For me this was the most teary moment since Ten wiped Donna's mind. I thought Vincent might break down all together and do something that would prevent the Doctor returning him to his own time.
The end with Van Gogh in the museum was just beautiful
This episode made up what all other lacked in pure emotion and character development
you do realise this show isn't real life, don't you?:rolleyes:
Not just one of the best Dr Who episodes ever, one of the best tv programmes ever. So moving... very very rarely does a tv programme do that to me...
Full marks to all concerned with the making of last night's Dr Who. They all deserve a pat on the back for creating something a bit special...
I like what you said so much I've just made this my facebook status for today!!
I suspect that my husband filled up too, but he pretended he was sneezing!