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    PDS1985PDS1985 Posts: 29,021
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    Oh well Somerset vs. Middlesex ended in a draw.

    Our last County Championship match is against Yorkshire at Headingley.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    davethecue wrote: »
    Andrew Gale has been charged with committing Racist Abuse following his misbehaviour during the Roses clash


    Yorkshire's captain Andrew Gale has become the first county cricketer to be accused of a racism offence after he was charged on Wednesday by the ECB for a confrontation with Ashwell Prince in the Roses match which included a rejoinder to return to his own country, followed by a disparaging use of the term "Kolpak".

    Gale had become increasingly incensed at OId Trafford by Prince's sledging and timewasting as Yorkshire pushed for victory. As tempers flared, Prince told Gale to get back to his fielding position, Gale's rejoinder to Prince was that he should get back to his own country and included a reference to Prince's Kolpak status. There was a dose of bad language on both sides.
    Yorkshire will contend that there is no country, nor racial origin for Kolpaks - it is simply a descriptive term for those from many countries who are playing in county cricket because of reciprocal EU trade agreements.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2014/content/current/story/781849.html

    it does seem odd to charge someone with racist behaviour for using the term Kolpak

    They should have let them go behind the Pavillion or whatever to sort this out.

    Gale was banned for 2 days before being found guilty. A strange system.
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    dtcdtcdtcdtcdtcdtc Posts: 16,992
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    The weather doesn't look promising for the Showpiece Cup final today at Lords

    Used to be a must watch day's cricket in days gone by but it seems to have lost it's magic with all the live sport on TV nowadays
    Not even sure when the last time was when it was sold out at the venue.
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    davethecuedavethecue Posts: 23,180
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    Durham have won the toss and put Warwicks in

    Wonder if it's win the toss , win the match conditions ?
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,127
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    dtcdtcdtc wrote: »
    The weather doesn't look promising for the Showpiece Cup final today at Lords

    Used to be a must watch day's cricket in days gone by but it seems to have lost it's magic with all the live sport on TV nowadays
    Not even sure when the last time was when it was sold out at the venue.

    I noticed it on TV but didn't 'ring' it in the Radio Times so I wasn't going to bother with it..........but now that I've seen this I'll put TMS on for some cricket chat !
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    davethecuedavethecue Posts: 23,180
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    Warwickshire struggling at 68/5 in 22 overs with Chopra holding the innings together

    Very poor crowd. Lords looks about half full
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    Fiddly_FeltzFiddly_Feltz Posts: 645
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    The scheduling ruins this game. It's all about the toss of a coin and nothing else. Play it in August!
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    BosoxBosox Posts: 14,184
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    The scheduling ruins this game. It's all about the toss of a coin and nothing else. Play it in August!

    Play the final before the QFs and SFs? Interesting thought. :D
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    Fiddly_FeltzFiddly_Feltz Posts: 645
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    Bosox wrote: »
    Play the final before the QFs and SFs? Interesting thought. :D

    Chortle ;-)
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    Jason CJason C Posts: 31,336
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    Sad indictment of the county game that an occasion which never failed to produce a full house at Lords in the past is now being played out to thousands of empty seats.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    It is not the game itself, it is the near total lack of marketing.
    I found time to listen of 5 xtra, thankfully the commentary livened up when people like Simon Mann got going.

    I'll miss the ,hopefuly winning, Durham innings but I'm not sure how much commentary soul we would have got anyway.
    With the TMS we get a mixed bag to mix it up, but a rather far too morose feel belongs to the county 5 Xtra commentary team.
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    Jason CJason C Posts: 31,336
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    alanwarwic wrote: »
    It is not the game itself, it is the near total lack of marketing.

    Ticket prices were unappealing too - £40 and £50.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    Jason C wrote: »
    Ticket prices were unappealing too - £40 and £50.
    Not really that much for what is a big final.

    In the old days everyone turned up to watch and talk about the likes of Botham, but now near no one has seen Stokes heroics on TV. And occasional TV highlights of England add very little.

    I wonder where it would all be if it and UK T20 was all on Channel 4 live early evening.
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    BosoxBosox Posts: 14,184
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    alanwarwic wrote: »
    Not really that much for what is a big final.

    People are voting with their feet. The low attendances year after year are evidence that the prices are too high.
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    jake1981jake1981 Posts: 5,716
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    Bosox wrote: »
    People are voting with their feet. The low attendances year after year are evidence that the prices are too high.

    I'd agree with this especially so late in the summer with the weather likely to be a factor.

    If it was my team, I'd be there with a few mates as well but planning to go in advance as a neutral is too tricky
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    BosoxBosox Posts: 14,184
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    Looks like this could be close. Durham 86-5 needing 80 more to win.
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    Chris1964Chris1964 Posts: 19,818
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    alanwarwic wrote: »
    Not really that much for what is a big final.

    In the old days everyone turned up to watch and talk about the likes of Botham, but now near no one has seen Stokes heroics on TV. And occasional TV highlights of England add very little.

    I wonder where it would all be if it and UK T20 was all on Channel 4 live early evening.

    Well I was paying around £50 for the five finals I went to in the early nineties.The ground was packed back then.

    Its not just the price. The ECB has mucked around with the concept of the one day Lords final that its lost every ounce of meaning and tradition built up over 40 odd years. The Gilette/Nat West/B&H actually had real relevence to the extent they were proper events. This year, coming off the back of a sequence of 40 over thrash outs, looks particularly lost. 20/20 clearly has had an effect, but I still maintain this should be Crickets big day out- but it looks subdued and rather sad on the tv today.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    It has been a very good game. You don't always need 500/600 runs.
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    davethecuedavethecue Posts: 23,180
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    Well done Durham

    Good performance from Ben Stokes in guiding them home.

    Hopefully he will use this experience in Australia during the winter......
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    jake1981jake1981 Posts: 5,716
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    Well done Durham. Nice way for Gareth Breese to finish his county career
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    Darren LethemDarren Lethem Posts: 61,700
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    I do find Ben Stokes a bit of a surly character
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    Chris1964Chris1964 Posts: 19,818
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    Well done Durham. My team Warwicks clearly did not get enough on the board-very difficult to defend that sort of total these days. Brave stab and Patel was brilliant but all to no avail.

    Strange atmosphere, the floodlights with the gloom in the distance made it look like the end of the world cometh. Still I guess they might not have played otherwise.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    I do find Ben Stokes a bit of a surly character

    I don't think he enjoys being interviewed.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    Warwickshire made a very good fight of it in the end.

    It is no great surprise that Collingwood won the 'most valuable player of tournament', 2 ahead of the more impacting Ben Stokes. I think Stoneman being captain really helped get Colly bowling at his one day nest again.
    http://www.ecb.co.uk/stats/mvps/latest

    Its worth noting that when Collingwood was culled from the England setup, the wheeze was to install Cook and Broad as 'new era captains'.
    Since then Broad has hardy played a T20 and Cook has only rarely played a captains innings, which you really need to being a batting specialist.

    It looks more stark when Crocinfo puts it in their match report
    "The Royal London Cup may come to be the proving ground for a generation of England players capable of winning the World Cup""
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2014/content/story/782509.html
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    davethecuedavethecue Posts: 23,180
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    The plot thickens..

    Usman Khawaja has been named as the driving force behind the official complaint to the ECB that sees Andrew Gale facing formal allegations of racial abuse which, if he is found guilty, will bring the risk of a record ban.

    Although exact details of Khawaja's involvement have not been made public, the Daily Mail has alleged that Khawaja was "the leading figure in taking the case further than the Level 2 charge originally brought by the umpires for dissent".

    Widespread derision that the term "Kolpak" could be termed racist has caused the ECB to adjust its ground and privately to brief that it is effectively concentrating attention on only half the sentence - to whit, whether Gale's rejoinder to "f*** off back to your own country" can be construed as racist under the Race Relations Act and Equality Act or whether it is just another example of the abuse with a dollop of knee-jerk xenophobia thrown in, which Yorkshire insist is endemic in the game.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2014/content/current/story/782875.html
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