My uncle was saying this earlier. I do not have a much of an opinion on this but he believes cyclists should not be on public road at least not in cites especially as they do not have official training and insurance.
Granted that cyclists don't have to have insurance, but most cyclists also have a driving license, so they do know their stuff on the roads. And by and large, road traffic misdemeanors are by drivers - speeding, parking, bus lane and of course, crashes & pile-ups.
Fair point. In London you expect taxis, Lorries, vans etc. to be a problem. But to be honest, it was everyday motorists that were the real issue. For some reason some felt like the cyclists had absolutely no right to be there and drove accordingly.
This is probably the real issue. In Copenhagen particularly more people ride bikes than drive cars. The system works really well.
A recent report said that far more people get killed or injured walking than from cycling or driving. The figures were shocking as to the number of deaths and injuries suffered by people walking on our streets caused by cyclists and drivers
There needs to more protection for pedestrians and as a start cyclists should not be able to use pavements. If you are going to cycle use the lanes or roads - pavements are for walking!
Sadly the motorists and now the cyclists have powerful support groups and there is nobody to represent the interest of walkers
Granted this is a bait thread but I think there is no place for a pedal cyclist on a national speed limit fast duel carriageway like the A40 which is pretty much a motorway standard road. The slip roads on these are particularly dangerous.
A recent report said that far more people get killed or injured walking than from cycling or driving. The figures were shocking as to the number of deaths and injuries suffered by people walking on our streets caused by cyclists and drivers
There needs to more protection for pedestrians and as a start cyclists should not be able to use pavements. If you are going to cycle use the lanes or roads - pavements are for walking!
Sadly the motorists and now the cyclists have powerful support groups and there is nobody to represent the interest of walkers
One of the main reasons for the increase in pedestrian deaths is the increased use of people listing to music on in ear earphones so they can't hear the traffic for one thing and seem to be lost in the music so just don't pay enough attention when crossing the road.
Commuting through town you see people crossing the road all the time without even paying any attention whatsoever, especially the students in my area.
If your 'dad' is as mentally unhinged as you're claiming perhaps he shouldn't be on the road?
He doesn't drive thankfully. Through it means his abuse can be heard by bus passengers sometimes. Once he was swearing and ranting on a packed bus with many kids on board.
Is there any way that having mirrors fitted to bikes is feasible
Seems strange that how important mirrors are to car drivers , that they are not thought important to cyclists
Training on how to navigate roundabouts would be helpful too
Mirrors would be little use, as they do not provide sufficient coverage behind. There is nothing dangerous about a quick look over the shoulder, especially as it gives anyone following another indication of what the cyclist might do. Motorcyclists despite having mirrors always do a life-saving check over the shoulder when turning right, given the number of drivers who overtake someone attempting a right turn.
I agree that better advice (perhaps road markings?) about certain roundabouts and junctions would be useful. The problem is where markings are in place, they often make it more dangerous - one near us has a cycle path on the perimeter of the roundabout meaning cyclists wanting to turn right have to cross two sets of busy roads.
I make faces at cyclists (childish but I don't care) as I pass them coz they pee me off so much. Wobbling about everywhere, wearing their ridiculous lycra outfits and thinking they own the road.>:(
My uncle was saying this earlier. I do not have a much of an opinion on this but he believes cyclists should not be on public road at least not in cites especially as they do not have official training and insurance.
Of course they shouldn't.
However they should show some consideration towards other types of road user. Too many don't.
My uncle was saying this earlier. I do not have a much of an opinion on this but he believes cyclists should not be on public road at least not in cites especially as they do not have official training and insurance.
He clearly hasn't thought through of how much more congested the roads would be if some of those cyclists used their cars instead.
Imagine if someone proposed a car that could only do 15mph and is likely to seriously harm or kill the driver in even the smallest of accidents.
The simple fact is that cyclists are unable to keep up with traffic so shouldn't be on the road. Doesn't the highway code state that every driver MUST drive at an appropriate speed?
Imagine if someone proposed a car that could only do 15mph and is likely to seriously harm or kill the driver in even the smallest of accidents.
The simple fact is that cyclists are unable to keep up with traffic so shouldn't be on the road. Doesn't the highway code state that every driver MUST drive at an appropriate speed?
Are you trying to tell us that cyclists drive bicycles?
I think lorries and trucks should be restricted to certain main roads without speed humps. I also think that some research should be done on whether lorry journeys through the capital are strictly necessary and whether train freight could take more of the load.
My uncle was saying this earlier. I do not have a much of an opinion on this but he believes cyclists should not be on public road at least not in cites especially as they do not have official training and insurance.
What a load of tosh.
Where does your uncle think they're supposed to cycle? On the path for god sake?
There are plenty of drivers that shouldn't be on the road but I'm not calling for them to be banned. People never cease to amaze me with the stupid ideas and suggestions they come up with.
I make faces at cyclists (childish but I don't care) as I pass them coz they pee me off so much. Wobbling about everywhere, wearing their ridiculous lycra outfits and thinking they own the road.>:(
Wobbling about?
Why is lycra ridiculous? Ever tried riding in an overcoat?
The simple fact is that cyclists are unable to keep up with traffic so shouldn't be on the road. Doesn't the highway code state that every driver MUST drive at an appropriate speed?
What are you on about "Unable to keep up".
Cyclists don't need to keep up with cars. They cycle on the left so the cars can overtake them. They don't cycle in the middle of the road holding up traffic.
What are you on about "Unable to keep up".
Cyclists don't need to keep up with cars. They cycle on the left so the cars can overtake them. They don't cycle in the middle of the road holding up traffic.
The simple fact is that cyclists are unable to keep up with traffic so shouldn't be on the road. Doesn't the highway code state that every driver MUST drive at an appropriate speed?
I find it quite odd that people who aren't any good at driving cars nevertheless insist on lecturing about who else ought to be allowed to use the roads.
Imagine if someone proposed a car that could only do 15mph and is likely to seriously harm or kill the driver in even the smallest of accidents.
The simple fact is that cyclists are unable to keep up with traffic so shouldn't be on the road. Doesn't the highway code state that every driver MUST drive at an appropriate speed?
Driver refers to cars/vans/lorries. You don't drive a bicycle!
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Granted that cyclists don't have to have insurance, but most cyclists also have a driving license, so they do know their stuff on the roads. And by and large, road traffic misdemeanors are by drivers - speeding, parking, bus lane and of course, crashes & pile-ups.
But hey, cyclists should not be on public roads?
This is probably the real issue. In Copenhagen particularly more people ride bikes than drive cars. The system works really well.
There needs to more protection for pedestrians and as a start cyclists should not be able to use pavements. If you are going to cycle use the lanes or roads - pavements are for walking!
Sadly the motorists and now the cyclists have powerful support groups and there is nobody to represent the interest of walkers
One of the main reasons for the increase in pedestrian deaths is the increased use of people listing to music on in ear earphones so they can't hear the traffic for one thing and seem to be lost in the music so just don't pay enough attention when crossing the road.
Commuting through town you see people crossing the road all the time without even paying any attention whatsoever, especially the students in my area.
If your 'dad' is as mentally unhinged as you're claiming perhaps he shouldn't be on the road?
Mirrors would be little use, as they do not provide sufficient coverage behind. There is nothing dangerous about a quick look over the shoulder, especially as it gives anyone following another indication of what the cyclist might do. Motorcyclists despite having mirrors always do a life-saving check over the shoulder when turning right, given the number of drivers who overtake someone attempting a right turn.
I agree that better advice (perhaps road markings?) about certain roundabouts and junctions would be useful. The problem is where markings are in place, they often make it more dangerous - one near us has a cycle path on the perimeter of the roundabout meaning cyclists wanting to turn right have to cross two sets of busy roads.
Of course they shouldn't.
However they should show some consideration towards other types of road user. Too many don't.
He clearly hasn't thought through of how much more congested the roads would be if some of those cyclists used their cars instead.
The simple fact is that cyclists are unable to keep up with traffic so shouldn't be on the road. Doesn't the highway code state that every driver MUST drive at an appropriate speed?
Are you trying to tell us that cyclists drive bicycles?
They would need equal representation in that case.
Pedestrians have pavement.
Vehicles have the roads.
Cyclists need their own cycle highways, crafted for them alone.
I think pavements and roads should all be divided up and a generous proportion given to cycle highways.
Any pedestrian loitering on it - or car parked on - could be fined by area occupied or time loitered on.
That would be fair I suppose.
Where does your uncle think they're supposed to cycle? On the path for god sake?
There are plenty of drivers that shouldn't be on the road but I'm not calling for them to be banned. People never cease to amaze me with the stupid ideas and suggestions they come up with.
No worth a response to that comment
Next.
Wobbling about?
Why is lycra ridiculous? Ever tried riding in an overcoat?
Cyclists don't need to keep up with cars. They cycle on the left so the cars can overtake them. They don't cycle in the middle of the road holding up traffic.
http://www.cyclescheme.co.uk/community/how-to/road-positioning
Driver refers to cars/vans/lorries. You don't drive a bicycle!