Vester Flanagan Was Offended By Simple Everyday Words

BigAndy99BigAndy99 Posts: 3,277
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29th August 2015

Did political correctness and the State's allowance/encouragement of people being "offended" lead to murder?

I think the rules in Ultra Liberal Britain are that if somebody is offended, it must be offensive.

Please discuss.

The New York Post reports that 24-year-old white reporter, who was murdered on live TV along with her cameraman, used the phrases as an intern at *WDBJ TV in Roanoke in 2012, according to an internal complaint filed by Flanagan, who was black.
“One was something about ‘swinging’ by some place; the other was out in the ‘field,’ ” said the January 21 report by assistant news director Greg Baldwin, which refers to Parker as Alison Bailey (her middle name).

Flanagan assumed everything was a jab at his race, even when a manager brought in watermelon for all employees.
“Of course, he thought that was racist. He was like, ‘You’re doing that because of me.’ No, the general manager brought in watermelon for the entire news team. He’s like, ‘Nope, this is out for me. You guys are calling me out because I’m black.’ ”
Flanagan even declared that *7-Eleven was racist because it sold watermelon-flavoured Slurpees.
“It’s not a coincidence, they’re racist,” he allegedly told Mr Fair.


http://www.news.com.au/world/the-innocent-words-that-became-alison-parkers-death-sentence/story-fndir2ev-1227503549750
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  • stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    Sounds like mental illness to me. Still, it's got you an in for using a tragedy to advance a cheap agenda, so it's not all bad, eh?
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    The guy sounds like a total nutjob with a persecution complex, to me.

    I don't think political correctness actually enters the equation.
  • Sport1Sport1 Posts: 8,819
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    BigAndy99 wrote: »
    Did political correctness and the State's allowance/encouragement of people being "offended" lead to murder?

    Political correctness, or anything like it, played no part in this terrible act.

    As you well know.
  • Jasper92Jasper92 Posts: 1,302
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    'Twas a black day in American journalism.
  • JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    stoatie wrote: »
    Sounds like mental illness to me. Still, it's got you an in for using a tragedy to advance a cheap agenda, so it's not all bad, eh?

    Well put ..
  • tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    stoatie wrote: »
    Still, it's got you an in for using a tragedy to advance a cheap agenda, so it's not all bad, eh?
    Just like WSB TV did today when it attempted to link Flanagan, a.k.a Williams to video gamers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hva4EccGWV8
  • silentNatesilentNate Posts: 84,079
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    Just like WSB TV did today when it attempted to link Flanagan, a.k.a Williams to video gamers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hva4EccGWV8

    CSGO made him do it!! :o : rolleyes:

    He had mental health issues fo' sure :(
  • nomad2kingnomad2king Posts: 8,415
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    Sport1 wrote: »
    Political correctness, or anything like it, played no part in this terrible act.

    As you well know.
    It was an extension of the PC mantra, Without the PC goings on, he wouldn't have added his own tenuous links to the tenuous links that the PC brigade themselves come up with.
  • ArcanaArcana Posts: 37,521
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    Judging by that report, Flanagan was the racist.

    It won't be labelled a racist murder though.
  • jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,566
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    nomad2king wrote: »
    It was an extension of the PC mantra, Without the PC goings on, he wouldn't have added his own tenuous links to the tenuous links that the PC brigade themselves come up with.

    Supposed "PC" is not the problem here. And there's no such thing as the "PC brigade".
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    Watermelon flavour? Is that not a contradiction in terms anyway?
  • nomad2kingnomad2king Posts: 8,415
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    jjwales wrote: »
    Supposed "PC" is not the problem here. And there's no such thing as the "PC brigade".
    Are you really saying that there is no set of people looking for tenuous links with terms that have been used for centuries?
  • jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,566
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    nomad2king wrote: »
    Are you really saying that there is no set of people looking for tenuous links with terms that have been used for centuries?

    Yes I am. Though I don't see what this has to do with the horrible murder in the US.
  • stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    nomad2king wrote: »
    It was an extension of the PC mantra, Without the PC goings on, he wouldn't have added his own tenuous links to the tenuous links that the PC brigade themselves come up with.

    And if racism wasn't a thing he wouldn't have had it to use as an excuse. Neither of which lines of inquiry are particularly fruitful.
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    nomad2king wrote: »
    Are you really saying that there is no set of people looking for tenuous links with terms that have been used for centuries?

    I think it's the use of the word "brigade" that isn't liked. However, it is recognised by the free dictionary as being a valid term of reference - link
    2. group, party, body, band, camp, squad, organization, crew, bunch (informal) the healthy-eating brigade

    The PC brigade are those individuals who are extremely concerned with semantics in the field of dealing with sensitive societal issues.
  • ChristopherJChristopherJ Posts: 976
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    BigAndy99 wrote: »
    Did political correctness and the State's allowance/encouragement of people being "offended" lead to murder?

    It was more the indirect influence of bankers' bonuses and fracking.
  • claire2281claire2281 Posts: 17,283
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    BigAndy99 wrote: »
    Flanagan even declared that *7-Eleven was racist because it sold watermelon-flavoured Slurpees.

    Yeah he didn't have mental health issues at all...

    Essentially the OP's argument is the same as people who blame video games for violence.
  • jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,566
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    blueblade wrote: »
    I think it's the use of the word "brigade" that isn't liked.
    It's the whole phrase. Conveys little actual meaning, and is generally used as a kneejerk reaction to something vaguely liberal that the user doesn't like.
  • BigAndy99BigAndy99 Posts: 3,277
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    Arcana wrote: »
    Judging by that report, Flanagan was the racist.

    It won't be labelled a racist murder though.

    Bang on the money Arcana!
  • tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    BigAndy99 wrote: »
    29th August 2015

    Did political correctness and the State's allowance/encouragement of people being "offended" lead to murder?

    I think the rules in Ultra Liberal Britain are that if somebody is offended, it must be offensive.

    Please discuss.

    The New York Post reports that 24-year-old white reporter, who was murdered on live TV along with her cameraman, used the phrases as an intern at *WDBJ TV in Roanoke in 2012, according to an internal complaint filed by Flanagan, who was black.
    “One was something about ‘swinging’ by some place; the other was out in the ‘field,’ ” said the January 21 report by assistant news director Greg Baldwin, which refers to Parker as Alison Bailey (her middle name).

    Flanagan assumed everything was a jab at his race, even when a manager brought in watermelon for all employees.
    “Of course, he thought that was racist. He was like, ‘You’re doing that because of me.’ No, the general manager brought in watermelon for the entire news team. He’s like, ‘Nope, this is out for me. You guys are calling me out because I’m black.’ ”
    Flanagan even declared that *7-Eleven was racist because it sold watermelon-flavoured Slurpees.
    “It’s not a coincidence, they’re racist,” he allegedly told Mr Fair.


    http://www.news.com.au/world/the-innocent-words-that-became-alison-parkers-death-sentence/story-fndir2ev-1227503549750

    He clearly had mental illness of a paranoid nature. Its nothing to do with being 'PC'
  • BigAndy99BigAndy99 Posts: 3,277
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    tiacat wrote: »
    He clearly had mental illness of a paranoid nature. Its nothing to do with being 'PC'

    Incorrect.
  • jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,566
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    BigAndy99 wrote: »
    Incorrect.

    Why is it incorrect?
  • 2+2=52+2=5 Posts: 24,264
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    Mental illness is not something to make a joke of or take lightly.

    Certainly not one to hide beneath the ugly veneer of invalid claims about racism where there wasn't any intended.

    I think the man had some sort of genuine problem if he was perceiving things that nobody else was.
  • BigAndy99BigAndy99 Posts: 3,277
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    jjwales wrote: »
    Why is it incorrect?


    He believed that he had a right to be offended by perfectly innocent words/terms - and quite right he is too - there are many many employers who would side with such utter rubbish.

    For a generation the West has been brought up on a daily dose of "if you hear or see anything, even if it isn't aimed at you, you have the divine right to complain and be heard".

    Was the same in the army, same in the very large organisations i've worked in since i left.

    He did this and failed.

    The result of that meant he killed 2 innocent people.
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    He sounds like he was mentally ill. It's not out of the realms of possibility that the concepts of racism and political correctness both fed into his paranoia that he was being bullied, though.
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